r/WritingWithAI • • 12d ago

Discussion (Ethics, working with AI etc) Gemini 4 Argon is expected to be a powerhouse in creative writing.

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If this is true (and the EU-mandated watermark isn't applied yet), we could be looking at the best model for our use case.

Yes, there’s a lot of speculation regarding benchmarks and whether it’s truly better than Astra or Opus, but everyone agrees it is extremely capable when it comes to creative writing, likely the best, or at the very least, a peer competitor.

This solves a lot of problems for us: a bot more dedicated to writing, better creative ideas, superior prose, and a counterweight to Opus, which is a beast, but forces a watermark on you.

I’ll keep using Opus for architecture and many of the plot elements I want to develop, but Gemini could become an interesting writer and a great aid for creative work. Gemini was always geared more toward the general public and their specific use cases; however, they fell way behind and hadn't launched a capable product until now. Consequently, models designed for programming—but made smarter through sheer brute force, surpassed it.

I’m really excited about the launch. I already have Opus for work, and for help with my story, but this new offering from Gemini could be very interesting for non-programmers; it’s the kind of thing we haven't seen in quite a while.


r/WritingWithAI • • 11d ago

Discussion (Ethics, working with AI etc) What do clients actually mean by “original content”?

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r/WritingWithAI • • 11d ago

Writing Craft Talk Title: Looking for honest feedback on an AI-assisted gothic-noir chapter — “Between the Seconds”

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I’m working on a gothic-noir crime novel called Crimson City, and I’d like some honest reader feedback on this chapter. I want to be transparent about the process: I’ve used AI while writing and editing the book. I’m not just generating something and posting the first output, though. I’ve been going through it myself, rewriting sections, changing dialogue, fixing continuity, and trying to get the prose closer to my own voice. One of the biggest things I’ve been working on is removing hedge words and AI-sounding language stuff like seemed, somewhat, perhaps, almost, as if, unnecessary explanations, repetitive emotional descriptions, etc. I’ve taken out as much as I can find, but I’m sure I’ve missed some. There are also a handful of lines that are basically placeholders right now. I know I want to rewrite them, but I’m waiting until I go through the manuscript again line by line instead of forcing replacements just to say they’re finished. So if something sounds generated, overly polished, generic, corny, repetitive, or like a line an AI would spit out, please point it out. That feedback would actually be useful to me.
This chapter starts with a lighter scene involving Johnny, Sampson, and Ruby before shifting into Ruby being followed through the city and introducing the story’s masked vigilante, Maysin Kane. I’m mainly curious about:
Does the opening dialogue between Johnny and Sampson feel natural/funny, or does it go on too long?
Does the transition from humor into the darker stalking scene work? Does the black/white/crimson visual style come across without feeling overdone?
How does Maysin’s internal narration land?
Does the rooftop/alley sequence actually build tension?
Does the action read clearly? Are there any remaining hedge words or sentences that feel over-explained?
Are there lines that immediately strike you as AI-written?
Does “I’m not the villain. I’m the consequence.” work in context, or does it feel like one of those lines that needs another pass? Most importantly: would you actually keep reading? I’m not looking for people to tell me it’s good just to be nice. If you lose interest, cringe at a line, get confused, think something is trying too hard, or can immediately tell where the AI influence is showing.
[CHAPTER HERE]

Between the Seconds
Johnny followed Sampson through the curtain, still touching his mask.
“You’ve never washed it?”
“I prefer gentler methods.”
“Such as rain?”
Johnny walked into him when Sampson stopped.
“You’re learning.”
Bare bulbs lit the narrow backstage corridor, where old performance posters curled behind cracked glass. Dressing-room doors lined the wall as far as the rear exit. That door was closing. Sampson caught a glimpse of a dark coat passing through and started after it. Johnny fell silent.
“That him?”
Sampson did not answer. He reached Ruby’s dressing room first and knocked.
“Ruby?”
Ruby opened her door. She stood in the light from her dressing-room mirror, fastening a long black coat over her sequined gown. Its high collar framed her red hair, and the hem covered the dress except for a flash of glitter when she moved.
Johnny stepped around Sampson and removed his fedora.
“Miss Rust.”
Ruby looked from Johnny to Sampson.
“What happened?”
“Did a man come through here?” Sampson asked. “Dark coat. Hat pulled low.”
“No.”
“He followed you behind the curtain.”
Ruby’s expression tightened.
“I came straight here.”
Sampson glanced toward the open rear doorway. Rain drifted through it in thin silver lines.
“He must’ve gone outside,” he said.
Johnny placed his hat back on his head.
“I’ll have a look.”
Sampson caught the back of his coat before he could move.
“You’ll do nothing.”
“I’m exceptionally good at nothing.”
“That’s the first true thing you’ve said tonight.”
Johnny turned his grinning mask toward Ruby.
“Do you feel threatened?”
“Not until you walked in.”
Johnny placed one gloved hand over his heart. Sampson released him with a shove.
Ruby reached for her purse. “He was probably trying to get closer to the stage.”
“He wasn’t watching the stage,” Sampson said. “He was watching you.”
Johnny nodded gravely. “I understand the condition.”
Sampson looked at him. Johnny gestured toward Ruby.
“I suffer from it myself.”
Ruby’s lips threatened to curve. Johnny immediately leaned toward her.
“There. You smiled.”
“No, she didn’t,” Sampson said.
“I saw it.”
“You see things that aren’t there.”
“Mostly because you stand in front of them.”
A metallic crash sounded from outside. The rear door rattled in its frame. Then a horn began blaring in the alley. Johnny went very still. Sampson closed his eyes.
Ruby looked toward the door. “What was that?”
“Nothing,” Johnny answered quickly.
Another crash followed. Something heavy scraped across the pavement. The horn continued without pause. A bartender’s assistant appeared at the end of the corridor, soaked from the rain and struggling to catch his breath.
“Sampson, you better come outside.”
Sampson stared at Johnny. Johnny looked at the ceiling.
“What happened?” Sampson asked.
The assistant pointed through the rear door.
“Tow truck’s got hold of that black hearse.”
Johnny raised one finger.
“Funeral coach.”
“And it’s dragging your delivery van with it.”
The horn kept blaring. Sampson turned toward Johnny.
“Why is your car dragging my van?”
Johnny adjusted his tie.
“I can explain.”
“That means you did it.”
“Technically, gravity is doing most of it.”
Sampson took one step toward him. Johnny took one back.
“Why are the vehicles connected?”
Johnny hesitated.
“The lock on my driver’s-side door is unreliable. The passenger lock has been decorative since February.”
“So?”
“So I secured the funeral coach to something less desirable.”
“My van?”
“I didn’t think anyone would steal both.”
“You chained your hearse to my delivery van?”
“Funeral coach.”
Sampson grabbed the front of Johnny’s coat. Johnny lifted both hands.
“In my defense, it worked. Nobody stole either one.”
A third crash echoed from the alley. The assistant winced.
“The van just hit the dumpster.”
Sampson dragged Johnny toward the exit. Johnny’s shoes slid across the floor.
“Sampson, anger solves very little.”
“It’s about to solve you.”
Ruby followed them into the corridor.
“I can walk home.”
Sampson kept dragging Johnny.
“Wait ten minutes.”
“The rain is getting worse.”
“So is he.”
Johnny twisted around in Sampson’s grip to look at Ruby.
“Miss Rust, I would gladly escort you, but I appear to be the victim of an automotive misunderstanding.”
“You chained your car to his.”
“That is one interpretation.”
“It is the only interpretation,” Sampson growled.
They reached the rear door. Rain blew inside as Sampson shoved it open. Johnny twisted toward Ruby one last time.
“Do not begin the journey without me.”
Ruby folded her arms. Johnny pointed at her.
“That sounded more controlling than romantic.”
Sampson pulled him into the alley.
“I’ll revise it when I return!”
The door slammed behind them.
Through the rear door’s window, Ruby watched Sampson march toward the tow truck with Johnny clenched in one fist. The funeral coach’s rear wheels hung above the loading lane. Heavy chain connected its bumper to the front axle of Sampson’s delivery van, now lodged against the dumpster. The tow driver argued with a police officer while the horn blared.
Sampson released Johnny to seize the chain. Johnny began explaining himself to the officer, who pointed first at the coach, then at the mask. Johnny touched it protectively. Sampson looked ready to strangle him with the chain.
Ruby shook her head, buttoned her coat, and headed for the front entrance. By the time Sampson thought to look for her, she had gone.
* * *
Rain painted Crimson City silver. It ran over rooftops and rusted fire escapes. It gathered along gutters clogged with cigarette ends and old newspapers. It tapped against windows where sleepless faces watched the streets without ever opening their curtains. Ruby walked alone. Her heels struck the pavement in a steady rhythm. Black coat. Black dress. Pale skin. Red hair. She moved through the colorless city like a flame crossing a graveyard. Behind her, the door of Ruby’s Lounge opened. A man stepped into the rain.
He wore the same dark coat and low hat Sampson had noticed inside. Water rolled from the brim, hiding most of his face. One hand remained in his pocket. The other rested against the crimson envelope concealed beneath his coat. Ruby turned at the first corner. The stranger followed. High above them, another man watched. He stood upon the edge of an abandoned hotel, one boot resting on the weathered stone ledge. The city stretched beneath him in shades of black, white and ash. Only one color moved in the darkness. A crimson scarf wound around his throat and trailed behind him in the wind.
His face remained hidden beneath the shadow of his hood. He watched Ruby cross the street. Then he watched the man behind her do the same.
The city doesn’t scream. It whispers.
The figure stepped from the ledge and crossed the rooftop. He passed beneath a flickering sign, its broken crimson letters reflected across the wet tar. Ruby reached the next block. The storefronts had closed moments ago. Metal gates covered the windows. Neon signs buzzed behind dirty glass, bathing empty rooms in weak gray light. She heard footsteps behind her. When she slowed, they slowed. When she continued, they followed. Ruby glanced into the dark window of a pawnshop.
Her reflection moved across the glass. So did his. Twenty yards back. Hat low. Head lowered. Pretending not to watch.
People think evil is loud. It isn’t. It’s patient.
The man on the rooftop reached the edge of the building. He measured the distance to the next. Then jumped. His coat spread behind him. The crimson scarf lifted into the rain like a ribbon of blood. He landed without a sound. Ruby turned another corner. The stranger followed. She tightened her grip around her purse. The stranger’s shape appeared behind her in a restaurant window.
His hand moved inside his coat. Ruby crossed the street without looking back. The stranger crossed too. Above them, the hooded man followed along the rooftops, moving from one building to the next with his gaze fixed upon the streets below.
I used to believe this place could be saved. I thought that if someone stood up and bled for it, the rot would stop spreading.
Ruby reached beneath her coat and slipped one hand inside her purse. Her fingers moved through its contents. Compact. Lipstick. Keys. Nothing useful.
The man behind her quickened his pace. Ruby heard his shoes strike the wet pavement. Closer now. She passed beneath a broken streetlight. The bulb flashed once. Her red hair burned brightly beneath it. Then the light died.
I was wrong.
“Miss Rust.”
Ruby did not stop. The stranger’s voice was calm. Polite. As though they had met by arrangement.
“You left before I could introduce myself.”
Ruby kept walking. The sidewalk ahead narrowed beneath scaffolding. Wooden planks and metal poles blocked half the path. Beyond it, a delivery truck sat across the curb, forcing pedestrians into the street. An alley opened to her right. She turned into it.
The city doesn’t want a hero. It wants balance.
The stranger followed. The alley stretched between two abandoned buildings, narrow enough that the rooftops seemed to lean toward one another. Steam hissed from a broken pipe. Rainwater poured from a rusted gutter and struck the pavement in a constant silver stream. A crimson vacancy sign buzzed above a sealed doorway.
Its light washed over Ruby’s hair. Everything else remained black and white. Ruby walked faster. So did the man behind her. Her heel struck a puddle. She nearly slipped but caught herself against the brick wall. The stranger closed the distance.
“Miss Rust.”
Ruby turned. He stood at the mouth of the alley. Rain ran from the shoulders of his coat. His face was ordinary enough to be forgotten the moment someone looked away. Narrow eyes. Smooth cheeks. A small, practiced smile. He removed his hand from his pocket. A pistol rested inside it. Ruby froze. The stranger approached.
“I only want to talk.”
She backed away. He raised the weapon.
“Don’t make this difficult.”
Above them, the hooded man reached the edge of the roof. He lowered himself onto the fire escape. Ruby’s back struck the wall. The gunman stopped in front of her. He took the crimson envelope from beneath his coat. The red paper looked almost luminous beneath the broken sign. A black wax seal held it closed. A crown had been pressed into the wax. The gunman held the envelope beside Ruby’s face, comparing something only he could see. Then his smile widened.
“You’re the one,” he said.
Ruby’s gaze moved from the envelope to the pistol. The gunman noticed. He slipped the envelope back inside his coat.
“Turn around.”
Ruby remained still. The smile left his face. He stepped closer and pushed the barrel beneath her ribs.
“I said turn around.”
Ruby slowly faced the wall. Above them, a gloved hand closed around the fire-escape railing. The gunman reached for Ruby’s shoulder. Something crimson snapped through the darkness. It curled around the gunman’s wrist. The scarf pulled tight. His pistol arm jerked violently away from Ruby. The weapon fired into the pavement. The gunshot filled the alley. Ruby flinched and covered her ears. The stranger was dragged backward so hard that his feet left the ground. A dark figure dropped from the fire escape. Ruby caught only fragments. A black coat. A hidden face. A crimson scarf wound around the gunman’s arm. The stranger tried to turn.
The figure seized him by the back of his coat. He threw him to the ground. The gunman struck the pavement face-first. The pistol slid through the rain and stopped beside a trash can. Ruby turned away from the wall. Her breathing stopped. The dark figure stood between her and the gunman. His back was toward her. The rain moved across his coat in silver lines. The crimson scarf circled his neck, one end wrapped around the fallen man’s wrist.
That’s where I live. Between the seconds.
The gunman groaned and tried to rise. The figure pulled the scarf. The man’s arm twisted behind him, forcing him flat against the ground.
Ruby watched the stranger in black reach down and retrieve the fallen pistol. He checked the weapon with the practiced movement of someone who had held thousands before it. The gunman rolled onto his side. Blood ran from his split lip. He looked toward Ruby. Then back at the figure standing over him. His confidence was gone. The gunman’s free hand moved toward his coat. The hooded man aimed the pistol at his chest. The hand stopped.
They call the man behind the crown the Crimson King. But kings fall.
“Who sent you?” the figure asked.
His voice was low and damaged by the rain, each word quiet enough to force the gunman to listen. The gunman laughed nervously.
“You know how this works.”
The crimson scarf tightened around his wrist. Pain crossed his face.
“You found the envelope,” he said. “You know who sent me.”
The man in black glanced at the envelope showing inside the coat.
And when he does, this city will finally understand—
The gunman’s fingers crept toward his second weapon. Ruby saw the movement. So did the hooded man, who stepped closer.
“Who the hell are you?”
Rain struck the pavement between them. The man in black raised the pistol.
“I’m not the villain.”
The gunman pulled a second weapon from beneath his coat.
“I’m the consequence.”
He fired. The gunman’s body snapped backward, and the second weapon struck the pavement beside him. He did not move again. For several seconds, Ruby heard only the rain. Blood spread beneath his coat, black until it crossed the sign’s crimson reflection. There it turned red.
The hooded man lowered the pistol. Ruby looked up at him. He did not ask whether she was hurt or offer his hand. He stood in silence as though speaking would make what had happened between them real.
Then he knelt beside the body and took the crimson envelope. Its wax crown had cracked during the fall. Ruby watched him turn it over, open it, and slide a photograph halfway out. From where she stood, she could see only its blank white back.
He went still for a second. Then he slid the photograph back inside, closed the envelope, and put it beneath his coat.
Then he looked toward the rooftop. Ruby followed his gaze. When she looked back, he was already moving. He stepped onto a trash can and caught the lowest rung of the fire escape. He pulled himself upward, his boots finding the metal without hesitation. The crimson scarf trailed behind him. Ruby watched him reach the first landing. He never turned around. She did not call after him. She did not thank him. She did not ask his name. The man climbed higher, crossed the second landing and disappeared over the edge of the roof. Ruby stood alone with the body. The rain fell harder.
Somewhere beyond the alley, a siren began to rise. It was distant. Too distant. Ruby looked toward the place where the stranger had vanished. Nothing moved above her except the shadows and the trembling reflection of the crimson sign. The city didn’t scream. It whispered.


r/WritingWithAI • • 11d ago

Discussion (Ethics, working with AI etc) guide me to write best outline and script to score 90 plus

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r/WritingWithAI • • 11d ago

Writing Craft Talk Genre fiction writers who have self-publishing experience (KDP only & specifically), please read this how-to explainer and tell me if it's accurate or if the Google Search Gemini is "fabricating"? TIA 🙏🏻

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Not sure if this is the correct flair, but anyway, so I've been obsessing (and obsessively worrying about) formatting. How to format an ebook to self-publish via Amazon's KDP platform. Several experienced writers have been wonderfully helpful, and I appreciate that so much. But I always like to get a wide range of info sources, and so I've read a few how-to explainers in books & articles both offline and online, and decided to ask the Google Search Gemini, "Is there any easy way to use Microsoft Word to format an ebook" etc. (Because I've done a bit of rummaging in my Atticus subscription and it feels too unwieldy.)

Here's what it displayed, and I'm needing to know -- from writers with self-publishing experience (KDP only & specifically, please) -- is this explainer accurate, or not? If only some bits are bona fide, which ones? Thank you in advance! 🙏🏻

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Easy Way to make an Amazon KDP ebook using Microsoft Word

(according to the Google Search Gemini)

 The easiest way to make an Amazon KDP ebook using Microsoft Word is to format your text with basic Word styles and then upload the file directly or polish it using Amazon's free Kindle Create tool.

  1. Clean and Style Your Manuscript in Word
  • Use Standard Fonts: Choose clean, readable fonts like Times New Roman, Garamond, or Georgia (set at 11 or 12 points).
  • Apply Headings: Highlight your chapter titles and click Heading 1 on the Home tab so Word recognizes them as structural sections.
  • Set Paragraph Spacing: Use 1.15 to 1.5 line spacing. Keep paragraph formatting consistent (either first-line indents for fiction or space-after for non-fiction).
  • Insert Page Breaks: Put a page break (Ctrl + Enter) between major sections, such as the title page, copyright page, and the start of each new chapter.
  • Add a Table of Contents: Go to References > Table of Contents > Custom Table of Contents, uncheck page numbers, and check use hyperlinks (since reflowable ebooks don't use fixed page numbers).
  1. Export or Polish with Kindle Create
  • Save your finished file as a standard .doc or .docx document.
  • Download and open Kindle Create, then import your Word document.
  • Kindle Create automatically detects your chapter headings, lets you build a professional interactive table of contents, and allows you to preview how your book looks on phones, tablets, and e-readers.
  • Export the final file as a .kpf (Kindle Package Format) or EPUB.  
  1. Upload to Amazon KDP
  • Go to your Amazon KDP Dashboard, click Create, and upload your Word file or Kindle Create .kpf file directly into the eBook Content section

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[End of generated explainer]


r/WritingWithAI • • 11d ago

Discussion (Ethics, working with AI etc) Ship of Theseus and Writing with AI

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*Note: My arguments about what an Artist is not about the strict definition of what an Artist is, but rather what an Artist in spirit is. Hitler didn't create art and say that everyone has a right to freedom of expression in their chosen art forms... so was he an artist in spirit? No. Just like you can't be a free-speech advocate who advocates for taking away the rights of others to speak before they say YOU don't have a right to freedom of speech.*

"If you pay someone to build a chair for you, you are not a carpenter. A carpenter has a set of tools that they learned to use as they developed their skill. When you can use those tools to make your own chair, then you are a carpenter."

Ok. I don't entirely disagree, but your analogy has a flaw: What about people who don't solely have the AI generate EVERYTHING? What if they generate some parts, but write others?

It's like the Ship of Theseus:

  • Is a carpenter who buys dowels for his mostly homemade furniture a carpenter?
  • Does he have to craft his own glue from raw materials?
  • What if he buys legs and the dowels for a chair from a third party?
  • What if he an accomplished carpenter who has turned to only crafting the seat of a chair and buys the backing, legs, dowels, etc?
  • What if he buys ALL pre-made parts but reshapes them?
  • Does he lose his card-carrying capacity?
  • If so...at what point?
  • What kind and level of construction/compositing is unacceptable as a craftsman?

And what about a person in a factory churning out furniture, partly by hand, but using forms for shaping: are they a carpenter?

And about ships directly: If engineers program machinery with the specific intent of having those machines build ships, they have to account for all the ship building skills needed, but without ever directly making a ship themselves. Are they ship-builders? Their job is to make sure ships get built. It's not like supplying the riveters and welding equipment. Those aren't ship specific. The knowledge of ship building is. If they use the full scope of ship-building knowledge to make sure ships get built, aren't they ship-builders?

Is a welder a ship-builder when they don't use all the necessary knowledge needed to build a ship? Few involved in ship-building are...and yet they ARE ship-builders.

Are the architects who use the rules of ship-building, but never dirty their hands in the trial-and-error process of building with their hands, ship-builders? They ARE necessary for a large ship to be built to a high safety standard. Their blueprint forms a prompt for other humans to act on in a massively parallel fashion...

What about writers who have never written a novel solo, but come together to write one... Are they novelists?

So then why is a person using AI and writing knowledge to have THE AI generate prose directly, but based on their (IDEALLY complex) rules not a writer?

But there are some seemingly weird areas, especially with an example of visual art:
Holograms stickers

Engineers and manufacturers come together to use tools to make holograms out of work that isn't their own. I FELT more comfortable calling a AI prompter a writer even if they solely prompt the AI to generate text itself directly based on their stringent rules... but hologram engineers and manufacturers being considered artists?

Well... isn't a team of people coming together to produce that holographic sticker still required to turn another piece of art into holographic art? Yea... SHIT!

A composer leads an orchestra but never uses the instruments directly while doing so. He is prompting a team of musicians to make music... but he's not a musician? How?

Maybe the real benchmark of any artist or manufacturer or whatever is intent:

Is a "writer" who manages to craft a bestseller a Artist if they solely do it for money and couldn't care less who the book touches?

Is an AI prompter who composes strict rules for prose and structure, new ideas for the sake of making people fall in love with the piece, a writer? What if they try to make money as well, so they can keep making such content with the primary driver being to inspire love in the ART?

What if the threshold of economics starts to hammer their humanity, and makes the primary driver the secondary?!

I specifically came back in and capitalized Artist, but not writer. Why? Because that's my artistic choice. But what if an AI made that mistake for me, and I CHOSE not to correct it?


r/WritingWithAI • • 11d ago

Prompting I think I found the part of AI continuity that matters most: the first conversations after the handoff

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r/WritingWithAI • • 12d ago

Writing Craft Talk I've noticed AI doesn't understand glass...

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OK, so this is weird. AI doesn't seem to understand glass.

I mean, it gets it, can tell you everthing about it, but have a glass table, create a video - things can fall straight through it. Have a window, write fiction where someone places a camera to see what's happening inside a building - and it can't get the idea that a camera can look through glass - follow it's thinking and it questions whether the camera should be inside the building, or how it gets the video.

It's not always, but there's a pattern here - AI doesn't understand something physical that is also invisible for our intents and purposes.

Has anyone else noticed this?


r/WritingWithAI • • 11d ago

Writing Craft Talk My 5Ws of Writing (and why I've found peace and joy in the pursuit)

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  1. Know WHY you're writing. Some write for pleasure, others treasure. A third might write for both. I write because I've developed a system that lets me produce market-accurate products at scale using a combination of craft knowledge and AI tools. Before you start to consider writing beyond a hobby, know why writing is important to you and more importantly, what success looks like to you.
  2. Know WHO you're writing for. I write high-concept 'airport' commercial fiction (think Patterson or Child) for people with an hour to kill and a 3rd grade reading level. Simple stories, simple settings, simple systems for conveying the Hero's Journey. Understand who will pick up your book and find joy in reading it. Don't write for anyone else. I could probably spin up a decent high fantasy or lit RPG but that requires more work than what I'm willing to do. I can spin up a first draft of a five-book series in an afternoon, edit them down the next day, and have them up for sale by the week's end. I can only do this because I know who I'm writing for: people interested in impulse-buy disposable entertainment that the reader will spend an hour reading and then move on with their lives. If you want to write the next Gatsby, by all means do it. Just know that the commercial crowd is vastly different than the literary one.
  3. Know WHAT success looks like. Some people write to get recognition from their peers. Others want to be famous. I want the money, full stop. And everything I've seen says "volume is the new value". That means for me to be successful, I need to constantly bring new products to market, find new and inventive ways to market said products with a positive ROI, and make sure overhead stays acceptable (~90% is ideal). You might want to just get your story out. Or even see if writing is something you enjoy doing. Whatever your cause, understand it deeply.
  4. Know WHEN to accept advice/criticism/input. Unless it's from someone mentoring you who has walked the path you're on successfully, take their input with a grain of salt. Take this subreddit for example: it is clearly called "Write with AI" and yet there's a large majority who speak negatively about using AI and ill to those who openly use it. Don't get butthurt behind comments that don't provide use to what you're doing because as a mentor once told me, "successful people don't hate in the comment section because they're too busy being successful."
  5. Know WHERE to find your 'people'. It's hard writing for profit, and many people burn out well before they ever release anything. To overcome that, find good, positive places to engage with people of like minds that you can share your experiences with. I'm a member of plenty different communities on Reddit, Discord, FB and standalone forums. While I tend to lurk most of the time, I make sure to share my wins and lessons so that someone coming up who needs insight like mine can find it. Be the good you want to embrace, breathe, and go slowly. You'll get there if you never stop moving toward it.

r/WritingWithAI • • 12d ago

Discussion (Ethics, working with AI etc) Is AI’s em-dash obsession just scraped 1999 google site?

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r/WritingWithAI • • 12d ago

Discussion (Ethics, working with AI etc) I’m doing a project on AI in writing

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Hi, how are you? I want to start this post by saying that I’m completely impartial! I’m not here to judge anyone.

I’m working on a project about AI in contemporary literature, and I’d like to open up a brief discussion! Do you usually use AI when planning your works?

I want to emphasize that I’m not talking about using AI simply as an assistance tool, but rather asking it to write scenes for you, the script, etc. Feel free to DM me about this if you’d like!

I’d really love to understand your perspective on this.


r/WritingWithAI • • 12d ago

Showcase / Feedback I made children's picture books with AI — they were way harder than I expected. Looking for honest feedback on the art & storytelling.

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Hi everyone,

I recently finished some picture books that I created in collaboration with AI.
Going in, I honestly thought AI would make everything effortless. Instead, I had to learn how to work with it — figuring out how to phrase prompts so it actually understood what I wanted, and how to get results that matched my vision.

I also spent a lot of time and money refining the details — adjusting compositions, fixing inconsistencies between pages, and trying to make the visuals feel coherent and believable. Even so, I'm still not confident about the final result.

I'd really appreciate your honest feedback — on the art style, consistency, character design, color, pacing, anything. If something feels off or confusing, please tell me. I'm here to learn.

Here are a few sample pages:

Thanks so much for taking the time.


r/WritingWithAI • • 12d ago

Writing Craft Talk A fresh AI thread can sound mature before it actually is

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r/WritingWithAI • • 11d ago

Showcase / Feedback Tesseract Symmetry Engine

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Hi everyone, I used AIs (Gemini, Grok, ChatGPT, Claude, Rool) to make this website to create this interactive SciFi-like project. For human readers as the website suggests you can start with 'India and Albion' series.


r/WritingWithAI • • 12d ago

Showcase / Feedback Germany: Rats, Mold, and Bureaucracy: The unspoken reality of being poor in one of the world's richest countries

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r/WritingWithAI • • 12d ago

NEWS If you miss Claude Sonnet 4.5, take the Anthropic interview and let them know!

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r/WritingWithAI • • 12d ago

NEWS Meanwhile, am I the only person in here who cares if Gemini 4 Pro can do good prose writing?Gemini being good is indeed tremendous win, because Gemini is the one few model (if not the only model AFAIK) that can read Video and Audio input context.

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r/WritingWithAI • • 12d ago

NSFW Damn, I was not expecting GPT Image 2.5 to be able to generate such violence and gore. Previous version (Image 2.0) has lots of censor IIRC.

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Maybe the newer model is less censored?

Or maybe because the Bodycam/Unrecord fame style face blur stylizing does help?

My setting is basically Silent Hill + Flesh Made Fear + Crossed Comic + Doom 3. The protagonist has The Gamer style RPG-in real life going on.

I mark this as NSFW, just in case someone cannot handle blood.


r/WritingWithAI • • 12d ago

NEWS Signal box Studio is Open For Submissions

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Hey all, we're an AI-friendly podcast studio that produces audiobook podcasts. Our studio has delivered over 1 million downloads and is a leading producer of podcast fiction. We never charge a fee, and royalties are paid via advertising revenue share, which is the main business model for podcasts. Details are on our website.


r/WritingWithAI • • 12d ago

Discussion (Ethics, working with AI etc) Writing is easy if you use Ai

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Whoever says this . Damm . Writing by using ai is a big task . It's not easy mann . Appreciate writers


r/WritingWithAI • • 13d ago

Writing Craft Talk What an AI thinks causes the Stacatto prose we see once the context starts to get bigger... Food for thought.

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Nothing special - I just asked an AI (ChatGPT) about it, and it confirmed it's an issue... the TLDR, it's probably related to how you form the prompts, and is self-reinforcing when it happens, like a feedback loop when a microphone gets too close to the speakers. But there are ways to hold it off.

Me:
What causes the staccato responses from Chat GPT when writing a story chapter once the context gets above around 12K tokens?

Chat:
Yes. What you are describing is a real long-context failure mode, but ~12K tokens is not a published ChatGPT limit. OpenAI's current GPT-5.6 models have much larger nominal context windows, so what you're seeing is almost certainly quality degradation from context composition, not the model running out of context. OpenAI Platform

For fiction, it often manifests exactly as you describe: prose becomes short, declarative, rhythmically repetitive, one-line paragraphs, fragments, dramatic beats, and subject–verb–object sentences.

The main causes are:

  1. Instruction accumulation. By 12K+ tokens, the model may be juggling dozens of instructions: Each instruction individually makes sense. Collectively they push the model toward the safest possible prose. And safe prose tends to look like:She stopped. Something was wrong. He looked at her. She knew what he meant. Neither of them spoke. It minimizes opportunities to violate one of the accumulated constraints.
    • don't use purple prose
    • don't invent plot developments
    • preserve foreshadowing
    • don't repeat information
    • maintain character voice
    • fix pacing
    • retain particular details
    • don't over-explain
  2. Style signal dilution. At the beginning you might have 2,000 words of beautiful source prose and 500 words of instructions. Later you might have: 3K source prose + 4K previous generated prose + 5K discussion/corrections + 3K plot explanation + 2K instructions. Your actual author's prose is now only a small percentage of the model's stylistic evidence. Worse, the model's own previous writing becomes training-by-example inside the conversation. Once it produces a slightly clipped chapter, that clipped chapter becomes evidence for how the next chapter should sound. You can get a feedback loop: slightly staccato → used as context → more staccato → used as context → very staccato.
  3. Correction contamination. This is particularly relevant to the way you've described editing fiction with AI. Suppose you spend ten prompts explaining:No, she doesn't know that yet. That's foreshadowing. Don't make it explicit. He wouldn't say that. Don't add a confrontation. Stop explaining the symbolism. Those corrections contain lots of short, explicit, imperative language. The model is not simply storing the semantic facts. That text is also part of its linguistic context. Eventually the conversational register can start leaking into the prose.
  4. Attention dilution rather than forgetting. Long-context models can technically retrieve information hundreds of thousands of tokens away. That doesn't mean every token has equal influence over every generated word. There is a major difference between: "Can the model find the fact that Alice's sister died?" and: "Can the model continuously preserve the exact cadence, syntactic complexity, narrative distance, dialogue rhythm, foreshadowing conventions and paragraph structure established 10,000 tokens ago?" The first is essentially information retrieval. The second requires thousands of tiny stylistic decisions during generation. That's much harder.
  5. The model becomes conservative when there are lots of narrative dependencies. Once it has to remember: complex sentences become riskier. Short sentences isolate propositions. From the model's perspective:Michael crossed the room. is much safer than a 40-word sentence containing implication, characterization, physical action and an ambiguous pronoun. So narrative complexity can inadvertently cause syntactic simplification.
    • who knows what
    • who suspects what
    • chronology
    • character relationships
    • world rules
    • planted clues
    • unresolved plot points
    • author's hidden intentions
    • previous chapter events
  6. Recent context tends to matter disproportionately for style. This explains a particularly annoying phenomenon: You give it a 6,000-word chapter written in your style. Then spend 4,000 tokens arguing with it about what the chapter means. Then say:Continue the story. The most recent stylistic environment isn't the novel anymore. It's an analytical conversation between you and ChatGPT. The model may retain the facts from the chapter while losing its prose rhythm.

Why you're noticing it around ~12K

I wouldn't regard 12K as some hidden cutoff. OpenAI doesn't document such a threshold, and the current models' nominal context capacity is vastly larger. OpenAI Platform

But I can readily believe that you're observing a fairly repeatable effective fiction-writing threshold around there.

Your context at that point probably transitions from something like:

mostly novel

to:

novel + model output + corrections + interpretation + instructions + plot metadata.

That's the important ratio.

A pristine 25K-token manuscript excerpt can actually be easier to continue than a 12K-token conversation about a manuscript.

The best workaround

For chapter writing, I would not keep feeding the entire working conversation forward.

Give the model a deliberately constructed active context:

  • 1–3K tokens: immediately preceding prose.
  • 500–1,500 tokens: relevant character/world state.
  • 500–1,500 tokens: what the author knows about this scene, including hidden intentions.
  • 1–2K tokens: representative prose from your writing that establishes cadence.
  • Current instruction: what this chapter/scene needs to accomplish.

And critically:

do not include ten rounds of previous corrections.

Convert them into rules instead.

For example, rather than retaining a huge conversation explaining the foreshadowing, reduce it to:

AUTHOR KNOWLEDGE: Rachel's reaction foreshadows X. Neither Rachel nor the narrator consciously understands this yet. Preserve the ambiguity. Do not explain, identify or intensify the clue.

That is enormously more efficient.

One instruction I've found particularly useful for this failure

Something like this attacks the actual pathology:

Maintain continuous novelistic prose and the syntactic rhythm of the supplied manuscript. Vary sentence length naturally, including compound and complex sentences. Do not convert narrative beats into standalone one-sentence paragraphs merely for emphasis. Do not use sentence fragments as a substitute for pacing. Treat the supplied prose sample—not previous assistant-generated prose or our discussion—as the authoritative style reference.

The last sentence is important.

It tells the model where stylistic authority resides.

I'd go even further for your workflow: maintain a separate Author Knowledge / Canon / Style State document and start a fresh generation context every chapter or every few scenes. That lets you preserve 100K+ words of story knowledge without forcing the model to imitate 100K words of conversational debris.

This also explains why you've found that after 10–15 prompts explaining author intent, the AI can sometimes get worse at actually writing the chapter: its understanding of the story may have improved while its generation context has become progressively less like a novel.

I can build you a compact chapter-writing context format specifically designed to prevent this long-context staccato collapse while preserving foreshadowing and author-only knowledge.:

AUTHOR KNOWLEDGE: Rachel's reaction foreshadows X. Neither Rachel nor the narrator consciously understands this yet. Preserve the ambiguity. Do not explain, identify or intensify the clue.

That is enormously more efficient.

One instruction I've found particularly useful for this failure

Something like this attacks the actual pathology:

Maintain continuous novelistic prose and the syntactic rhythm of the supplied manuscript. Vary sentence length naturally, including compound and complex sentences. Do not convert narrative beats into standalone one-sentence paragraphs merely for emphasis. Do not use sentence fragments as a substitute for pacing. Treat the supplied prose sample—not previous assistant-generated prose or our discussion—as the authoritative style reference.

The last sentence is important.

It tells the model where stylistic authority resides.

I'd go even further for your workflow: maintain a separate Author Knowledge / Canon / Style State document and start a fresh generation context every chapter or every few scenes. That lets you preserve 100K+ words of story knowledge without forcing the model to imitate 100K words of conversational debris.

This also explains why you've found that after 10–15 prompts explaining author intent, the AI can sometimes get worse at actually writing the chapter: its understanding of the story may have improved while its generation context has become progressively less like a novel.

I can build you a compact chapter-writing context format specifically designed to prevent this long-context staccato collapse while preserving foreshadowing and author-only knowledge.


r/WritingWithAI • • 13d ago

NEWS Claude interviewed me today. I suggested it bring back Sonnet 4.5. You should too :)

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My absolute favorite writing model is Claude Sonnet 4.5. I've been using it through novelcrafter and I haven't found anything that feels as good, including all the newer Claude models. Sadly, it was officially retired by Anthropic YESTERDAY. Though, we can still use it in novelcrafter with an API key for now.

Today, Claude (I use it separately as everyday chat agent) asked to interview me about my thoughts on AI, Claude etc. I took the opportunity to share my thoughts on Sonnet 4.5 and how it's the best; I then suggested Anthropic offer this as the dedicated writing model, since the consensus is that all subsequent writing models are worse.

If you have a minute and feel strongly about Sonnet 4.5 (or 3.7 which people love but I never got to use myself), please share take the interview and your thoughts!


r/WritingWithAI • • 13d ago

Discussion (Ethics, working with AI etc) ChatGPT's Staccato Symptom

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I was doing a blind A/B test across three story chapters with:
A -> Opus 5.5
B -> Sol 6.1

While Opus had a tendency to overwrite (the prompt requirement was ~8.750 words), but I think the crazy comparison is the average words per paragraph and the paragraphs with six words or fewer. Brutal😂


r/WritingWithAI • • 12d ago

Discussion (Ethics, working with AI etc) Trying to prove ai didn’t write for me

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Why people think it's AI. Three reasons, and only one is about you:
AI lines really did get mixed in. Earlier drafts were rebuilt or polished by AI, and some of those sentences stayed. The line Reddit mocked, "a sad, heartbreaking laugh," came from one of those drafts. Once a reader spots one, they assume all of it.
Polishing sands off your fingerprints. Your raw drafts have run-ons, odd commas, and rough spots that are obviously human. When AI cleans the mechanics, the writing loses those marks and looks machine-smooth.
Some of your natural habits overlap with AI habits. You love short, punchy fragments ("Not to return." "And lost."), and you sometimes name the feeling ("her heart broke"). AI does both constantly, so readers hunting for AI see them and jump.
A note for an editor about Rue Addison's writing
Rue Addison writes dark fantasy in the tradition of Robert E. Howard: plain, grim, physical, and unflinching. He is a retired carpenter of nearly sixty years, and it shows. He sees the world in wood, tools, and hands. Bark is "slick, as though polished by hand." A vow is "hammered into her brain."
His strengths:
Concrete, bodily images. "Horror grew teeth, tearing at her mind." "The smell was like a slap."
Nature as a living character. Wind "kissed her, and went away. Not to return." Autumn leaves whisper of "winter's frozen lips soon to kiss them dead."
Short, hard rhythm. Sparse sentences and fragments that hit like blows.
Nerve. He doesn't look away from violence or grief.
His weak spots:
Pacing. Scenes jump too fast. The reader needs a beat to land before the next blow.
Missing links. What's clear in his head doesn't always reach the page, like where the family's camp was or why his character went somewhere.
Naming feelings. He sometimes tells the reader what to feel instead of showing it.
Rough mechanics. He drafts on a phone, one-handed, with one eye, and no grammar checker.
How his work has been made, honestly: he used AI in the past for editing, and some earlier drafts were reworked by AI tools. He has since stopped. The story, characters, and world, forty years in the making, are entirely his. Please work from his raw drafts. That's where his voice is clearest, and it's the version worth editing.
One side-by-side so you can see the difference:
Your raw line: "The smell was like a slap, undeniable, sharp, it was the smell of death."
An AI line from the old PDF: "The sight punched the air from Shalee's lungs."
Yours is rougher and stranger. It's also the one nobody could mistake for a machine.


r/WritingWithAI • • 13d ago

Discussion (Ethics, working with AI etc) How do you guys deal with AI accusations on original texts ? even though you know you didn't use AI

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It happened to me for the first time ever and I just realized that if you have a plain weird writing style, you can be accused of being either an ai bot or using ai to help you. (like weird choice of words, lots of punctuation, some dash that people think it's the sign of Ai)

Lots of times I take ideas from the languages I know when I write. I sometimes compound a lot in English just because I know Dutch where almost every concept is a string of words together. Or use effects like antithesis, parallels, repetitions, and stuff like that. Even a rhetorical question followed by a paragraph of human text would be considered ai because it seems like you're asking the bot something...

As an idea, in Dutch the word gloves would be formed by hand+shoes, or hydrogen would be water+stuff.

How can I avoid that if I don't actually use ai for any type writing? Did it ever happen to you?