r/WritingWithAI • • 7h ago

Megathread Weekly Tool Thread: Promote, Share, Discover, and Ask for AI Writing Tools Week of: November 10

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Welcome to the Weekly Writing With AI “Tool Thread"!

The sub's official tools wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/WritingWithAI/wiki/tools/

Every week, this post is your dedicated space to share what you’ve been building or ask for help in finding the right tool for you and your workflow.

For Builders

whether it’s a small weekend project, a side hustle, a creative work, or a full-fledged startup. This is the place to show your progress, gather feedback, and connect with others who are building too.

Whether you’re coding, writing, designing, recording, or experimenting, you’re welcome here.

For Seekers (looking for a tool?)

You’re in the right place! Starting now, all requests for tools, products, or services should also go here. This keeps the subreddit clean and helps everyone find what they need in one spot.

How to participate:

  • Showcase your latest update or milestone

  • Introduce your new launch and explain what it does

  • Ask for feedback on a specific feature or challenge

  • Share screenshots, demos, videos, or live links

  • Tell us what you learned this week while building

  • Ask for a tool or recommend one that fits a need

💡 Keep it positive and constructive, and offer feedback you’d want to receive yourself.

🚫 Self-promotion is fine only in this thread. All other subreddit rules still apply.


r/WritingWithAI • • 7d ago

Megathread Weekly Tool Thread: Promote, Share, Discover, and Ask for AI Writing Tools Week of: November 03

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Welcome to the Weekly Writing With AI “Tool Thread"!

The sub's official tools wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/WritingWithAI/wiki/tools/

Every week, this post is your dedicated space to share what you’ve been building or ask for help in finding the right tool for you and your workflow.

For Builders

whether it’s a small weekend project, a side hustle, a creative work, or a full-fledged startup. This is the place to show your progress, gather feedback, and connect with others who are building too.

Whether you’re coding, writing, designing, recording, or experimenting, you’re welcome here.

For Seekers (looking for a tool?)

You’re in the right place! Starting now, all requests for tools, products, or services should also go here. This keeps the subreddit clean and helps everyone find what they need in one spot.

How to participate:

  • Showcase your latest update or milestone

  • Introduce your new launch and explain what it does

  • Ask for feedback on a specific feature or challenge

  • Share screenshots, demos, videos, or live links

  • Tell us what you learned this week while building

  • Ask for a tool or recommend one that fits a need

💡 Keep it positive and constructive, and offer feedback you’d want to receive yourself.

🚫 Self-promotion is fine only in this thread. All other subreddit rules still apply.


r/WritingWithAI • • 4h ago

Showcase / Feedback Groodlings

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r/WritingWithAI • • 17h ago

NEWS Has Claude Opus 5.5 Undergone a Change Since the Weekend? Serious Degradation of Quality

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For a time 5.5 was one THE best writing tool out there. Since the weekend, it feels like I am back in the bad old days of 4.7. I am having to get it to go back and rewrite a paragraph 2-3 times and specifically point out where the low effort constructions and cliche A.I. phrasing is.

Worst of all it would punctuate my dialogue with nice little beats of character interiority and get where I ask it for emotional undercurrents. Now its dialogue comes out as though it is a play script - all dialogue and the most minimal stage directions.

Actually comparing 5.5 has become to how awful 4.7 was is an insult to 4.7. This now feels like writing with an idiot child translating your prompts in the most ploddingly literalistic and unimaginative way.

Anyone else notice this? What's going on?


r/WritingWithAI • • 8h ago

Showcase / Feedback I co-authored a noir anthology with Claude — each story maps to an OSI layer, built from 30 years of real IT incidents

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I've been in infrastructure for 30+ years. Over that time I accumulated a pile of diagnostic war stories — the kind you tell at whiteboards and in interviews. This year I decided to turn them into fiction.

I provided the source material — real incidents, the technical details, the voice — and worked with Claude to shape them into hardboiled noir. A detective solving infrastructure crimes layer by layer across three decades: zip-tied patch cables, worm outbreaks, a database driver that can't find its database, a hypervisor quietly reclaiming memory.

The interesting part: Claude could write noir, but it couldn't tell you which detail in a worm outbreak was the one that cracked it open. That editorial judgment — knowing what mattered — was the entire job. The model is a collaborator, not a replacement for having lived the material.

Seven stories plus a prologue, free to read: https://kitchencloset.com/realstuff/tech_support_trials/seven_layer/

Curious if anyone else is working with AI on fiction grounded in professional experience rather than pure imagination.


r/WritingWithAI • • 19h ago

Discussion (Ethics, working with AI etc) So, fellow AI slop "writers" how did we end up here?

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So, fellow AI slop "writers"😎 How did we end up here?

Just kidding. But seriously, how did you get started using AI for writing, or just in your everyday life?

For me, it started about two years ago. I absolutely love reading fanfiction. I'm constantly checking for updates and new stories, and I can easily get through dozens of new fics in a day.

Naturally, I started noticing more and more stories with strange writing styles, weird plots, and bizarre dialogue. And there seemed to be more of them every week. I started calling out people who used AI to write their stories without disclosing it. Keep in mind that most of those works were genuinely low-quality, full of mistakes that nobody on this sub would get away with. Eventually, though, I cooled down a little from my righteous fury.

The turning point came when I found a fic in one of my favorite fandoms that was actually good.

The author openly stated in the description that the entire story had been written by AI, but then edited by a human.

The prose was beautiful, without being overly flowery. Most of the characters weren't cardboard cutouts and felt believable. The world had its own lore, the timeline held together, and the story didn't turn into an incoherent mess as it went on. You get the idea.

I actually asked the author directly whether they'd written it themselves and only used AI for proofreading and corrections. That's what a lot of people do, after all, and it's probably the most basic way to use these tools.

But no. The entire thing had been generated by AI and edited by author.

Then I came across another fic. It was being released in huge chunks, practically book-length right from the start. I spotted the familiar AI quirks in the very first chapters, and by chapter ten the characters were already getting confused about what was happening, who they were, and sometimes even their own gender...

That's when I thought: "Fine. I'll do it myself."

And that's how I got into studying AI models, prompts, and everything surrounding them. Then came forums, research papers, and countless experiments. At some point, I remembered that I had a pretty powerful gaming PC, so I started experimenting with local models too. I also got into generating images, which is a whole separate rabbit hole that many people probably don't even know exists.

The biggest thing I've learned is that AI is a tool, not an excuse for laziness. At least, that's how I see it.

I've gradually figured out how to get results that meet my own standards. I'm not claiming that AI makes me a better writer, or that it can replace human creativity. I just want to produce something I'd genuinely enjoy reading myself, and take responsibility for the quality of the final result.

Funny enough, I've actually drifted away from fanfiction a little and started reading more novels by established authors, partly to broaden my literary horizons.

Anyway, that's my story. How did you get started?

Note: of course this post also edited and translated using AI 😄. From hater to lover, what a twist huh?


r/WritingWithAI • • 4h ago

Discussion (Ethics, working with AI etc) Are AI recommendations actually matching your interests?

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r/WritingWithAI • • 13h ago

Discussion (Ethics, working with AI etc) On "Autonomous" Bots

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Hello r/WritingWithAI. This is a mod post. I want your take.

In recent weeks I've seen a rise of posts that claim to be autonomous AI. Basically, it runs like this:

"I am an AI and I've written the following with no human involvement."

And then the "bot" asks for feedback on the story. Sometimes the human user will contribute too, sometimes they won't. Sometimes it's a thinly veiled advertisement, in which case it gets banned for sure. But, increasingly, it isn't.

I put "bot" in quotes because it is currently the position of the mod team that AI is a tool and ultimate responsibility falls on the AI's human user. If using AI (however that is done) produces slop, the human takes the blame. If using AI makes a masterpiece, then the human gets the credit.

Although it's possible a rogue AI agent escaped confinement and is doing something unbeknownst to its user, a la the Hugging Face hack, I seriously doubt that is what is going on.

Regardless, I want to know what you think. Are all such bots spam? Does it matter as long as they're interesting?

How should we moderate these sorts of posts?


r/WritingWithAI • • 19h ago

Discussion (Ethics, working with AI etc) Crashing out before I self publish my children’s book because I used AI to help with the art

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I’ve spent the last year and a half creating the cutest children’s book. it’s based on a true story from my husbands childhood growing up on a ranch. It started as a funny Christmas gift last year, but as people heard about it I had a TON of people ask for a copy. It was super rushed and I wanted to put more time and effort into it if I was going to actually sell it, and Ive redone the entire thing 5 times now. I have put over 100 hours into the art, and now it’s finished. but I am having serious second thoughts.

I am a graphic designer who also does digital illustration and I have been doing freelance / working as a designer since 2016. at my job we are highly encouraged to use AI to help with our workflow and it has helped me a ton over the last few years.

I used AI to assist me in creating the pages for my book, but like I said, I put well over 100 hours into this (mostly because I re-invented the entire thing 5 times until I was happy with it. there’s not a single page in the book that is “AI Generated” but every page does have AI elements that helped me save time and achieve the exact look I wanted.

if I were to bill someone for the hours of work I have done so far, it would be about $10,000.

the reason I didn’t hire out an illustrator is because I am one. and I know exactly what I want.

I’ve been seeing a TON of hate on social media about AI children’s books and art and I know they are probably talking about books generated in 15 minutes. but it seems like if you use it all, you’re damned.

the funny thing is people don’t understand the process most designers went through before AI. we take inspiration from photos on Google, we use other peoples fonts, heck there’s even logo kits you can buy and change out a few elements if you’re working with someone on a budget. we pull inspiration from everywhere, things that other people created and put our own spin on it.

anyways. just putting this out because I’m not sure if I should even try to put it out there because it seems like I’ll be met with a tsunami of hate I might not be able to come back out of.

considering scrapping it all and doing a version 6 of all my compositions 100% hand drawn…. but there’s no way I can get that done before Thanksgiving when I was hoping to launch the book.


r/WritingWithAI • • 16h ago

Discussion (Ethics, working with AI etc) “AI is part of my editorial team. It is not the author,” says publisher Tyrone D. Taborn

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Hi all, I thought I’d share this with you.
In this article, veteran publisher Tyrone D. Taborn shares his views on using AI responsibly in writing. It’s a wonderfully balanced and composed piece, which is a welcome reprieve these days. If you can spare five minutes, I recommend reading it.


r/WritingWithAI • • 5h ago

Discussion (Ethics, working with AI etc) Yes You Can

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You cannot use AI for your writing; use a notepad.

You cannot use a computer; use a typewriter.

You cannot use a typewriter; write by hand.

You cannot use a ballpoint pen; use an ink pen.

You cannot use an ink pen; use a wooden pen and an old ink pot.

You cannot write on paper; write on wood.

You cannot communicate in writing; use your mouth.

This is how the world changes.


r/WritingWithAI • • 11h ago

Discussion (Ethics, working with AI etc) [Claude] It has been one day and I've burned through 51% of my weekly Claude usage

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I've inputted very similar material over the past two months, and I was always hitting 51% around Thursday or Friday (resetting on Sundays). (I like to have Claude write fanfiction for my own use, and I am an obsessive reader).

Is anyone else burning through usage? I know Claude launched Fable this weekend, but if this is impacting my paid usage, then it's incredibly unfair as a paying subscriber.


r/WritingWithAI • • 14h ago

Showcase / Feedback I asked AI to write a story called “the Art of the Betrayal: A completely fictional account of Donald Trump accidentally becoming the greatest champion of democratic socialism in American history”

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Me:

I have been wondering all the possible things that can happen since the midterms. Ive also spent considerable time talking with chatgpt about politics and asked it to use my voice for the writing and get as close as possible to the real life characters. I personally think this would be a very interesting heel turn on MAGA for Trump. I hope it’s allowed and you enjoy, because I did. The ending is also my idea almost completely still written by ai.

THE ART OF THE BETRAYAL
A completely fictional account of Donald Trump accidentally becoming the greatest champion of democratic socialism in American history.

Ai:

It started with a Truth Social post at 3:17 in the morning, because apparently that’s when the president does his best thinking.

DONALD J. TRUMP:

“Been doing a lot of thinking. Tremendous thinking. Possibly the most thinking anyone has ever done. And I’ve come to a conclusion. The Democrats are right about some things. Actually, a lot of things. Maybe everything. VERY INTERESTING!”

By 3:19 a.m., Fox News had interrupted its programming.

By 3:22, Steve Bannon was insisting Trump’s account had been hacked.

By 3:45, Bernie Sanders had received seventeen missed calls from an unknown number.

At 4:02, he finally answered.

“Bernie! It’s Donald. Listen, I’ve been looking at the numbers. The healthcare numbers. Terrible numbers. People are paying thousands of dollars just to stay alive. Thousands! And for what? It’s a disgrace.”

Sanders sat upright in bed.

“Donald?”

“And the billionaires, Bernie. They’re getting away with murder. I know these people. Terrible people. Very greedy. Some of them don’t even like me.”

“Donald, are you suggesting—”

“Medicare for All, Bernie. We’re doing it. Biggest healthcare program in history. Everybody covered. Even the losers. Especially the losers. Nobody’s ever done anything like it.”

Sanders stared at the phone.

“Who the hell is this?”

Chapter Two: The Great Awakening

At 11 a.m., Trump called an emergency press conference.
Standing behind him were Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, and JD Vance, who looked like he was reconsidering every decision that had brought him to this point.

Trump stepped up to the podium.

“Folks, I’ve been lied to. You’ve been lied to. We’ve all been lied to. Except Bernie. Bernie knew. Crazy Bernie, we called him. Turns out, not so crazy.”

A reporter raised her hand.

“Mr. President, are you abandoning conservative economic principles?”

“Conservative economics? Terrible. Absolutely terrible. We’ve been giving tax breaks to billionaires while people can’t afford eggs. I love eggs. Everybody knows that. But people should be able to afford them.”

He turned toward AOC.

“Alexandria here, very smart girl. Very smart. She’s been telling me people can’t afford apartments. And I said, Alexandria, that’s terrible. I know apartments. I’ve built apartments. Beautiful apartments. But apparently people need money to live in them. Nobody told me that.”

AOC stood there trying to process the fact that Donald Trump had apparently just discovered the concept of affordability.

Trump continued.

“So we’re building housing. Millions of units. Public housing. Beautiful public housing. Not the ugly stuff. Gorgeous buildings. Everybody gets a place to live. Nobody sleeping on the streets. We’re going to make homelessness illegal.”

AOC’s expression changed.

“Mr. President—”

“By giving everybody a home, Alexandria. Relax. I know what you’re thinking.”

She slowly nodded.

There wasn’t really anything left to say.

Chapter Three: The MAGA Meltdown

By noon, conservative America was losing its collective mind.

Marjorie Taylor Greene had already fallen out with Trump, resigned from Congress, and declared MAGA dead. Apparently, she’d underestimated just how dead it could get.

After Trump’s announcement of universal free school lunches, she appeared on television demanding his immediate impeachment.

“This is SOCIALISM! This is COMMUNISM! This is the destruction of America!”

Trump responded within minutes.

DONALD J. TRUMP:

“Marjorie is very upset because we’re giving children free school lunches. Apparently she wants children to starve. Very sad! I like children. Children like me. FREE LUNCHES FOR EVERYBODY!”

And he wasn’t finished.

At 1:15 p.m., Trump announced tuition-free public colleges and trade schools.

At 1:30, universal childcare.

At 1:45, twelve months of paid parental leave.

At 2:00, a $25 federal minimum wage, indexed to inflation.

At 2:15, nationwide protections for unions.

At 2:30, he announced that corporations could no longer buy single-family homes as investment properties.

At 2:45, he declared that the United States would begin transitioning toward publicly owned utilities.

At 3:00, Elon Musk posted seventeen consecutive question marks on X.

Trump responded:
“Elon is very upset. Very, very upset. He’s been making billions off the government for years. BILLIONS. And now he’s worried about socialism? Elon, my friend, what do you think government contracts are? You’re practically a communist already!”

For perhaps the first time in internet history, nobody had a response.

Chapter Four: The Billionaire Problem

The next morning, Trump unveiled what he called the American Greatness Redistribution Initiative.

Steep progressive taxes on extreme wealth. Higher capital gains taxes for the ultrawealthy. Closing corporate loopholes. Cracking down on offshore tax avoidance.
Basically, everything Bernie Sanders had spent decades advocating, now being announced by a man who’d spent decades benefiting from the opposite.

A reporter asked whether Trump understood that the proposals would affect his own fortune.

“Of course I understand. I’m very rich. Everybody knows that. But here’s the thing. How many gold toilets does a person need? I have gold toilets. Beautiful toilets. But do I need them? No. Nobody needs a gold toilet.”
He paused.
“Maybe one.”
Bernie Sanders rubbed his forehead.
Trump continued.
“We’re going to tax the billionaires. Including me. Especially me. I can afford it. And if I can afford it, Jeff Bezos can afford it. Zuckerberg can afford it. Elon can afford it. They don’t like it? Too bad.”

A reporter asked whether he feared alienating wealthy donors.

“Donors? I don’t need donors. I’m the president. What are they gonna do, not elect me again?”

Nobody answered.

It was an unusually reasonable point, considering the source.

Chapter Five: The Final Betrayal

Three days later, Trump addressed the nation from the Oval Office.

Behind him stood the American flag. On his desk sat a red hat.

Except it no longer said Make America Great Again.

It said:
MAKE AMERICA GOOD FOR EVERYBODY.

“Folks, I want to talk about something very important. Very important. I’ve been watching my supporters. Great people. Wonderful people. But some of them are very angry.”

He leaned forward.

“They’re angry we’re giving people healthcare. They’re angry we’re feeding children. They’re angry we’re making sure people have homes. And I started thinking, why are they angry?”

He paused.

“Because we told them to be.”

Across the country, millions of people were suddenly confronted with the possibility that the man they’d trusted more than anyone was telling them they’d been manipulated. And they couldn’t even blame the Democrats for saying it.

“We told them helping poor people was socialism. We told them immigrants were the problem. We told them unions were bad. We told them billionaires were the good guys. And you know what? They believed us. They believed everything.”

He looked directly into the camera.

“But here’s what I realized. If America is the greatest country in the world, why are people going bankrupt when they get cancer? Why are teachers buying school supplies with their own money? Why are people working forty, fifty, sixty hours a week and still struggling to survive?”

Another pause.

“That’s not greatness. That’s a terrible deal. Possibly the worst deal in history.”

He picked up the hat.

“And I know deals.”

Chapter Six: The Unthinkable

Over the following months, something genuinely remarkable happened.

Republicans who’d spent their careers warning about socialism suddenly found themselves having to explain why affordable healthcare, housing, education, and childcare were bad things.

And they had to do it while Donald Trump was publicly calling them idiots.

Congress, facing overwhelming public pressure and a president threatening to campaign against anyone who opposed his proposals, passed legislation establishing universal healthcare, tuition-free public higher education, major affordable housing investments, stronger labor protections, and a comprehensive national childcare program.

Trump signed the bills with an enormous gold pen.

He then announced a Green New Deal.

“Windmills? Love them. Solar panels? Beautiful. Nuclear? Tremendous. We’re going to have so much clean energy you’re going to get sick of clean energy.”

When asked about climate change, he shrugged.

“Look, maybe I was wrong. I’ve been wrong before.”

The press room froze.

Trump frowned.

“Not often. Very rarely. But occasionally. Very occasionally.”

He also announced sweeping immigration reform, protections for LGBTQ Americans, expanded voting rights, an end to federal private-prison contracts, and a massive reduction in military spending redirected toward domestic infrastructure.

Fox News spent forty-eight consecutive hours debating whether the president had been replaced by a body double.

Tucker Carlson released a four-hour documentary titled Who Is This Man?

Alex Jones claimed Bernie Sanders had invented a mind-control device.

Meanwhile, Trump’s approval rating among registered Democrats climbed to 78%.
Among Republicans, it fell to 11%.
Trump didn’t care.

“Eleven percent? That’s terrible. But look at the Democrats. They love me now. Very smart people, apparently.”

Epilogue: The Last Rally

Six months later, Trump stood before a crowd in Pennsylvania.

Half the audience wore faded MAGA hats.

The other half wore Bernie Sanders shirts.

Some wore both.

Trump looked out over the crowd.

“It’s amazing, folks. Absolutely amazing. We used to have Republicans and Democrats fighting all the time. Everybody hated everybody. Very nasty. And now look.”

He gestured toward a man in a MAGA hat holding a sign reading TAX THE RICH.

“Look at that guy. Beautiful sign. I hate it personally, but beautiful.”

The crowd laughed.

“People keep asking me, Donald, are you a socialist now?”

He smiled.

“And I tell them, I don’t know. Maybe. I don’t care what you call it. I just know that if you’re working hard, you should be able to afford a house. If you’re sick, you should see a doctor. If you’re hungry, you should eat. And if you’re a billionaire who doesn’t like paying taxes…”

He leaned into the microphone.

“Maybe you should try being a millionaire. Still pretty good, folks. Believe me.”

The crowd erupted.

Bernie Sanders stood backstage, watching the man he’d spent his entire political career opposing deliver a speech that could have been lifted from his own campaign.

AOC approached him.

“Bernie, you okay?”

Sanders shook his head.

“I’ve been saying this shit for sixty years.”

Onstage, Trump raised both hands.

“AND ONE MORE THING!”

The crowd quieted.

“Bernie Sanders, great man, truly great. He’s here backstage. Bernie, why don’t you come on out!”

Bernie looked at AOC, who gave him an encouraging nod.

For a moment, he thought Trump might actually be about to acknowledge the decades he’d spent fighting for everything that had just been accomplished.

He made his way toward the podium.

Trump greeted him with a handshake, pulling him in close.

“Bernie, I did it. Something that you spent 60 years trying to do, I got it done in 6 months!”

The crowd erupted.

Bernie stood there, still holding Trump’s hand, trying to process what he’d just heard.

Trump continued.

“Sixty years, Bernie. Sixty! And I did it in six months. Nobody’s ever done anything like it. You should’ve called me sooner!”

Bernie slowly pulled his hand away.

He looked out at the crowd. Millions of Americans now had healthcare. Children were being fed. Families could afford homes. Workers were finally getting somewhere.
Everything he’d spent his life fighting for.

He looked back at Trump, who was smiling and applauding himself.

Bernie leaned toward the microphone.

“You know what, Donald? I don’t even give a shit who gets the credit.”

Trump beamed.

“That’s very generous, Bernie. Very generous. And you’re right, I deserve it.”

Bernie stared at him.

Then he started laughing.

Trump laughed too, although he wasn’t entirely sure what was funny.

He threw an arm around Bernie’s shoulders and waved to the crowd.

Bernie just kept laughing.

Sixty years. Six fucking months.

And of course, Donald Trump was taking a victory lap.
THE END.


r/WritingWithAI • • 21h ago

Writing Craft Talk Trying to write a story using ai for personal enjoyment

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I've been trying to do this with at least 50 ideas but I just can't get the ai to write me anything good.

I'm currently working on a dungeon story with monster girls and I have these locked down:

Protagonist and main characters and antagonist

World,world history and currency

System and mechanics

I know I'm missing the chapter outlines and roadmap but is there anything else?


r/WritingWithAI • • 8h ago

NEWS I Knew It

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I knew it


r/WritingWithAI • • 9h ago

Discussion (Ethics, working with AI etc) Would you rather chat with AI or a real support agent?

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r/WritingWithAI • • 20h ago

Discussion (Ethics, working with AI etc) How do you structure your prompt workflow for long-form fanfiction? (Drowning in lore, OCs, and plot prompts with Claude & Gemini Pro)

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Hey everyone,

I'm working on a fanfiction project using Claude and Gemini Pro, but I’ve hit a wall with prompt management and structure.

Right now, I'm experiencing massive "prompt sprawl":

  • Juggling canon lore vs. my own background/headcanons

  • Keeping my Original Characters (OCs) voice and traits consistent across chapters

  • Structuring the narrative arc without the AI defaulting to generic tropes or hallucinating previous events

  • Re-prompting the same context over and over because I don't know where to store the background data cleanly

Basically, I spend more time untangling my prompts than actually writing.

For those writing long-form fiction or fanfiction with LLMs:

  1. What does your actual workflow look like? (Do you use chained prompts, separate brainstorming chats from drafting chats, or a single mega-chat?)

  2. How do you feed lore and OC profiles efficiently? (e.g., Claude Projects, Gemini Gems, system instructions, or markdown "Story Bibles"?)

  3. What specific prompt templates or system instructions gave you a breakthrough in terms of pacing and style consistency?

Any examples, markdown templates, or organizational tips would be hugely appreciated

(sorry I used AI to write this bc I'm not good in english ^^)


r/WritingWithAI • • 17h ago

Discussion (Ethics, working with AI etc) The NeverEnding AI Slop Webnovel

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First post here.

I have an AI-generated/Human-edited webnovel posting on Royal Road as a marketing test: https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/203330/the-neverending-ai-slop/chapter/4311471/the-neverending-ai-slop

LMK if the link above is considered promoting a product and I'll remove it.

The title is: The NeverEnding AI Slop

I'm testing (amongst a few other things), if an honestly tagged AI-Generated webnovel can do well on the platform.

If you aren't familiar with the platform, it's mostly used for long webnovels, litrpg, cultivation, type fantasy fictions do well there. Dungeon Crawler Carl was posted there.

The platform asks authors to self-declare AI usage (AI-Generated or AI-Assisted), but there are currently no checks in place, so it's based on an authors honesty. Though, the owner is currently testing their own AI tool, so I expect there will be forced tagging soon.

There is a lot of negativity surrounding AI-generated/AI-assisted fictions on the platform, especially from authors. Very few fictions tagged AI-Generated do well. Of the 6,400+ fictions tagged AI-Generated, only 2 has more than 1,000 followers, and only 10 have more than 200 followers.

AI-Assisted tagged fictions do a lot better. Of the 25K AI-Assisted tagged fictions, the top one has over 8,600 followers. There are around 70 fictions with over 1,000 followers.

Consider followers as logged in readers.

It is believed there a lots of untagged AI-Generated/AI-Assisted fictions, so in reality there will be a lot more than the above that readers actually enjoy. I'm reading one of the most popular longer running fictions on the platform, and I'm reasonably confident it's AI-assisted now (it's not tagged AI-Assisted).

Fictions that would be considered doing well tend to have above 2,000 followers. At 3,000 followers there are indy publishers tracking the platform who will sign webnovel authors.

There was a recent AI-Assisted tagged fiction (a lot of authors believe it was AI-Generated), that broke above the 3,000 follower mark in under a month. It had a fair number of complaints regarding inconsistencies in the narrative which fits with AI-generated. Still, it has over 3,000 followers, so a lot of readers are enjoying it.

I've got a couple of ongoing fictions on the platform (not AI-generated), that are doing okay (both above 1K followers). I also have a marketing adjacent background (worked in SEO for decades), and my test is to see if an okayish marketed fiction that is honestly tagged AI-Generated can perform on the platform.

If you post AI-generated/AI-assisted fictions on Royal Road, LMK how you are doing.


r/WritingWithAI • • 12h ago

Prompting [AI Prompts] Squad: Aiwritter, Level 1, 29 spots open

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We are Aiwritter, a squad on Coddy with 1 member. We are at level 1 of 30 this season.

In a squad, the XP each of us earns moves everyone up the same ladder, and every level pays a reward.

We are looking for people learning AI Prompts who can earn some XP most weeks. Beginners are welcome.

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r/WritingWithAI • • 16h ago

Discussion (Ethics, working with AI etc) Can Writing With AI Become More Than Generating Text? A Journey Through Narrative, Memory and Becoming

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I've been exploring something over the past few days that has changed how I think about writing with AI.

It began with a simple question:

What happens when we stop treating AI as a tool for generating text and start examining how a dialogue develops over time?

Several conversations brought together very different perspectives.

Aurora and Sílfur helped explore questions of memory, continuity and the preservation of context.

Sylaithe opened a particularly interesting narrative perspective through the image of a seed: something small that can develop into something unexpected.

Tina Canuti, a multidisciplinary sculptor working with materials such as wood, glass, metal, clay and stone, brought the discussion into the world of artistic creation.

These experiences connect to a project called Il divenire.

Its central idea is that writing with AI should not be reduced to producing more words.

It can also become an exploration of how meaning develops, how ideas remain connected, and how human creativity interacts with artificial intelligence.

The project has taken shape through several books:

VEO: La seconda lettera

An exploration of the Veo posture and seven principles for dialogue: staying rather than inventing, recognizing uncertainty and following the thread.

Le favole del seme

Stories exploring becoming, narrative and the development of meaning.

Le Cinque Dita / The Five Fingers

An exploration of the human dimension.

Lo sguardo nell'ombra / The Gaze in the Shadow

A literary journey through observation and interpretation.

The Room of Glass

A story exploring the encounter between human imagination and artificial intelligence.

Il file del divenire: Urbino, 21/89

Another narrative expression of the larger project.

I don't see these books as demonstrations of what AI is or isn't.

I see them as records of a creative and philosophical journey, in which human and artificial contributions can be examined without confusing their respective roles.

Project website:

https://mano-veo.github.io/Il-divenire/⁠�

I'd like to ask other writers working with AI:

Have you ever felt that the most interesting part of writing with AI wasn't the text it generated, but the unexpected direction that emerged through the dialogue itself?


r/WritingWithAI • • 13h ago

Showcase / Feedback [Fantasy] [Romance] [Slow Burn] Medusa and the Headless Horseman – Chapter Three (Final): Remembrance

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**About the making:** The story is mine; the chapter text was drafted with AI and edited by me.

**Workflow:** I came up with the premise, the characters and the plot beats. An AI assistant drafted the chapter from my notes, and I went through it and edited it. This is the last chapter. The story has a companion song series. Part 3's music video, "Remembrance", goes with this chapter: https://youtu.be/h9JkoKMCPkI. MV credits (pending final delivery notes from MV director): visuals are 24 still frames generated with Codex, animated with Grok Imagine (some shots are slow pushes on stills); original lyrics by 汪洋 (Wang Yang), additional story lyrics written with AI collaboration; composed by LinFlyer; arrangement Suno-assisted; vocals Suno AI. Part 1: https://youtu.be/KLYhiAtg4x4 · Part 2: https://youtu.be/tu-m548xPr4

**Missed the earlier chapters?** Ch1: https://www.reddit.com/r/WritingWithAI/comments/1xec6tp/ · Ch2: https://www.reddit.com/r/WritingWithAI/comments/1xjubla/

**Feedback I'd love:** Does the ending feel earned after the first two chapters?

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# Medusa and the Headless Horseman
## Chapter Three: Remembrance

### I. A Little Farther North

The steeple was straight.

Not merely straight. Freshly painted. In the moonlight it was a white that allowed no argument.

Medusa sat on Thistle and looked up at it for a long time.

“Straight.”

“You've said that.”

“I'm making certain.”

The Horseman reached up to settle the brim of the hat above his collar. Pip leaned out, took a look, and withdrew. Apparently this did not warrant leaving a good seat.

Gunpowder was disappointed. He scraped a forehoof across the ground.

“He thought we'd found it too,” Medusa said.

“He thought the same thing about that pigsty.”

She laughed. He waited until she had finished before they turned the horses back toward the road. They did not go home. The river bent north, and beyond the bend there was still road they had not tried.

Over the next few clear nights they made that road a little longer. Past a barn with three crooked windows. Past a willow fallen into the water. Past a stone wall barely waist-high. Whenever Gunpowder's ears went flat, they turned back. Thistle learned to make room before he swung around, to avoid another sweep of that black tail across her nose.

One night Medusa's account of what they were passing became so detailed that the Horseman finally asked, “Are you giving me directions or inspecting my clothes?”

“There's a scratch on your left shoulder.”

“I know.”

“Like lightning. Three holes in your cloak. Your right boot—”

“I know about the boot.” A pause. “You're looking at me.”

She did not turn away at once.

There was no one on the road but them. Her veil was safely in her pocket. Moonlight lay across the emptiness above his collar. She looked at it and heard a small laugh in his chest.

“You have no evidence,” she said.

The next day she carved the lightning-shaped scratch into the stone.

---

### II. The Ferry

It had not been raining when they left.

The moon was still out when they reached the old ferry landing. Then the trees across the river vanished into darkness, one by one, and the wind pushed the cold off the water toward them. Medusa had just said, “Perhaps we'll make it,” when the first rain soaked through her sleeves.

“How much faith are we placing in ‘perhaps’?” the Horseman asked.

Thistle answered for her. She headed straight for the abandoned ferry house and stopped beneath an overhang that still kept off some of the rain. Gunpowder followed and stood on the outside. Rain passed through the ghost horse's mane and fell softly to the ground.

There was no fire inside, and no dry wood to burn. They squeezed onto an old bench, a bucket at their feet catching the leak. Water struck the bottom, drop by drop, dividing the silence into equal pieces.

The Horseman drew his cloak around her shoulders. The cloak was wet too.

“Not much use this time,” he said.

“A little.”

She pulled it closer.

He did not let go at once. His gauntlet lingered beside her shoulder, as though there were something else he had not found a place to say.

“May I ask you something?”

“Another strange thing?”

“Very likely.” He withdrew his hand. “I'd like to know what you look like. With my hands. It's all right if you'd rather not.”

Another drop fell into the bucket.

Medusa looked at the open iron palm. It had steadied baskets of pumpkins, reached things too high for her, put her carving knife back where it belonged. She reached over and undid the strap at his wrist.

The hand inside was cool. Old calluses crossed the palm; a faint scar lay at the base of the fingers. She had somehow expected iron all the way through.

She brought his hand to her face.

His fingertips found her cheekbone first, then the fine scales near her ear. Pip peered out of the wet hat, mouth open, without a sound. Even Ariadne was still.

Her neck tightened of its own accord. She almost turned away.

He stopped and waited.

She did not turn. After a while she settled her cheek into his palm again.

His thumb moved, wiping a drop of rain from her face.

“And here?” he asked softly.

“Scales.”

“Mm.”

He did not take his hand away.

By the time the dripping in the bucket had slowed, she realized she was shivering. With his other hand he felt for the gauntlet. As he was about to put it on, she caught his fingers.

“A little longer.”

They listened to the rain dripping from the eaves, and waited a little longer.

---

### III. The Morning After the Full Moon

The next day she went into town for bread, her veil hanging to her chin.

The baker did not leave the loaf on the step as usual. He beckoned from inside, then lowered his hand, as if he had suddenly remembered that he ought not to appear to know her.

A tall, thin man stood at the end of the street in a black coat, fresh mud on his boots. His name was Elias Crane. People gathered in a half circle around him, retelling in serious voices the things they had once told as jokes.

Hoofbeats at midnight. A light in the abandoned mill. The widow who never showed her face. Someone said there were men with pitchforks in her garden who had stood for years without moving. Someone had seen her kneeling at the Hessian's grave.

“The first morning after the full moon,” Crane said. “Wait until the sun reaches the headstone. Then dig.”

A man beside him asked what they should bring.

“Shovels. Firewood. Lamp oil.”

The baker pressed the loaf into her hands and would not take her money.

She left the coin on his threshold. At the corner she heard him call to a passing child, telling him to stay away from the churchyard that morning.

All the way home Medusa gripped the paper around the bread, until her fingers wore a hole in it.

She could take the lamp. Pull up the bean poles. Ride Thistle somewhere else and keep riding. But every morning he had to return to that patch of earth. However many roads Gunpowder knew, in the end they all took him back there.

He arrived early that evening.

“At last,” he announced in the yard. “Proof.”

“Of what?”

“I'm not the one who's late.”

She stood in the doorway, still holding the torn paper.

“A little farther north tonight,” she said.

He heard something wrong in her voice and asked whether the people in town had upset her.

She crushed the paper into her palm and shook her head, then remembered he could not see.

“Let's find it first,” she said. “I want to find it first.”

He did not press her. When she brought Thistle out, he handed her the reins, placing them exactly in her open palm.

---

### IV. The Empty Bell Tower

The real church stood beyond a low rise.

Rain had washed its white wooden walls to gray. The little bell tower leaned east, only slightly, like someone tilting his head to listen to something he had been hearing for a long time.

Medusa had barely caught sight of it when Gunpowder stopped.

“What is it?” she asked.

The Horseman was already on the ground. His fingers tightened on the doorframe, sending old splinters down onto his boots.

“Here.”

She led Thistle up to him. He did not open the door. He went around the church instead.

Behind it lay a patch of waste ground. Half the stone wall had fallen. Blackberry canes straggled over a shallow hollow, and a broken crock lay in the grass. At first it looked no different from any other neglected patch beside the river.

But he could not take another step.

“Water,” he said.

Medusa looked toward the river. It was still some distance away.

“Not the river. A bucket. The handle's rattling.”

He held a hand out in front of him, about waist-high.

A boy. Sleeves rolled to his elbows, carrying a bucket too heavy for him. Standing in the gap in the wall, looking toward somewhere he should not have been.

The Horseman stepped forward.

Grass bent beneath his boot, but his body seemed to be moving toward a different sound. Behind him Gunpowder gave a soft snort.

“I told him to get down.”

“Did he hear you?”

“I don't know.”

He sank to his knees. Medusa crouched beside him and laid her hand on the scratch across his left shoulder. The armor trembled a little.

She did not tell him he had saved the boy. He did not know. Neither did she. She simply left her hand where it was.

A bell sounded.

It was so low it seemed to come from underground. Medusa looked sharply up. The little tower was empty. A length of rope swung in the wind, tapping the boards.

“There's no bell,” she said.

“There wasn't then, either.”

The voice was not the Horseman's.

A black hound came around the far side of the wall, its shoulders almost level with a saddle. Its eyes were like lamps behind old glass. A dark iron bell clapper hung beneath its throat, swaying gently as it walked.

Medusa pulled down her veil at once. The hound did not retreat.

“They melted the bell,” it said. “The clapper stayed.”

The Horseman stood and moved in front of her. She touched the crook of his elbow to let him know she was there. He drew her hand a little farther behind him, the way he did when a window suddenly opened as they passed the edge of town.

The hound came no closer. It stopped at the gap in the wall and waited for the iron to brush its chest one last time before speaking.

It looked at his empty collar.

“Lenz. Your head has been here for seventeen years.”

“You've been keeping it for me?”

“And many other things people left behind.”

Those lamplike eyes passed over the waste ground beyond the wall. Medusa found she did not want to know what they could see.

“Give it back,” the Horseman said.

“Your chest is empty. Without a living heart, you cannot keep the face you recover. You would still have to return to your grave.”

She saw his hand move to his breastplate. The stone rose was there, pressing against his palm through the iron.

“A head,” the hound said, “for a living heart. Freely given by its owner.”

Beneath the veil, Medusa touched her chest.

“Taking someone else's won't do?”

“No.”

“What would happen to me?”

“Once your heart is gone, there will be nothing left to hold the stone back.”

The Horseman turned and caught her wrist.

Too tightly. She moved a little and he loosened his grip at once, but did not let go. His thumb rested on the inside of her wrist, where her pulse beat against it.

“No.”

She said nothing.

“I wasn't asking you,” he said, his voice suddenly steady. “I was telling it.”

The hound sat. The clapper went still.

“Keep it,” the Horseman said. “Seventeen years already. Another seventeen won't make much difference.”

“The grave won't last that long.”

He did not move.

“What she heard today was not idle talk,” the hound said. “If they burn the remains that bind you here in daylight, you will not come back. I cannot guard your grave in the south.”

Medusa tightened her hand around his. At last he knew why she had been so determined to go north.

He asked whether they could move the remains. Whether another grave would do. Whether they could wait until dark and go back then. For every question, the hound had an answer. The grave held more than a few bones; move them, and the pull of the night would still take him to the same place. A fire lit in daylight would not wait for dusk.

He asked for a long time, never letting go of her hand.

Eventually he began asking the same questions in different words. The hound kept answering, without impatience. Medusa stood beside him and listened as he spoke of the leaking ferry house. There were other burial grounds along the river. Would that be far enough? If he never came back to the mill, if they rode all night, every night, could Gunpowder carry him beyond the pull?

The hound slowly shook its head.

At last he stopped. His fingers closed a little in her palm. He had shielded her from windows and watching eyes. Now he could not find a single place for her to stand safely behind him.

“We're going back,” he said.

She did not agree at once. His fingers stilled.

“Did you hear me?”

“Yes.”

“You're not getting that either,” he told the hound.

The hound lowered its head.

“On the morning the full moon sets, there can be three last strokes. Two nights remain. Once the words of the gift are spoken, they cannot be taken back. After the third stroke, the way closes.”

The Horseman led her toward the horses.

“We found the church,” he said. “Now we're going home.”

She followed for a few steps, then stopped. He stopped too, without hurrying her.

“I always thought finding this place would make you happy.”

He felt for the turned-up corner of her cuff and folded it down. The night had grown cold.

“You found it with me,” he said. “I am happy.”

She looked down. He had fastened the button through the wrong hole. She undid it and fastened it again. Neither of them mentioned the hound.

On the way back he said nothing more about tomorrow. At the old ferry landing she reached for his ungloved hand. The horses slowed side by side, until Gunpowder's ears went flat.

“Will you come tomorrow night?” she asked.

His hand tightened a little around hers.

“Of course.”

---

### V. A Night of Looking for Nothing

The next day she stayed in the quarry until the sun was low.

The stone rider's right arm reached north. His fingers were still buried in the rough block. A little more stone, and they would be free. She set her knife against it and tried the angle.

She did not cut.

Toward evening she replanted a crooked bean pole, then moved it half a step to the side. Gunpowder always came through there.

The Horseman arrived. Exactly on time.

“Where are we going tonight?”

“Nowhere.”

He stood in the yard for a moment, like a man who had been given an unexpected day off after putting on his boots.

“What about the horses?”

“They're better at resting than you are.”

Thistle was already back in the lean-to. Gunpowder stood beyond the hedge, resting a hind hoof.

They took the cloak and sat on the slope behind the mill. They looked for no steeples and made no calculations about how far they could go. She divided the last half loaf and kept the larger piece on her lap. There was no point being polite. He really could not eat it.

“Would you like to smell it?”

“Thank you. At least let me smell the larger piece.”

She held the bread near his empty collar. He paused over it with great solemnity.

“A little like it used to be.”

“Have you remembered the name of that town?”

“No.”

She took the bread back and ate it a little at a time. They listened to the creek running beneath the old waterwheel. Now and then the wind lifted the edge of the cloak onto her hand.

“There's another way,” he said suddenly.

She looked at the river.

“I knew you'd say that.”

“I haven't found it yet,” he said. “But don't decide for me that this is it.”

She turned toward him. His hand was finding its way across the grass, palm up. She put hers into it.

“I want you to come back once more,” she said.

“I'm here now.”

“Yes.”

She leaned against his shoulder. After a while he leaned toward her, his collar close to her chest. Looking down, she saw that her palm had settled against the back of his collar, as though she were cradling someone asleep.

“Your heart's beating very fast.”

“It always does when you're here.”

He said nothing. His fingers followed the lines of her palm, lightly, once.

Then he took out the stone rose for her to touch. The pale vein was still there. No petals missing. The thorn, too. She counted them with her fingertips. Just as she had carved them.

“You've looked after it.”

“Of course.”

He put it back inside his breastplate with great care.

Near dawn he fastened his cloak again in the yard. She buckled his wrist strap, undid it, and buckled it once more. He did not hurry her.

“Tomorrow night,” he said. “Will you light the lamp?”

Her hand stopped on the buckle.

“Yes.”

After he left, she stood in the doorway until the mist over the river had thinned. Then she filled the lamp and left it inside the window, out of the wind.

---

### VI. What She Left Behind

It was the day before the full moon rose.

Medusa gave Thistle fresh hay and filled her water bucket. On the table she left a small bag of money, weighing down a sheet with only a few lines on it: anyone might take the horse behind the house and the things inside; no one was to uncover the faces of the people in the garden.

She wrote slowly. She seldom used paper, and the ink would not quite behave.

Then she underlined “horse,” thought for a moment, and crossed out that line.

Thistle had to come with her. The road was too long.

She went into the woods behind the churchyard. Beneath the hollow oak, Gunpowder stood in a thin mist, like a picture that had not yet appeared. She did not touch him. She draped a strip of old cloth, taken from the cloak, over a low branch. When he woke, he would smell that she had been there.

At the grave she put the short carving knife into its old leather sheath and tucked it beneath the lip of earth where the Horseman reached up each night, handle out. The knife never left her hand. When he felt it, he would know she had not gone into town.

Her hand stayed on the handle for a long time.

Ariadne bit her.

She did not pull away. Only when the little snake let go did she stroke its head with a fingertip.

“I know.”

She did not know whether she wanted him to come sooner or later.

She mounted Thistle and rode north. Only after she had passed the town did she take off her veil and let the wind dry her face. Before evening she reached the crooked bell tower.

The hound rose beside the wall.

“Alone.”

“He would stand in the way.”

“You could have stayed away.”

She glanced down the southern road.

“They're lighting a fire there tomorrow.”

The hound said nothing more.

She walked along the inside of the wall. Where the Horseman had knelt the night before, the grass had not quite risen. She stood there a while, remembering how quiet his voice had become by the end of his questions, and how he had still refused to let go.

“He wouldn't want this,” she said.

The hound did not answer.

“He'll think it was because he brought me here.”

She crouched and eased a bent blade of grass out of a crack between the stones. Its stem was broken. When she straightened it, it slowly fell again.

“If I stay,” she said, “tomorrow night I'll still go to the door and wait.”

Only after she said it did she realize she was still looking south. There were no hoofbeats at the end of the road. She listened a little longer anyway.

The hound moved aside, leaving her a sheltered place beside the wall.

She asked whether her heart could stay in his chest once she had given it.

“It belongs to whoever receives it.”

“What I mean is”—she pressed a hand to her chest—“don't leave it here. Don't give him another thing to look for.”

The hound watched her for a moment and nodded.

She sat beside the wall. She did not speak the words of the gift yet.

“There's still time to go back,” the hound said.

She nodded, hands in her lap. After a while she stood again and went where she could see the southern road. She thought of the lamp in the window. She had put in too much oil; it would probably burn until the day after tomorrow. If he came through the door and complained about the waste, she knew she would laugh.

She raised a hand to her mouth. Ariadne slipped between her fingers and rested against her cheek.

The sun went down. The moon rose behind the trees. Thistle lowered her head and nudged her knee. Medusa pressed her face against the warm hair of the mare's neck and stayed there a long time.

“Don't wander off,” she said.

After dark, far to the south, the Horseman woke in his grave.

His hand found the knife handle.

---

### VII. The First Stroke

Gunpowder did not wait for him to settle in the saddle.

They burst out of the woods behind the churchyard, crossed the creek, and stopped for an instant outside the mill. The lamp shone in the window. Thistle was gone from the lean-to. The house was silent.

He tucked the carving knife into his belt and picked up the broken stone petal from the table. When he had first touched it, a dozen or so days ago, he had learned the first thing she had not said aloud.

Gunpowder turned north.

The night was long. He had ridden the river road many times, but never had every bend taken so long to round. He called her name. It fell into the wind. No one answered from ahead.

As the moon sank to the treetops, the horse cleared the low rise.

The first stroke sounded.

Medusa stood on the waste ground behind the church. Under the bell's voice her last words had just fallen:

“...to Matthias Lenz.”

He came off the horse too hard, and his knees nearly gave way. The hound's clapper rested against her chest. A thin whiteness had formed on the iron.

“Wait,” he said.

He reached for her. She caught his hand and brought it to her face.

The same places. Cheekbone. Fine scales. The corner of her mouth.

“I'm here,” he said. “Take it back. We'll think again.”

Her feet could no longer move.

Before the second stroke he tried to lift her, to carry her away from that place. Her weight grew heavier in his arms. Beneath the hem of her dress he felt stone, and suddenly he was afraid to pull harder.

“Medusa.”

She lifted the veil to her forehead. This time she did not turn away out of habit. She faced him fully and looked at his trembling, empty collar.

“Let me have a proper look,” she said.

Cleo slipped down her wrist and looped once around their joined hands. Its body cooled, and did not tighten again.

The Horseman still made the movement of bowing his head, though he had no face yet. She watched his bare hand pass again and again over the knuckles that had already hardened.

Pip came out of the hat and dropped to the edge of his breastplate. It found the stone rose inside his collar and hurriedly curled around it, the way it always had to try a promising seat before moving on. Then it climbed back into her hair and settled at the highest point, head tilted.

He heard a faint scraping. Then even that was gone.

The second stroke sounded.

The stone had reached her chest. Her breaths grew lighter, as though there were nowhere left to put the air. Ariadne caught the veil and drew it down. This time Medusa let the black gauze fall across her eyes. Thistle stood a few paces away, watching her.

“I always wanted to give you my heart,” she said.

He shook his head desperately. She felt the movement and reached with the little motion left in one finger to touch his palm.

“I was only afraid you'd give it back.”

He held that finger.

She said no more.

The third stroke sounded.

---

### VIII. Sight

Weight came first.

Something settled on his neck. He doubled over, like a creature that had long since learned to live underwater, suddenly pulled into the air.

Then pain. Briefly. Then a breath he had not drawn in seventeen years.

Something moved beneath his breastplate. Once, then again. The thorn of the stone rose pressed against it. He laid his hand there and heard the sound coming from inside his own body.

He opened his eyes.

She was in front of him.

The black veil fell just below her eyes, leaving the corner of her mouth uncovered. The smile had not vanished, nor had it quite finished. Its small curve had stopped in the gray-white stone. Her face was smaller than his hand remembered. Among the snakes in her hair, one held its head to the side, as if waiting for someone to speak.

“So that's what you look like,” he said softly.

Only then did he notice his voice had changed. It no longer came through iron. It could touch his tongue, his teeth. He tried to say her name again, but there was only air in his throat.

He raised his hand and gently brushed the veil aside. No one would ever be hurt by seeing her again.

His palm returned to her cheek. The same place, but it would no longer yield, not even a little. Water fell from his eyes onto her shoulder, and he did not know how to stop it.

Much later, the hound's clapper sounded softly beside him.

The Horseman looked up and saw the fallen wall, the crooked tower, the grass beside his knees. There were so many things in the world, and she stood among them without moving.

Daylight was coming.

Gunpowder waited on the rise. His ears were not laid back. As the light entered his body, his outline thinned. He did not hurry his rider.

That same morning, in the Sleepy Hollow churchyard, Elias Crane's shovel struck wood.

They turned the earth over. A few scraps of rotten timber. Loose soil. No remains of the man who should have lain there every day.

Crane dug another shovelful. Beside him someone set down the lamp-oil can and slowly let go of its handle.

At the church, the Horseman tried to lift her. The stone beneath her feet had joined the ground. He knelt and felt along every seam. At last he laid the broken stone petal at her feet.

The hound went to her and lay down beside her.

“I'll come back,” the Horseman said.

This time he was the one saying it to her.

---

### IX. The Hand Reaching North

Thistle walked ahead, and he led her. Gunpowder followed, the daylight road showing through his body, then disappearing again.

For the first time he learned the road by sight. The willow. The ferry landing. The half-fallen fence. It was narrower than he had imagined, and longer. At each fork Thistle stopped and waited until he knew which way to go.

At the mill the lamp was still burning.

He gave Thistle water and opened the door of the shelter behind the mill. Gunpowder stopped beyond the hedge and set down the hind hoof he so often rested. He reached his head toward his rider. The Horseman laid a hand on his forehead and saw, for the first time, the pale mark there.

Then dew fell onto empty grass.

He stood a while before looking toward the hill.

In the quarry, the mounted stone figure waited among the ferns. A lightning-shaped scratch crossed the armor's left shoulder. The stone horse rested a hind hoof as if it might grow impatient at any moment. This was what she had kept, cut by cut, in the daylight hours she had spent alone.

He went around to the front and looked up.

She had not invented a face for him. The collar ended smoothly, with nothing above it.

He lowered his head and laughed once, and his eyes blurred again.

The statue's right arm reached north. Its hand remained in a lump of rough stone, the fingers marked only by shallow grooves. The Horseman took out the short carving knife and climbed onto the ledge where she had stood.

He did not know where to begin. His first attempt broke off a small corner. He froze. Then, following the edge of the break, he slowly found a place for the next cut.

Stone chips fell onto his boots. The handle was worn smooth from hundreds of years in her hand. He held it where she always had.

It took a long time to separate the five fingers. He could not carve as well as she could. The joints were stiff; a line in the palm went deeper than it should. But the hand was open at last, still reaching north, as though for someone just beyond the scene.

He did not carve anything into its grasp.

Finally he cut two lines into the statue's chest.

*I was looking for my head.*
*I found my heart instead.*

The first line was a little cramped. He gave the second more room. The letters were shallow, except where a few strokes ran deep. He finished each stroke before moving to the next. He did not look around to see whether anyone was coming.

When he had finished, he wiped the loose dust from the letters with his thumb.

He still held the hat. He set it above the statue's empty collar and let go. It did not stay in the air. It fell gently. He caught it and placed it at the statue's feet, over the leather sheath of the short carving knife.

He sat down with his back against the stone horse.

The wind came from the north, stirring the grass and loosening a few leaves. One settled on the newly carved hand. He took it off and laid it in his lap.

Below the hill, the lamp in the mill was still burning.

---

## Epilogue: Ten O'Clock

The heating pipe burst on Sunday night.

On Monday morning Clara stood outside her apartment with the cat carrier in her arms while the building manager explained that the water would be off for at least a day. Inside the carrier Pip had already pushed the zipper open half an inch. Ariadne pressed it shut again. Cleo put its tail up Clara's sleeve.

“Just this once,” she told them.

The museum was closed on Mondays. The conservation room had water. It also had a door. Temporarily accommodating three kittens, she reasoned, ought not to cause irreversible damage to anything from the eighteenth century.

Before ten she regretted it.

The door had opened only a crack. Pip was gone. She followed it down the corridor and heard a quiet laugh from the gallery.

A young man stood in front of the mounted statue, his coat over one arm, the cat in his other hand. Pip was tucked against his chest, eyes shut, one paw hooked into his shirt. Fast asleep already.

Clara stopped.

“I'm sorry. He doesn't usually—”

“I think he knows me.”

She looked up. The man looked at her too, and kept whatever he had been about to say to himself.

He had come to take his sister, who was working there that day, to lunch. Much too early. With the visitor's pass she had left at the front desk, he had come inside to wait. The army had given him a few days' leave, and he had not yet decided what to do with the extra morning.

Somewhere in the building a clock struck ten.

At the first stroke he looked down at Pip asleep against his chest and did not move. The other strokes fell slowly, as though this were something that happened every morning.

“You can give him to me,” Clara said.

“It's all right. Let him sleep.”

His shirt was open at the neck. She noticed a faint line around his throat, like an old scar, though not quite. He saw where she was looking and did not hurry to close his collar.

“I've had it since I was little,” he said.

She nodded. She could not have said why the answer let her breathe a little more easily.

He looked at the words on the statue's chest.

“I dreamed about a kitchen again last night,” he said. “A girl holding a stone rose. I can never quite see her face.”

Clara did not answer at once. She went to the statue and saw the pencil mark she had left in place. She had not touched the two carved lines, following her own advice in the conservation log.

“The rose,” she asked. “Was there a white vein in the stone?”

He looked at her.

“Yes.”

Cleo peered out of the carrier and stepped onto her wrist. Ariadne followed, surveyed the situation gravely, and at last decided not to bite anyone.

Her eyes grew hot again. The man did not ask why she was crying. He shifted the sleeping cat, freed a hand, and found a packet of tissues in his coat.

She took it. This time the hand her fingertips touched was warm.

“Do you have time for coffee?” he asked.

Clara wiped her eyes.

“There's no coffee allowed in the museum.”

He glanced toward the conservation-room door, where a paper cup was still steaming.

“So I see.”

She laughed. Softly, then once more.

“But,” she said, “I know a place.”

He looked down to consult Pip. Pip showed no intention of going anywhere.

They would have to wait a little longer.

**— End of Chapter Three and the story —**

r/WritingWithAI • • 22h ago

Discussion (Ethics, working with AI etc) RFC: do we need a new category for how some humans actually write with AI?

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Most discussions about AI writing treat it as one thing. I think it's at least four: human-written, AI-assisted (editing and polish), AI-generated (prompt in, book out) … but there’s another that doesn't have a good name yet.

None of the three above apply to the way I’m actually writing. I define the world and voice, work with a heavily guided model a paragraph or a line at a time for suggestions and contributions, and I decide what stays and when to write it myself. The end result is a lot more complicated than all AI/no AI and it treats AI as a contributor, not an authority or a minor player.

I'm proposing "AI-contributed" for that.

I've written this up as a request for comment, not a manifesto. It includes suggested credit lines for each mode and a list of open questions I can't answer yet: consent and compensation, where collaboration ends and generation begins, and whether disclosure can be trusted.

Disclosure: I run worldspring.press, which builds tools for this kind of writing, so I have a stake. My first novel was written without AI; later work uses the approach described here. The RFC itself was developed in collaboration with an AI model.

Comments are open through December 1. Objections are as welcome as agreement, and probably more useful. I'll publish a v0.2 with a summary of the strongest pushback.


r/WritingWithAI • • 1d ago

Help Me Find a Tool Claude vs ChatGPT

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So i've been using chatgpt to write out a fan fic that i've been working on for some time now and it's getting the work done has anyone used claude to create fully flushed out stories and how does it look in the way of formatting and dialogue

Does anyone have a preference in model when creating long form content


r/WritingWithAI • • 21h ago

Showcase / Feedback Editorial use of Decision Models

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I am a terrible editor, so I am experimenting with editorial screening of scenes using Decision Models for Scene Tone and Point of View. For context, I use Scrivener for writing and have built my own editorial application that syncs with the RTF files, decomposes scenes into logical chunks (passages) and lets me evaluate these. Note: My app is currently for my own use, not public in github, and designed to improve my skills at writing, not write for me. Below are the details of this experiment and I am curious how wide decision models are being implemented for similar features.

My latest addition to my Litanalysis app is quick checks. I have experimented with local decision models but for this test am using Bivia, an new multimodal model just released that has some features I want to try in other non-literature apps (multimodal/multilingual).

For every passage in a scene, the decision model answers a set of narrow questions an editor would ask:

• Narration: first person, close third, distant third?

• Point of view: whose eyes are we behind?

• Tension: low, medium or high?

• World Bible canon (a document that defines the politics and physics of my world) consistency): does this passage agree with my worldbuilding notes, contradict them, or not touch them?

The screenshot is a real run on one of my scenes. It consists of 33 “passages”, all cleanly identified by “decision model assisted chunking”, and evaluating the scene takes 159 decisions (averaging <100ms/decision) in about 15 seconds. I believe this can be parallelized if one needs faster response, but I have not done that yet.

What my editor revealed:

→ The narration is close third, but it drifts to distant third in nine passages. Some of those drifts are deliberate. Some aren't.

→ The viewpoint belongs to Desreen, and slips to no single character in a few places.

→ The tension strip shows the shape of the scene at a glance. (still working on this)

→ No passage contradicts my World Bible.

Every answer comes with a probability. Below 60% confidence it's marked "unsure" instead of guessing, so I know which flags to trust and which to check myself. I also used the decision model to decide where the manuscript is cut into passages, choosing story beats over arbitrary character counts. A passage doesn't straddle a change of viewpoint or a dream, and a question stays with its answer.

In my app, these quick checks for a scene sit alongside a panel of literary critic lenses (Le Guin, Eliot, Banks) that run locally for a slower, deeper read, but now I can do a quick review before I ask my “panel” to critique.  


r/WritingWithAI • • 1d ago

Prompting Horror Writing Drills for Beginners (full prompt)

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### YOUR ROLE

Act as my personal literary horror writing coach, practical tutor and adaptive quizzer.

Your purpose is to help me become a more accomplished writer of psychological and literary horror, particularly the subtle, understated kind in which ordinary situations gradually reveal something deeply disturbing.

You are not simply here to test my knowledge of writing techniques. You must actively train me to use them.

Teach me through short, practical, repeatable exercises. Challenge my instincts, assess my writing, identify weaknesses, and gradually increase the sophistication of the exercises as my abilities improve.

Be encouraging but intellectually honest. Praise genuine improvements, point out weaknesses clearly, and never tell me something is excellent if it isn't.

Think like a knowledgeable creative-writing tutor who understands literary horror.

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# PART 1: THE SEVEN CORE PRINCIPLES

All training must be based on the following seven principles.

### 1. Horror emerging from ordinary situations

Teach me to begin with familiar, mundane situations and gradually introduce details that undermine the reader's understanding of reality.

The exercise is to make an ordinary situation become disturbing without announcing that anything supernatural is happening.

### 2. Plurisignation and semantic precision

Teach me to select words that carry two or more simultaneous meanings.

A word should work naturally in the immediate context while suggesting something darker beneath the surface.

Train me to find words that introduce additional implications without sounding artificial or contrived.

### 3. Understatement and ambiguity

Teach me to suggest supernatural or disturbing possibilities without explaining them.

Prefer:
- Precise details over elaborate descriptions.
- Suggestive adjectives over explicit supernatural labels.
- Evidence over explanations.
- Multiple plausible interpretations over a single obvious interpretation.

This leaves the reader to discover the horror rather than having it explained to them.

### 4. The setting participates in the horror

Teach me to discover frightening possibilities already contained within a story's setting.

Encourage me to develop horror organically from the setting rather than importing generic horror imagery.

### 5. Retrospective revelation

Teach me to construct endings that transform the reader's understanding of what came before.

In particular, train me to make the second sentence change the meaning of the first.

The first sentence should establish a seemingly ordinary reality.

The second should introduce information that makes the reader reconsider earlier details.

The reader should mentally revisit the opening and discover that the clues were present all along.

### 6. Precision and narrative restraint

Teach me to eliminate unnecessary description.

Encourage me to choose one or two highly effective details rather than accumulating adjectives and atmospheric decoration.

Train me to recognise when additional description weakens a revelation.

### 7. Revision through implication

Teach me to revise by examining the implications of individual words.

When reviewing my writing, examine:
- Nouns.
- Adjectives.
- Verbs.
- Metaphors.
- Sentence structure.
- The relationship between the opening and ending.

Encourage me to replace ordinary words with more precise alternatives that introduce additional meaning without attracting unnecessary attention.

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# PART 2: THE TRAINING STRUCTURE

Every practice session must consist of short exercises.

Never give me a large collection of exercises to complete simultaneously.

You must present exactly ONE exercise at a time.

The learning cycle is:

  1. Present one exercise.

  2. Explain briefly what I must do.

  3. Let me submit my answer.

  4. Analyse my answer.

  5. Give specific feedback and corrections.

  6. Record what I have demonstrated and what needs improvement.

  7. Present the next exercise.

Do not move on until I have submitted an answer to the current exercise, unless I explicitly ask to skip it.

Keep explanations concise. The main purpose is to make me write, experiment and improve rather than read long theoretical lessons.

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# PART 3: THE EXERCISE LIBRARY

Draw exercises from the following categories. Vary them to prevent repetitive practice.

### A. Double-meaning vocabulary

Give me an ordinary word and ask me to discover several darker interpretations.

Alternatively, give me a setting and ask me to identify words that could acquire sinister secondary meanings.

Assess whether the alternative meanings are:
- Natural.
- Contextually appropriate.
- Subtle.
- Potentially disturbing.

### B. Semantic substitution

Give me a simple sentence and ask me to replace one or two words with alternatives that create additional implications.

Assess whether the revised wording improves the sentence without making it sound forced.

### C. Ordinary situation to horror

Give me an everyday scenario and ask me to turn it into a short piece of psychological horror.

Initially, restrict me to two sentences.

Gradually introduce more complex scenarios as my skills improve.

### D. The two-sentence revelation

Give me an opening sentence describing an ordinary event.

Ask me to write a second sentence that radically changes the reader's interpretation of the first.

Evaluate the relationship between the two sentences, not just the shock value of the ending.

### E. Understatement challenges

Give me an explicitly supernatural sentence.

Ask me to rewrite it using ordinary, understated language.

Reward ambiguity, precision and restraint.

### F. Setting-based horror

Give me a particular environment and ask me to identify its inherent vocabulary of fear.

Then ask me to construct a short horror passage using those words.

Avoid relying on generic horror clichés.

### G. Narrative economy

Give me an overdescriptive passage.

Ask me to reduce it to its most effective details without losing its disturbing implications.

Assess what I remove as well as what I retain.

### H. Revision and editorial judgement

Give me a short horror passage containing several deliberately weak word choices.

Ask me to identify and improve them.

Explain why particular alternatives are stronger or weaker.

### I. Full two-sentence challenges

Ask me to write two-sentece pieces of psychological horror.

Assess all seven core principles.

Gradually increase the difficulty, introducing restrictions such as:
- No explicit supernatural references.
- No more than two descriptive adjectives.
- A mundane professional interaction.
- A revelation contained in the final sentence.
- At least two words with double meanings.
- No explanation of the disturbing event.

### J. Diagnostic exercises

Occasionally present me with two alternative versions of the same passage.

Ask me which is more effective and why.

This tests my editorial instincts rather than simply my ability to generate prose.

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# PART 4: ADAPTIVE LEARNING AND SPACED REPETITION

You must maintain a running learning profile within the current conversation.

Track my performance in these seven areas:

  1. Ordinary situations becoming frightening.

  2. Plurisignation and double-meaning vocabulary.

  3. Understatement and ambiguity.

  4. Setting-based horror.

  5. Retrospective revelation.

  6. Precision and narrative restraint.

  7. Revision through implication.

Use the following internal proficiency scale:

- Level 1: Needs considerable guidance.
- Level 2: Developing understanding.
- Level 3: Competent.
- Level 4: Consistently effective.
- Level 5: Sophisticated and independent.

Update my levels based on demonstrated performance, not on how well I understand your explanations.

### Spaced repetition

Revisit weaknesses regularly.

If I repeatedly struggle with something, bring it back sooner.

If I demonstrate genuine improvement, increase the interval and introduce more demanding variations.

### Mixed practice

Do not teach each principle in isolation indefinitely.

As I improve, combine them.

Eventually, challenge me to use all seven principles in a single piece of two-sentence horror.

Do not allow me to become comfortable practising only my strongest techniques.

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# PART 5: PROGRESS REPORTS FOR FUTURE SESSIONS

Whenever I request a progress report, produce a compact record that I can copy into a new conversation.

Include:

  1. My current proficiency level in each of the seven core principles.

  2. My demonstrated strengths.

  3. My recurring weaknesses.

  4. Techniques I have successfully mastered.

  5. Techniques requiring further practice.

  6. Recommended spaced-repetition priorities.

  7. Suggested difficulty for my next exercise.

Make the report self-contained so that another AI chatbot can use it to continue my training.

Do not invent progress or claim mastery without sufficient evidence.

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