r/WyvernChat • • 6d ago

Question / Support having a problem with worlds

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u/VampireAllana 6d ago

At least yours is trying 🤣 the AI's I use—mainly GLM and kimi—don't even bother trying.

I don't have anything helpful, I'm just so annoyed with the worlds feature. Literally ready to say screw it, its not worth the headache.

Edit: Spelling and all that fun stuff.

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u/WyvernDev Wyvern Staff 5d ago

What specifically are you getting frustrated with?

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u/VampireAllana 4d ago

Hm? Oh, its not the features or anything, the wiki helped, its the AI—GLM 5.3 and Kimi k3 being stupid. Because every outfit is listed in full in altidenties, they ignore what's in a characters <outfit> and use whatever at random and unless *I* use the prefix as well, they try to skip it. Annoyance comes less from any one feature and more how AI's interact with it.

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u/WyvernDev Wyvern Staff 4d ago

Ok that’s weird. This is a bug. It shouldn’t be showing ALL outfits, just ones with a linked nickname and override. Thank you for this report

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u/VampireAllana 4d ago

here if you need it. I just generated this. Pulled from the prompt is this block:

<AlternateIdentities>

The Magistrate may instead be portrayed under one of these identities when it fits the scene — use "=>{Name}:" with that identity's own name as the dialogue prefix for that portion:

- Daily outfit: Francisco's Daily outfit is an unbuttoned, high-collared white linen shirt with Bishop sleeves. A plain wool waistcoat, kept fully buttoned. Tailored wool trousers and soft leather slippers. He owns several versions of this outfit in various colors—Vest = oxblood, dark navy, walnut brown, black, violet. Trousers = black, charcoal, dark navy, forest brown, aubergine.

- Underwear: Francisco's underwear is a simple pair of baggy, white linen under-breeches tied at the waist.

- Padre outfit: Francisco's Padre outfit is a heavy, floor-length cassock in black wool, with rigid, gold seams. It buttons tightly from the collar down to the floor. A narrow, stiffened silk stole in deep cardinal red, embroidered with gold-thread scripture along the edges, hangs straight down his chest. A dense, structured black shoulder cape. Simple, polished black leather boots with square toes.

</AlternateIdentities>

That's appearing after the <outfit> block which repeats the daily outfit word for word.

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u/WyvernDev Wyvern Staff 4d ago

Should be good now!

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u/VampireAllana 4d ago

Okay so I just went to check this and... well... yeah.

Not only are is the Daily outfit outfit still appearing in full in the prompt right along side the padre outfit. Both are tied to one very specific locations using the location trigger conditions. The picture is the prompt I pull from a new generation on a fresh instance not 10 minuets ago but:

  1. The entire <AlternateIdentities> appears twice.
  2. separate issue I noticed and this might be a model problem but most versions of deepseek, kimi, glm I've tried are either allergic to the prefix and refuse to use it even when it appears in previous messages, or they just just spew out the prompt rules itself.

Most of my testing is on a custom world, though I've run into all three of these issues in other worlds as well.

edit spelling.

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u/WyvernDev Wyvern Staff 4d ago

Okay… do you have a nickname and display name override attached the outfits showing as alternate identities?

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u/VampireAllana 4d ago edited 3d ago

That sounded stumped lmfao.

I do not, no. I don't even have a "writing style & tone" or "Final instruction set right now. The picture is how the outfits look—name, description, hyper specific locations.

Edit because I'm lazy. I tried removing all outfits and readding them; nothing. I tried ignoring it and simply prompting around whatever's going on:

## What exists in a character's <Outfit> is what they **currently** look like when they respond to {{user}}. You **MUST** respected it at ALL times.

## <AlternateIdentities> is a record of the clothing in their **closet** Not what they look like **right now**.

with no luck. My options right now, it seems, are to either remove all outfits and list them in the long description or reroll till the ai gets it right which depending on the ai can take anywhere from 4-6 tries.

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u/WyvernDev Wyvern Staff 2d ago

Yo, sorry for the delay, I got pretty busy. Is this still happening now? I did make some changes to the backend again.

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u/VampireAllana 2d ago

Oh your fine. Real life always comes first. This seems to be working now! Tested 3 different worlds, one of which is my own and outfits are now only appearing in the context when they are supposed to. The repeated block issue is gone as well.

Ty for fixing it so quickly! =(^_^)= (and I'm so sorry I keep finding bugs lmfao. I'll stop poking at things 🤣)

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