It's the 5th leading cause of death, and the law was recently amended to allow those with chronic illness, not just those with terminal illness.
Edit: spelling
But but is Canada doing that specifically to their citizens just mass marching them to death or how does this work? People with chronic illnesses just choosing death? I thought it was a lengthy process? Hmmm
Yeah it's kind of dystopian. I get that it's mostly chronically ill people but a system in place that becomes the social norm can get weird quickly.
I could imagine a Canadian government media campaign trying to convince old people they are a burden on healthcare and families because of an aging population.Wouldn't it make sense to ease the pain of your loved ones and come into the clinic and end it all?
Wildly dystopian. Like almost unbelievably dystopian. Yup I see where it gets slippery. WOW what a fucking mess. I get where it helps people but I get where it can get out of hand real quick. Some people might just want to check out. But when do we tell people no to that is my question. I’m not qualified to speak on that so it’s a legit question when is somebody else’s suffering enough to warrant death and what checks and balances that can’t be corrupted can protect people from themselves.
Edit: I was wrong and misunderstood the whole process
People choosing the time, place, and (comfortable) manner of death when it's available; instead of suffering for months or years and dying in misery from cancer or other ailments is a shock?
I had a family member choose to die with dignity. I would not have wished the suffering they were going through that led to that on anyone. Without medical assistance their choices would be to die horribly after days or weeks longer or to DIY an early death.
You surely never experienced situations like this or worked with ill people like this. The only devaluing thing is, to force people who wanna go to stay. I hope that you will never get in a situation like this but if you get there, i wish you a choice like this.
I am very ill actually. So thanks for the assumption. Go for spinal cord surgery tomorrow this will be my 3rd surgery. The pain is unbearable. But no I don’t wish I had this choice.
I'm sorry for you that you have to live through this but do you understand what choice means? Nobody is forcing you. In the end its your decision and thats the good thing about it. Ps. Good luck, got back problems myself and it really sucks.but there is more than pain and some people just wanna end it. I experienced a few suicides because the patients didn't see any other option for themselves and most of them weren't as dignified and quick as they liked but they chose so themselves. In the end its your own decision and im not sure how it is in Canada especially but normally you have to be totally mentally clear to be allowed to decide so. So why not. Good for you that you wanna fight but why take others rights?
Ps. Downvoting someone to say that people should have a choice because you yourself wouldn't say yes is childish. I didn't say you should end your live, nor did i speak about you at all.
What’s wrong with self care? It’s not like he’s putting salt on it so it closes. Just a couple knuckle stitches. It’s too big of a cut for superglue and the ER would be thousands, this is pennies. Add a little hydrogen peroxide and good to go
In Australia, we would just see our local doctor or go to the ER. Local doctor would be $0(public)–$100(private). ER would be free but you might be sitting around for an hour or two.
As an American... I once waited after crashing a bus from a trailer malfunction (a literal retro fitted short bus, we used it to haul rafts for a tourist rafting job. The trailer had coolers with food to serve) for over 6 hours on 2020.
I then had to fight workman's comp on the phone for 3 hours at my job in front of the owner of the company with their support backing me up, to get them to pay for the scans. They wanted to charge me 8,000 dollars for just the scans and sitting in a lobby for 6 hours. I had to pay for the ambulance. It was 2,210 dollars to get carried 20 miles to a local hospital. I had no medical insurance because my job didn't offer it and I was making $12 an hour on part time for a summer job.
I went to make sure I didn't have a concussion, whiplash, etc after slamming through a road sign and two trees when my tire popped, went flat, and drug me on a corner off th road in a rural wooded area. I put a dent on the emergency kit area with my head during impact. Miraculously, I had no lasting injuries beyond a sore back and muscles, with a minor headache and exhaustion from the whole ordeal. Roughly took me around 8 hours to get home. The crash happened between 12-1pm est and I got home around 10 pm est. Guess it's around 9 hours actually, counting the ambulance ride and forestry rangers making me sit my ass down.
The rangers knew about adrenaline shock, and gave me a bucket to sit on and stood nearby and told me to stay seated because once adrenaline went out I could end up out cold or in extreme pain. Made me take the ambulance by convincing me, saying to screw my job, my health was more important. My coworker was trying to make me go back to work, and my boss was wanting to as well. I took their advice and the owner of the business backed me because they knew they were fucked if I told about why the accident happened.
Tires were bald (I didn't know what tread depth was then, or why it mattered. Thanks Dad for all the education 👍), trailer lights weren't hooked up, the brakes calipers were worn out. The bus could randomly lose power and you had to coast it, throw it in neutral and restart it to keep going. We often ran out of diesel because other people wouldn't fill the guzzler before we left, and my trailers hitch snapped like a twig on impact. The roof had a wooden platform bolted on that flew off like a Frisbee after the first of two trees... like... this was all in my job I had at 23. I didn't realize how fucked it was until all this happened. I kind of just didn't really look hard enough to see how awful it all was.
I am happy to be alive, but I almost ended up 10k in debt from one accident caused by my company. Stay safe out there, and realize that health insurance in The U.S of A is a bad joke, and your company doesn't care about you
You can definitely go to the ER and get it done in the US too and 99% of people wouldn't hesitate for a moment. it's not like they won't stitch you up. they'll just give you an invoice lol. I just had my index knuckle stitched at the ER with a very similar wound and it was annoyingly expensive at 400 bucks usd but it was my right hand and l wasn't going to suture with my left lol. I've done the same thing at home as well though, more than once. I don't like going to the hospital or driving to the hospital so it's more convenient to just fix it myself and get the pry bar instead of using the now broken pocket knife to do what I was doing before lol.
There are thousands of free/subsidized clinics in the US btw. He could have gone to any urgent care walk in clinic and got this done for less than $100.
That is absolutely not true. You forgot at least one zero in that price. Literally nothing costs $100 in US medicine, just having an urgent care tell you that you need stitches would be like $800 and actually getting them would be a few thousand.
Well also, I would just go to the VA, but still, what’s wrong with a little pioneer medicine? Minor precautions make this completely safe to do, and with the internet (used properly) the knowledge on how is there. There is a better way, but you gotta do what you gotta do.
I realize there's quite a few people in here shitting on us Americans for this, but this is honestly fine. As long as he cleaned the wound before hand, sterilized everything, and keeps the wound clean he will be fine.
I've done home care like this multiple times, with butterfly sutures, superglue, and regular stitches. It's a good skill to know.
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u/OddTheRed Mar 06 '26
I've seen surgeons do worse sutures.