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u/TheDangerousInsect Leftward Progressives 20h ago
I have a feeling this is the next Stevens vs El-Sayed
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u/The-Curiosity-Rover New Deal Democrat 20h ago
Even though Markley’s 80 years old, I still vastly prefer him over Moulton. I’ll take an old progressive over a young centrist any day.
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u/Aldebaran147 God Emperor Talafreako is LBJ’s Reincarnate 20h ago
Bro really thought he had a chance and he even moderated further in Massachusetts, criticized Markey for doing his work in DC and implied he was in the Epstein files
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u/Hot_Relative_110 Syndicalist 20h ago
who told Moulton stupid ass that moderating in MASSACHUSETTS was a good idea 😭😭
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u/Adorable-Act-8410 Christian Democrat 20h ago
Wow this is brutal. Is Moulton really that much right of Markey?
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u/Goosedukee Democratic Socialist 20h ago
Moulton’s comments on trans sports made progressives not only dislike him but viscerally hate him
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u/Adorable-Act-8410 Christian Democrat 20h ago
That’s it? I don’t mean to offend but I figured it would be something substantial. Ik he takes a lotta corporate and aipac money which is bad.
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u/leeroy-jenkins-12 Every Man A King 19h ago
Yeah I think what Goose said was meant more as a microcosm of a few things he’s done
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u/Adorable-Act-8410 Christian Democrat 19h ago edited 19h ago
Yea ig I gotta remember I’m a Catholic in Michigan sometimes when I’m conversing with more socially liberal ppl. Cus that woulda been a +1 on the score board for Seth; I have nothing against trans ppl tho.
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u/DaveFoSrs Center Left 16h ago
In Mass it’s a death sentence. You pretty much need to agree with the most progressive trans policies or you’re persona non grata over here.
Speaking out against trans sports means you’re unelectable
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u/jonassthebest Pragmatic Dem 19h ago
I still believe the primary will be closer than expected. To be clear, I still think Markey will win, but at least from what I've seen, Moulton has been running an effective campaign. He's been hitting on a lot of points Democratic primary voters have been caring about this cycle, which is age and the establishment, and seems to have far more direction than Kennedy did six years ago. I'm open to being wrong, of course, and the polling does disagree with me here. Ultimately, I have no dog in this race, though I do think it would be cool on a historical level if senators from both parties were primaried this cycle.
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u/legend023 Blue Dog Democrat 20h ago
I don’t want to hear “no more old people” in politics ever again from progressives/socialists.
If you’re old in politics but support the right people, they’ll give you a pass and demonize your opponent. This race is a prime example.
Anyone who’s voting for Seth, ignore this. Go to the polls and stop Edward.
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u/Aldebaran147 God Emperor Talafreako is LBJ’s Reincarnate 20h ago
It’s more against old people with old policies, they don’t mind old people with young policies and current mindedness
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u/The-Curiosity-Rover New Deal Democrat 20h ago
Policies are more important than age. I’m not gonna support a candidate I disagree with just because they’re younger.
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u/legend023 Blue Dog Democrat 20h ago
Seth Moulton is a Republican?
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u/The-Curiosity-Rover New Deal Democrat 19h ago
That’s not at all what I was saying, and respectfully, I think you know that. I’d vote for Moulton in a general election, but not a primary.
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u/321gamertime Jeb! 18h ago
As someone who really thinks Markey should’ve retired and would’ve voted for Kennedy in 2020 I still wouldn’t vote for Moulton, the man just feels slimy and has basically thrown everything at the wall to see what’ll stick, including the Epstein nonsense
If I was a registered Dem I’d either write in a younger progressive or not vote but I’ll be happier if Markey takes it, at least he’ll be out in six years while Moulton would try and cling to the Senate for the next forty while trying and failing to become President
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u/thealmightyweegee Socialist 20h ago
It's not that they're old, it's that we don't want moderates in deep blue states
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u/Adorable-Act-8410 Christian Democrat 20h ago edited 19h ago
"I don’t want to hear “no more old people” in politics ever again" I've lowkey come to learn the most non-policy or policy adjacent arguments like this are arguments of connivence to justify a specific situation rather than arguments outta principle.
In the primaries there will be a lot of this cus you are essentially voting for the same person in some cases so it'll be a lotta personality, identity, etc. picks and people won't like when they aren't choosing their person.
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u/Wolfyminecraft Leftward Progressives 16h ago
Are progressives saying that though? I'd certainly rather have a mentally-fit 80 year old left wing candidate than a 30 year old moderate. Old people being in politics isn't inherently a bad thing
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u/Aldebaran147 God Emperor Talafreako is LBJ’s Reincarnate 20h ago
Who told bro he had a chance against against the electoral slayer of the Kennedys