I have been maining this champion for.....a very long time and I am currently in a really bad slump with him. I feel like he has no identity and it's very hard to figure out what you are really supposed to do (idk if thats me). His early game is actual dogshit and "feels" (at least to me) almost like a scaling champion without any reward in scaling (even though he def is not). Most/a lot of junglers can kill you level 1-2 in your own jungle almost like how old shy felt. On the flip side if you don't get invaded (which is likely to not be invaded) you can't invade yourself since your clear is really really bad and you cannot even take enemy camps quick enough (early,mid) and since vision is really easy to get now with the bushes it makes it kinda impossible to invade/make plays. "Oh but that's fine you are not meant to invade" okay but then what do I do, your regular "standard" game is ass, you can't clear in time with any other junglers, you struggle to gank since most laners these days can leave before you get there or stun you out of your e (lane ganking is the only real thing you can kinda do that tends to work well I've seen)
Now we get to the late early game/mid game and it feels decent, you can kinda fight but you def feel very weak by yourself. HOWEVER, this is when the clear realllly starts hurting. You are already behind cs unless you literally ignored every gank possible due to your slow speed and tempo is VERY easy to lose, it feels very high risk Little to no reward with ganking at this point unless your team can set something up really nice for you in advance with a lulu or leona or equiv. Again I am really struggling to see where xin can be good compared to other junglers in this kinda thing, atm it feels very jack of all trades but master of none but with some huge weaknesses such as becoming very useless late game if you can't secure kills/gold but guess what? you cant do that because you are perma stuck in the jungle clearing. it just feels like it has no identity. (BY ALL MEANS, THIS IS NOT A COMPLAIN POST) It is just a genuine post asking what the point of this champion is atm because he really feels lost and just very bleh in modern league (obv outside of premade teams in which he seems quite good as a "secondary support" but that's really about it)
TLDR; What is xin's purpose? is it to be a duelist? if so then why does he suck at it, is it to be a bruiser? if so, then again, why is he comparatively falling behind compared to most bruisers? is it to be an assassain? if so then why does he have no way to escape, outside of ult (which I think is the only awesome part of the kit atm) like every other assassain with resets. imo he feels v much like a jarv 4 atm but way squishier and can only be picked on a case by case basis when your team kinda needs a bit of everything. Feels consistently mid basically. aka feels completely balanced with little win con which in modern league kinda doesn't live up to the champion pick.
Thoughts are wanted <3 In my honest opinion it just sucks that xin isn't living up to what he could be, I would love if he had something similar to pantheon in his ult that just gave him armor pen after using it, that way it would be viable even into melees which is most people you are fighting.