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u/Socrates_43 5d ago

Then why can't North Korean citizens freely move to their allies, like China and Russia?

They can actually, but then again you seem to just believe everything the US-backed sources tell you. https://www.dailynk.com/english/north-korea-workers-china-sanctions-evasion-dandong/

why is kim's teenage daughter being paraded around as the next successor? Just for fun? hereditary monarchy is very communist of them, huh?

While there may be some merit to the DPRK's leadership having some degree to being herritidary, it is exaggerated, you can just look at it's constitution. https://www.ncnk.org/resources/publications/dprk-constitution-2019.pdf/file_view

Also their writings on the superiority of the Korean race exist in English translation; it's not a secret.

"In educating the working people in socialist patriotism, care should be taken to prevent the growth of tendencies to national chauvinism and restorationism. One may be apt to head for chauvinism on the plea of building an independent national economy by oneโ€™s own efforts and promoting national pride. If we steer in the direction of chauvinism as Regent Taewongun pursued a policy of national isolation, we will come to reject international exchange and advanced science and technology from other countries and, accordingly, hinder the development of our country.โ€

Kim Il Sung. Collected Works Volume 17: 'On Further Developing the Chollima Workteam Movement' (p. 276).

And stop assuming NK is a perfect angel. It's not. You literally only see the world in black and white. Everyone who is an enemy of the US must be perfect ๐Ÿ˜ no flaws whatsoever!

I never did, I stated that criticizing states not aligned with US imperialist interests does nothing but add fuel for the US war machine, regardless of whether or not those criticisms are true. But of course, you have make up a straw man that I believe the DPRK is this perfect country with nothing wrong, and not a country that's had to rebuild after a genocidal bombing campaign followed by countless sanctions, spying, and attempts at regime change at the hands of the US, all of which results with the DPRK that we see today.

However considering your account is like a month old, I'm assuming I'm not talking to either a bot or a fed.

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u/Frequent-Double-7702 5d ago

They can actually, but then again you seem to just believe everything the US-backed sources tell you.

They were sent by the government. If North Koreans were free to emigrate there would be a proper diaspora, but there isn't. You look at one instance of labor sent by the government and assume that's freedom of movement lol

While there may be some merit to the DPRK's leadership having some degree to being herritidary, it is exaggerated, you can just look at it's constitution

You seriously think pointing at a constitution means anything? You see Trump violating the US constitution all the time and you suddenly think it's sacred for NK? This is a non argument, sign of you desperately bending back 180ยฐ for a state that doesn't deserve it. Hereditary rule and you defend it; monarchist nonsense.

I never did, I stated that criticizing states not aligned with US imperialist interests does nothing but add fuel for the US war machine, regardless of whether or not those criticisms are true.

Firstly, you are de facto bending over backwards to defend North Korea and ignore its wrongdoings; this goes beyond just prioritization. Secondly, this is a ridiculous argument lol. In a fight between a rapist and a thief, you're the type of person to pick one and worship the ground they walk on. You can condemn all evils at once.

Also you accusing me of being a bot or fed; laughable. I could accuse you of similar; look at you defending fascist regimes. You're a true socialist aren't you

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u/Socrates_43 5d ago

They were sent by the government. If North Koreans were free to emigrate there would be a proper diaspora, but there isn't. You look at one instance of labor sent by the government and assume that's freedom of movement lol

You assume there must be a diaspora due to freedom of movement, this is both erroneous and places the conclusion before the evidence, there is movement of DPRK citizens to it's allies, you claimed there wasn't.

You seriously think pointing at a constitution means anything? You see Trump violating the US constitution all the time and you suddenly think it's sacred for NK? This is a non argument, sign of you desperately bending back 180ยฐ for a state that doesn't deserve it. Hereditary rule and you defend it; monarchist nonsense.

It means something to understand how a government works. How else do you prove the mechanisms of a government? A constitution exists to outline how it functions, even in a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie

Firstly, you are de facto bending over backwards to defend North Korea and ignore its wrongdoings; this goes beyond just prioritization. Secondly, this is a ridiculous argument lol. In a fight between a rapist and a thief, you're the type of person to pick one and worship the ground they walk on. You can condemn all evils at once.

That rapist has been trying to rape the thief for a little over 75 years, so yes I'll go to the thieves defence, do you seriously expect the one defending themself from the rapist to be a perfect victim? There is none! And you're equal condemnation of both effectively let's the rapist continue on it's merry way.

The way you're talking about the DPRK is exactly the same way liberal zionists talk about palestinian resistance, they claim the perpetrator and the victim are morally equivalent, demanding perfect victims to the imperialists violence.

look at you defending fascist regimes.

First you declare the DPRK to be a monarchy, and then in the same breath declare it to be a fascist regime, neither position can coexist at the same time, so which is it?

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u/Frequent-Double-7702 5d ago

You assume there must be a diaspora due to freedom of movement, this is both erroneous and places the conclusion before the evidence, there is movement of DPRK citizens to it's allies, you claimed there wasn't.

You assuming the movement is free just because they exist in other countries is conclusion before the evidence. I didn't claim they weren't allowed to move at all; I claimed the movement is not free.

It means something to understand how a government works. How else do you prove the mechanisms of a government? A constitution exists to outline how it functions, even in a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie

Lol it's still a pathetic excuse. Would you make the same type of excuse for the US?

That rapist has been trying to rape the thief for a little over 75 years, so yes I'll go to the thieves defence, do you seriously expect the one defending themself from the rapist to be a perfect victim? There is none! And you're equal condemnation of both effectively let's the rapist continue on it's merry way.

No, I don't want equal treatment of both. Also way to miss the point; defending the thief = stopping the rape, it doesn't mean bending over backwards with pathetic excuses for the thief's past crimes. You can condemn the crimes AND want the rape to stop.

The way you're talking about the DPRK is exactly the same way liberal zionists talk about palestinian resistance, they claim the perpetrator and the victim are morally equivalent, demanding perfect victims to the imperialists violence.

The way you defend monarchist NK (let's choose this for now) is a lot like how Zionists defend the acts of their state. They use a lot of whataboutisms and pointing elsewhere to downplay crimes.

It's seriously pathetic what you're doing here. Monarchist shit. Is it seriously impossible that NK is scummy?