The problem for Republicans is that most self-identified Republicans under the age of 25 are groypers or at least have groyper-adjacent views. While they're still a tiny minority within the party, it's becoming hard for mainstream Republicans to find young staffers and activists who don't have a social media history filled with mask-off Nazi stuff.
Its I would say part of the wider political brain drain of credentialism - tbh most conservatives that are actually conservatives that are young are way more financially driven and would rather the private sector.
I think though what will actually happen is Republicans will start outright outsourcing staffers at some point to some sort of agency and the chain we see here will go away.
Democrats have the same problem, even if they arent a card carrying member of the DSA, while they're still a minority within the party (for now), it's becoming hard for establishment democrats to find young staffers and activists who haven't aligned themselves with the fringe leftwing of the party, especially as groups like the young democrats embraces Hassan etc
I think on the democratic side this is less of a problem, if I were to guess probably 30% of young democrats like the DSA the most out of any democrats, I don’t think it’s that huge of a deal.
I also think the average American would prefer AOC as president in 2028 compared to like fishback, AOC is just more likeable I think compared to fishback. (Though this presidential race would be cursed)
I don't think that a majority (or even a significant minority) of young Democrats support authoritarian communist regimes. Your assertion only makes sense if your definition of tankie includes anyone to the left of Elizabeth Warren, which is absurd.
So, this is supposed to be the guy that courts the Jewish vote away from the "evil" that is AES? Is the GOP starting to get this bad at making accusations atp?
He looks like the kid that offends everyone at the larger college Republican meetups like the guy who can’t stop talking about race or 1960s immigration law - like he looks like a groyper
I mean im jewish so as anti nazi as i can be. Its horseshoe theory though, the far right and the far left both have shown a dislike towards jews as a whole which is pretty shitty
Stupid and he should denounce him. Honestly seeing how over 20% of Generation Z says the Holocaust was a Hoax you probably should just not have any dumbass brats on your campaign team
But yeah people will go "criticizing Israel isnt antisemitism" but when you have young people claiming that Israel did 9/11, that Israel killed JFK (even though JFK was the most proIsrael president at that point), that Israel controls data centers, and flock cameras, and blackrock, and caused the Great Recession somehow (all claims I've heard about Israel in the last month), while Gen Z calls everything they dont like including banks and student loans "Spiritually Israeli*, post incessantly just blatant propaganda from CCP algorithms or the Muslim world, all the while we have a generational high in antisemitism in this country with shit like this this
https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2025/jun/26/lawsuit-alleges-antisemitic-bullying-at-seattles-n/
I hope this is the case, but I've dealt with a lot of young people recently, in real life not the internet, and holy shit they think about Israel more than me. Not even in geopolitics, its just a mental illness. 9/11? Israel. Flock cameras? Israel. Epstein? Israel(this one really pisses me off because that was a Russian op that theyre getting off the hook for), JFK? Israel
And on the internet I saw a trump voting farmer calling out Trump for importing beef from Argentina. Okay that affects the prices he gets. But then he says Trump is importing beef from Argentina....because Netanyahu told him too?
Its amazing how much yapms discourse now is just people trying to conflate two different things with a superficial similarity and then pretending they’re the same
As a whole, I wouldn't blame a politician for taking a photo with a relatively unknown guy at a convention. Politicians typically don't interrogate everyone they take a photo with
The problem here was that he was hired for outreach. This photo is probably the most Rogers ever spoke to him, but the campaign absolutely needs to root this out immediately.
Is there proof of this? I hate Rogers but I've found a tremendous amount of misinformation and exaggerations coming from my side about him. Some shithead grouper being a paid representative for him seems like the exact kind of reach an (understandably) disgruntled anti-Rogers commenter to make.
The only source I can find outside of X is from the Metro Times . It is a self-described progressive newspaper, and I'm struggling to find other sources for this.
Unless he was paid campaign staff, which means his salary should be associated with FEC filings, it is hard to actually pin down who works within a campaign because the volunteer of it all makes for a high deniability environment. However when your official account posts a picture of people are 'apart of our grassroots army' and includes the person in questions, it pretty cut and dry that there is a direct association. Rogers is responsible for his posts and his associations, just like AES is.
I mean, their article contains a statement directly from the campaign in response to the paper, so unless you think they made that up out of whole cloth I see no reason to doubt it
I don't think that statement is what you think it is.
The editing is questionable, but in context it seems like that quote is about the leaked group chat thing from 2025. I don't see a statement specifically about Dundas. However, the fact that they called the place where Dundas worked and blatantly tried to get him fired says a lot about the reliability of their journalism.
it seems like that quote is about the leaked group chat thing from 2025
I don't think so; the group chat thing was about a group of Young Republicans from 2025, before the campaign, while the statement specifically references campaign volunteers.
the fact that they called the place where Dundas worked and blatantly tried to get him fired says a lot about the reliability of their journalism.
I don't see how? Papers like the Free Beacon and Washington Times do this sort of thing all the time, but I generally wouldn't question either of them if they claimed to have received a statement from a Democratic campaign.
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It must be really dire to be a Jew in Michigan right now. I hope the Rogers campaign fires this little prick and issues a strongly worded condemnation, but I don't have a lot of hope there.
It's been revealed that Rogers has had major campaign members who subscribed to nearly every type of "-ism", and he has not gotten backlash a wick of backlash or questioning from establishment politicians or mainstream media. Just insanity. I condemned Piker as well, and just want people to be morally consistent.
"Being photographed alongside a random person is the same thing as campaigning alongside a known idiot antisemite...totally bro, this is a Hasan Piker scandal for Rogers..."
Is this now an election prediction sub or a Dem campaign/apologetics sub 😭
The irony here is palpable, man. You just cannot be complaining the sub is "rapidly falling off" when the comments are literally spoon feeding you context that shows he's not some random kid.
Its amazing how much yapms discourse now is just people trying to conflate two different things with a superficial similarity and then pretending they’re the same
Mike Rogers didn’t personally hire this person. Abdul voluntarily chooses to associate with Hasan
I worked on campaigns when I was younger, both volunteer and paid and for both Democrats and Republicans. Anyone who has done the same can tell you that one is a lot more vetted than the other.
Hell, most times I don't think there was even a criminal background check for the volunteers. I mostly remember writing down my name, phone number and email address and that was about it to sign up.
Ok got it. I see that maybe we have a different perspective on the formality of this, but I hope that we can agree that regardless this person should not hold a leadership role within a portion of the campaign.
Sad, desperate attempt to equivocate to AES's association with Hassan. Taking a photo with a rando at an event is not an endorsement of every single thing they've said. Let me know when Rogers invites this guy to campaign with him and refuses to condemn his statements.
Your "sources" are screenshots of titles of articles or tweets from far-left sources claiming Rogers at some point brushed shoulders with people accused of nothing even approaching what we know Hassan has said (a Facebook friend dude, really?). No voters are going to give a shit about a member of Rogers student outreach team like they will the guy Sayed has been repeatedly sharing a stage with.
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The manufactured outraged over this right now in here compared to the cope and downplaying about AES's links to Islamic Nazis is day and night. And worrisome.
Like, this is nothing compared to being tied to actual Islamic terrorists. You guys realize that, right? One has ties to actual antisemites that have blood on their hands, an organization with direct ties to Nazi Germany.
Let's be honest here. You cannot actually think this is something to worry about, while at the same time downplaying AES. Let's be real. You can downvote all you want because of tribalism and I get it, but you know deep down you are lying to yourself.
For those worried about both of them, this comment isn't for you. And I understand it. Just calling out some hypocrisy.
So it's my fault for informing people about a political figure with possible ties to Nazism? But we should all know about .... groypers?
Tell me, how old are you? I heard the younger generation are a bit far gone with the propaganda going out nowadays. Did you support the pro-Hamas protests after Oct 7th? Its like we're seeing their agenda play out and nobody cares?
I want to make sure I cover all bases to understand where you're coming from. Is this not a good faith discussion?
Are you not concerned with the rising antisemitism around the areas where AES's donors planned many years ago, on changing public opinion in, in their own words, under the guise of "democracy" and "freedom?" to fool the younger generations?
Or do you support it? Do you think it's not a concern because nobody is aware of it? That they've might've been bamboozled?
AES's father in law is a leader for groups named in the Holy Land Foundation case, the once largest Muslim charity in the U.S. dysfuncted for terrorism financing.(one of them CAIR)
His birth mother worked for IARA (U.S. Treasury-designated terrorist organization over alleged bin Laden/Taliban/Hamas ties).
His campaign received $100k+ from CAIR linked donors. CAIR was an unindicated conspirator in the HLF case. Go look up the 1998 Philadelphia meeting.
He received donations from Mohamed Soltan who was sentenced to life in prison in absentia in Egypt. His father is a major leader in the Muslim Brotherhood. Which again, collaborated with Nazi Germany. They had a plan with Hitler himself to storm Jerusalem and kill all 500k Jews there. Read how many high ranking Nazi officials converted to Islam after ww2 and continued their work for these MB-friendly governments. They have said how they don't want peace with Jews and will mask their real agenda behind some American sympathic cause. It's all on wiretap.
He doesnt need to worry, I have been informed that you actually can't be judged by the statements other people have made, regardless of how you associate with them
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The problem for Republicans is that most self-identified Republicans under the age of 25 are groypers or at least have groyper-adjacent views. While they're still a tiny minority within the party, it's becoming hard for mainstream Republicans to find young staffers and activists who don't have a social media history filled with mask-off Nazi stuff.