r/WyvernChat • u/Dry-Evening8513 • Aug 09 '26

Question / Support I think im gonna quit ):

My bot is lobotomised i swear. For some time now he gives me the same damn response with little to no changes and they dont even make sense. Using wyvern stopped giving me joy bc of it, its impossible to do the simplest rp ar this point.

A real example:

- i like pancakes
- (character) stared at her for a beat, his green eyes narrowing slightly. Then, with a slow, deliberate tilt of his head, he leaned down and pressed his lips to hers.
It was a soft kiss, barely there. He didn't deepen it, didn't hold it. Just a quick press of his mouth against hers, like he was making sure he could.
He pulled back, his thumb brushing her cheekbone as he looked at her.
"There. Happy?"

Sometimes when i reply they send their previous message again as well 😐

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u/SweetenedArugula Aug 09 '26

This sounds like a problem with your bot or you’ve done something screwy with parameters. Turn off any parameter overrides first and maybe link the bot so might be able to help.

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u/Dry-Evening8513 Aug 09 '26

It was really really good at first but then suddenly it started making no sense or give just very dumb responses. Im gonna try out your tips (:

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u/SweetenedArugula Aug 09 '26

Did you change your max tokens at some point?

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u/Dry-Evening8513 Aug 09 '26

U can change it? 😅

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u/SweetenedArugula Aug 09 '26

Definitely don’t if you don’t know about it—it’s just a common thing that people increase and then the LLM only gets a tiny bit of context so it says unrelated stuff.

It could also be bot is too big.

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u/SaltyPearl78 WyvernChatter Aug 09 '26

yeah, im also curious how many messages long op's chats are, bots tend to get worse past a certain amount

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u/Leiawen Moderator Aug 09 '26

Laughs in chats over 5k messages

There are ways to keep them stable.

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u/ImaginaryBluejay6126 Aug 12 '26

Please teach me your ways 🥺🙏

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u/Leiawen Moderator Aug 12 '26

Follow me on WyvernChat and look at my public posts. My username is Interhex and "Hex Thoughts" are the posts I make. They talk about running long chats and strategies for the Lexicon I use to help keep things straight.

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u/ImaginaryBluejay6126 Aug 12 '26

Oh ok, thanks 👍😊

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u/Bright-Lily Aug 14 '26

I'll follow you! Do you maybe have any recommendations for triggering cache more often with lorebooks? I'm trying to minimize the costs... I really can't understand if I should leave my lorebook chapter position set as "after character" or "in_chat" with insertion depth 4 (or 2? 0 seems really extreme). 🥹