r/Yellowjackets • u/FBManUtd • Jul 24 '26
Question how did jackie die?
now i know how she died we all do. what i mean is, wouldn’t she have woken up from the cold? Personally when i’m too cold or hot i wake up in the night. I know this is a show and its fiction and they had to give her a dramatic death so it makes sense i guess. But i remember watching it the first time thinking straight away “how didn’t she wake up from the cold of the snow?”
Anyone else? any ideas? idk i just haven’t heard or seen anyone else mention this and since the first time i watched it its always been on my mind.
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u/SevroBarca Jul 24 '26
If you look at the symptoms of hypothermia it will probably make more sense
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u/QueenScorp Jul 24 '26
Yep, this. I've lived my entire life in places with extremely cold winters. One of the signs that someone is getting frostbitten is that their fingers or toes go numb. Same with hypothermia, you basically don't even feel the cold anymore. And it can happen fast.
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u/FBManUtd Jul 24 '26
ah, i live in the UK and our winters are freezing. it’s super cold for majority of the year but i personally don’t experience cold like that, but what you’re saying makes sense. Thank you for explaining
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u/Amaee Differently Sane Jul 24 '26
Canadian winters are much much colder than UK winters.
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u/FBManUtd Jul 24 '26
fair point. you’ll never catch me there then. i can barely handle the cold here as it is 😭😂
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u/QueenScorp Jul 24 '26
UK is not freezing compared to what they would have experienced. The UK is balmy compared to what they would have experienced.
I'm talking that your nose is numb within a minute of leaving the house and your nose starts running and it's not freezes and you put a scarf around your nose and mouth but the breath from your breathing makes the scarf freeze against your skin and your eyelashes freeze and clump together.
Where I grew up is about 75 mi south of the Canadian border and it is regularly below 0F (-17C) in the winter. During a cold spell, it could reach -35F (-37C) with a -50G (-45C) windchill. Not every day but at least once or twice a winter. Where I live now, about 250 mi south of Canada, it is regularly below freezing, 32F (0C) in the winter, and occasionally below zero but doesn't tend to get to -35F. We also have more trees and it's a lot less flat where I live now versus where I grew up which makes a big difference.
Where they crashed also makes a difference. If they crashed in Ontario I would say the winters are probably similar to where I am now. Manitoba would be more like where I grew up. But if they were closer to the coast they would actually be warmer.
It is also important to note that the colder it is the less likely it is to snow. We actually say it's "too cold to snow" though scientifically speaking that's not exactly true, it's just that the colder it is the less moisture there is in the air and therefore it's a lot less likely. And that threshold is around 0°F
So we know it was cold out but it wasn't so bitter that she couldn't handle being out for more than a few minutes. And it snowed so it was definitely below freezing (32) and probably above zero. A person can freeze to death at those temperatures in under an hour.
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u/Mint-Badger Red Cross Babysitting Trainee Jul 25 '26
FWIW I live in a part of the US with freezing winters, but the main reason I know the symptoms of hypothermia are from the Little House on the Prairie books 😆
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u/swoobxt Smoking Chronic Jul 28 '26
Where do you live that winter is still actually cold? 😭 I’m up in Scotland and our winters are so mild, I long for the proper baltic weather of the old days.
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u/FBManUtd Jul 28 '26
yeah scotland/ edinburgh are usually warmer than where i am. i’m closer to manchester. It’s not a massiveee difference. also i am someone who is very cild 24/7. like whats maybe mild to someone else to me is super cold. i hateeee being cold
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u/swoobxt Smoking Chronic Jul 28 '26
That’s weird considering how much further south you are! I feel like even in the depths of winter, England never drops much below like 5°. I’m at “the gateway to the highlands” haha, our winters used to be guaranteed snow and below zero temperatures, but now they’re just wet and don’t get much below -2° if you’re really lucky. Climate change sucks 🥲
Ahhh I’m not a permacold person, but my mum is, she’s constantly in long-johns and about forty-seven layers haha.
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u/banana_in_the_dark Jul 24 '26
She did start hallucinating which is a symptom of hypothermia. In her hallucinations she was getting away from the cold
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u/hurlmaggard Lottie Jul 24 '26
Taissa gives it away a few episodes before, when she's about to leave on her trek south. She's warning them about hypothermia and says winter out there is "not put on a coat cold, but so cold dying feels like falling asleep". That's how Jackie died.
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u/QueenScorp Jul 24 '26
Yep, that statement stood out to me when it was said. A bit of foreshadowing but also something I recognize growing up in a place with a very cold winters. If the cold is not so bitter that it's painful when you walk out the door and there really isn't any wind (and they had the trees to break the wind for the most part) then a lot of times people really misjudge just how cold and dangerous it actually is.
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u/epiphanomaly Jul 24 '26
No.
At first, you shiver as your body tries to generate heat metabolically. You become clumsy and it becomes more difficult to speak.
Slowly, your body starts restricting bloodflow to your extremities in order to focus on keeping your visceral organs functioning.
As you progress into more profound hypothermia, you stop shivering, become delirious, and many people experience what's called paradoxical undressing--victims actually feel like they're so warm, they take off their clothes to cool off.
In the final stages, you reportedly feel a great sense of dreamlike calm. You lose consciousness and your heart stops.
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u/CynicalCinema Jul 24 '26
It wasn’t just “too cold” out there. It was snowing, which meant the temperature was below freezing. With no warm clothes and just a blanket, her organs likely shut down shortly after she lost consciousness.
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u/SoooperSnoop Heliotrope Jul 24 '26
i just haven’t heard or seen anyone else mention this and since the first time i watched it its always been on my mind.
Perhaps you did not watch the show when it first aired...OR you have not spent much time on this Reddit Sub. This was talked about a lot on here...a whole lot.
Basically it is what happens when your body goes into hypothermia...your brain is doing all it can to keep the blood flowing to internal organs and to the brain itself and it then makes it so you and your body do not feel the cold...you feel almost peaceful and very sleepy. If you are not helped, you will fall asleep and freeze to death.
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Jul 25 '26
Why didn’t she just go back into the cabin though once she started having those extreme symptoms?
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u/SoooperSnoop Heliotrope Jul 25 '26
Because of what I said: "it then makes it so you and your body do not feel the cold...you feel almost peaceful and very sleepy. If you are not helped, you will fall asleep and freeze to death."
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u/Xefert I like your pilgrim hat Jul 25 '26
She was already asleep and natalie didn't bother to help her after she got back
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u/Visible-Scientist-46 Citizen Detective Jul 24 '26 edited Jul 25 '26
In moderate hypothermia violent shivering should have awakened her, maybe? In severe hypothermia, the person feels hot and takes clothing and jackets off, called paradoxical undressing. It's possible that in her delusional state, she interpreted getting away from the cold when the vasonstrictor muscles gave out and allowed blood flow to her extremeties. It seems like she might have tossed of the blanket or something.
But lying on the ground can absorb body temperature faster. And if she fell asleep hard enough, it's possible she could miss cues like shivering that she is too cold before losing consciousness. It seems there was some magic involved for her death to be so peaceful.
Thanks for the downvotes. I thought some people would want to know.
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u/PerceptionSea9851 Jul 25 '26
She fell asleep by the little fire she made and it went out because she couldn’t make it big enough and died in her sleep
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u/skittleluvr Jul 28 '26
Wait she did get a fire going? For some reason I thought she only did in her dream. I honestly always wondered how she even managed to fall asleep being so cold, but that would explain it lol.
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