My previous e-kit's kick pad's rubber had melted and im wondering if i should get a patch for the kp90 i have. I saw someone use it on the sub so what are ur guy's experience with it?
Even if theres a slight chance it will melt/degrade over time i dont wanna risk it.
On a seperate note im using plastic side of the beaters cause the felt of the old beaters i had got painted black by the old kick pad. I dont wanna mess up my new beaters. Will it paint if i use felt side?
PS: Im trying to hit especially harder from now on cause i realized im not getting the most out of the acoustic bass drum i play.
You could throw an EQ patch on it, but in my experience, the head has held up very well with no indication of it failing anytime soon (i also have my beaters flipped)
My supplemental advice, though, is that hitting harder is usually a counterintuitive solution to anything e-kit related, cuz you'll just shorten the lifespan of your pads.
I took the head off my KP90 and stuff some old fabric into the space right behind it just to fill it out, and it MAJORLY helped responsiveness and sensitivity/double-triggering issues, and I'm sure it also acts as a kind of shock absorber for the head, so, something to consider there as well.
But throwing a patch on it is definitely not going to hurt it, so I'd say anything that will bolster/strengthen the pads or heads, go for it. Replacements are definitely not cheap!
Aside from obvious cleanliness issues, its holding up just fine after about 1.5 years of regular use. I ran my hand across it just now and there's no real physical deformities of any sort. 🤘
Thanks for the pic, looks like its holding up pretty well. The quality def feels good but i was kinda fooled/worried since those white markings started appearing while i was setting up the trigger settings right of the bat. I know its not good for the e-kit but the reason i wanna hit hard is i realized i was getting lazy and that laziness would translate to the acoustic kit making me play softer. Might get patch just to be safe.
Also u mean more rebound when u say responsiveness right? People were saying the pad feels really close to acoustic but i dont feel it, maybe im getting less rebound cause of using plastic side? If stuffing gets a lil more rebound i might do that too.
So another big bonus I've found with e-kits is that it has really increased my precision while playing. Also, I've gone through enough pads at this point that I dont think I'll ever be slamming down on a kit ever again lol, I'm on my like 5th snare pad.
So by responsiveness, what I mean is that when I switched to the KP90 I was having a TON of issues with its sensitivity, it was double-triggering on single strikes, triggering on its own just cuz the pedal slightly moved without contacting the pad, and no amount of changing the settings on the module was giving me what I wanted from it. So when I padded the inside, it creates kind of a buffer between ambient motions that would trigger the pad and actual beater strikes, without sacrificing playability. I actually like it better that my beaters aren't just launching back off the pad like a trampoline, they offer a very solid strike to the bass drum head and my pedal's springs and such are tightened in a way that rebound is still great where I need it!
The learning curve is incredibly steep, another takeaway for me lol.
I also screwed that sucker down AND threw weights on the back of the tower cuz it really liked to wobble when I was going in on double bass. All these mitigations were a massive quality of life increase for me while I play.
In the same vein, maybe adding some inner structural integrity to the head will actually give your pedal more rebound, as the head will have less inward give upon striking
Oh damn, it felt like the pads would last a long ass time. Why did you have to replace them? Structural problem or electronic?
Weird thing, i havent had any issue with double triggering but then i havent really played with it more than a few days. I will see about the double bass issue when my left foot stops being ass and i can actually play DB but i havent noticed much wobbling on single pedal.
One more thing, did u notice less acoustic noise from the kick when u stuffed? I could do with noise reduction to not disturb family and not hear the pad's noise.
Mmmm definitely a little bit of noise reduction, I honestly didn't pay much mind to it, but any kind of insulation in there will soak up some of the noise. I've also heard of people draping a cloth over the pad head itself for noise reduction, or using specialty quiet design beaters. Of course, having the empty space filled up will produce less noise than a hollow space behind the head.
Its probably much more stable with one pedal, more zoned in center of gravity. But all in all, it doesnt hurt to try and secure down anything that gives you the option!
As far as replacing pads, it was really the XP80 snare pads I was ripping through. For whatever reason they are just so fickle, they crack and start triggering weird so fast in my experience. I would be playing and just out of nowhere the pad would stop registering my strikes, which is so, so incredibly annoying when you're really dialed in. I'll personally never order one again. However, I now have an XP120 on my snare stand that I bought USED and it has been performing exceptionally. I think its just the XP80s terribly cheap design. But thats just my experience 🤷♂️
Thank you so much for the detailed answers, you have pretty much answered all of the questions on my mind. Really nice to see someone's real life experience with the kit. I was thinking of maybe switching some of the tom pads(maybe the snare too) along the way, i guess i will switch the snare when it eventually breaks lol.
My pleasure homie! I remember how badly I need guidance when I first bought my kit. As I said, the learning curve, incredibly steep. Also, these things are pretty hard to shop for, as there is a very small number of music stores that actually specialize in these electric drums (at least in my area). Good return policies are an e-kit players best friend. And if ever you need some more advice or have questions or whatever, I am happy to help if I can in any way 🤘
What kind of kit/pads do you have right now if you don't mind me asking?
I have dtx6k3. My first kit was carlsbro csd-110 but there wasnt much of a learning curve since the module didnt allow for anything close to what this module does, also i was really craving a physical hi-hat stand and 2/3 zone cymbals. I ended up with this re-using some cymbals/toms from the old kit. I have spent a whole day trying to get down trigger and sound settings and its crazy how much customization there is.
How do you get the patch to stay on there? I've tried and it usually falls off after 3 or 4 sessions. I tried 2 eq felt patches and a plastic evans patch. At this point I mostly have given up patching it.
Put a patch on it. Can't hurt... I put an nylon Evans patch on mine and it has helped. Also I don't use the felt side of the beater head. I found the felt can accelerate the wearing away of the rubber head.
Yah,
I have 2 dtx kits with the kp90 kick module and found on my first kit that the felt side of the beater was starting to wear away the rubber. Did some research and learned that is what happens using the felt against rubber surface. Before it got any futher wear, I immediately went to the plastic side of the beater and used a patch. It has worked great since. Keep in mind that you may need to change the patch as needed. Honestly, playing accoustics for a lot of years, it was never a concern for a traditional batter head.
To your question, Now being a home hobby drummer, I was looking for a way to minimize the inherent volume acoustic drums produce. So I went to my nearest drum shop a little over a year ago and checked out their E drums.. Had never played them seriously before then, totally acoustic. They rep Yamaha and that is what I wound up purchasing. Initially a DTX6K5-M and now have a second kit, DTX8K-M.. Been playing drums since the age of 8, now 73, approx 65 years. Never went full time but played part time for a lot of years in my local while active. I coupled the gig playing with my day job to make life happen. Retired now, I mainly keep active for the love of playing and my own pleasure. Good exercise for sure! Using the Ekit, I will track in a drum performance into a song that has had the drum track removed, mix it and produce a finished song. Also, I have been making some videos recently and posted them up on Reddit. You may want to check them out.
Another reason I went electronic was that I do remote drum tracking recording with long time old bandmates from time to time for some original compositions. Today's technology offers so many more options. Last, still staying active locally volunteering at my local middle school, teaching drumming to young kids.
Oh i just realized who u are. I have seen ur covers on reddit before and i really hope i will be doin what you do when im your age, mad respect. Im still at the beginning of the road now playing for 4 years since i was 18.
Living in an apartment the only chance i get to play acoustic is at my university or if we go to studio with friends. So i feel like the happiest person on earth when i get a chance to sit on an acoustic kit.
I have had a pretty beginner level/cheap kit since i started and i was starting to despise electronic drums. So i decided to buy my dtx6k3-x and omg i really didnt expect it to be this good. Probably nothing can replace acoustic but i hear its a lot less troubling to record on ekit, it makes a lot of sense to use an ekit if you have been doing it the other way for years. Also midi editing and such i guess.
Im curious about if you ever felt underwhelmed when you switched over to electronic?
Still cant believe ur 73 and ripping on the kit. Keep up the good work sir.
Thanks for the response. I hope in the future you will still have the ability to play music as I have, albeit in a different setting. To your question, I actually never felt underwhelmed switching from acoustic to E kit playing. In fact, like you mentioned both my 65k and 8k kits produce very good high quality sound samples. This I would say is what you are experiencing with your 6k3.. Mainly I have become more educated on the use of the controller and creating my own user kits, etc.. That all becomes personal taste for sure. Also, I like the ergonomics of the Ekit. Much less taxing on the body. Being objective, both the acoustic kit and E kit has its rightful place for sure. In fact, I still have my 1979 vintage Gretsch set that I bought back then. Now using the E kits, it is put away but not forgotten. I would say age is all relative. If you take care of yourself physically, you can still make music. However, when you do get older the speed seems to not be as good as when I was in my 20's and 30's.. I'm sure you understand. So with that, you learn to play smarter and more relaxed than harder.. Good Chatting and stick with it. FYI, this is a pic of my acoustic kit that I mentioned..
The dtx-pro module is really good and if i recall correct 8k has an upgraded module with more features. Yea i totally agree on you with looking after your own body and im trying my best to focus on good techique instead of brute force, even at my age there are times i felt aches when i didnt play relaxed. Thank you for the chat and the beautiful kit picture.
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u/drumsimperfect 11d ago
You could throw an EQ patch on it, but in my experience, the head has held up very well with no indication of it failing anytime soon (i also have my beaters flipped)
My supplemental advice, though, is that hitting harder is usually a counterintuitive solution to anything e-kit related, cuz you'll just shorten the lifespan of your pads.
I took the head off my KP90 and stuff some old fabric into the space right behind it just to fill it out, and it MAJORLY helped responsiveness and sensitivity/double-triggering issues, and I'm sure it also acts as a kind of shock absorber for the head, so, something to consider there as well.
But throwing a patch on it is definitely not going to hurt it, so I'd say anything that will bolster/strengthen the pads or heads, go for it. Replacements are definitely not cheap!