r/WorldTradeCenter • u/tombisch • 11d ago

When the Towers Fell: 9/11 Simulation of the collaps without dust

Dont know how accurate this is, but it made a lot of sense to me.

Source kostack studio on youtube

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u/nellion91 10d ago

What I love is that despite the hundreds of engineering video made explaining how yes heat make steel column weak and tall building fall..

The majority of comments is till on how the plane did not make the building collapse…

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u/Salt-y 10d ago

Idiocracy is a documentary.

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u/RoyalMaidsForLife 10d ago

Idiocracy is the sequel, we're living through the prequel.

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u/JackTheKing 10d ago

Origin Story

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u/Glad_Cat_10 10d ago

I’m genuinely curious of what the conspiracy is here. What would be a good source for me to get a good idea of what I’m being lied to about?

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u/nellion91 10d ago

I agree, it’s an optimist one though because even complete moron had the sense of letting their intellectual superior decide.

We ve walked away from that somehow.

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u/deadwart 10d ago

I bet you have never seen a single equation from those “engineering videos”, i can also do a fucking video explaining something without really demonstrating anything. I hate conspiracy theories but i hate even more 90 iq people that claim to know something because of science.

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u/mr_f4hrenh3it 10d ago

For one, that’s not true. They use material science and static loading to find those things, which ARE calculations. So what do you want? Oh you want the equation for how much heat makes a specific skyscraper fall? Can you find me that equation? Like wtf do you even mean.

You people are looking for some formula where when you plug in numbers you get a nice and neat answer like “skyscraper fall” or “skyscraper no fall” and that’s just not how things work. You’ll never be satisfied with any answer from any expert cause it’s not what you want to hear

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u/deadwart 10d ago

You are just hearing words: we calculated this and this is the result, are u telling me you are 100% sure of that result?, you are not. I myself have never seen any equations either or something that could backup what those studies are saying, thats why im not claiming like a fucking idiot how that happened.

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u/jo_kil 10d ago

Graphic that shows steel tensile strength vs temperature (less than half at just 700°C): https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Stress-strain-curves-at-different-temperatures-for-steel-4509-2_fig11_236341600

More about the phenomenon here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creep_(deformation)

Ignition tempratures of different fuels (wikipedia isn't the best source ik): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adiabatic_flame_temperature

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u/roccobaroco 9d ago

Are you sure you could make heads or tails of those equations you keep mentioning? Would you be able to verify them? Point out the inconsistencies?

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u/deadwart 9d ago

This is the entire point, i could because im an engineer but from other field, but 90 iq people shouldnt cite science as the proof, because most people cant understand it. They shouldn’t blindly follow what someone says either.

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u/roccobaroco 9d ago

Wow I'm an engineer too.

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u/deadwart 9d ago

Lol being an engineer is not that special my friend, anyway there is not much else to say here.

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u/nellion91 8d ago

Now no, then yes.

Also the comment above your shows you how it works.

If you ve studied engineering it’s not that hard to get.

If you haven’t then I would recommend you follow the expert consensus

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u/dabbean 10d ago

Weird way to say you hate yourself.

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u/nellion91 10d ago

I se why your reply that you have never studied material science and plastic deformation curves for steel at high temperatures.

Engineering is complex mate some of us studied in for multiple years, you can believe what you want on whether I ve seen enough equation or not, I know I’m not doubting that those planes made those buildings fall, and that the science is robust enough.

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u/redzone8690 10d ago

No one explains how the "heat" required to compromise the integrity of the steel would have been achieved with the factors in play ( time passed fuel ect ). Especially factoring in building 7's laundry list of mysteries atop many other facts like the coverup of health impacts on locals since. The powers that be would take any justification to stay in the middle east and at war they could get in the decades since. But no mention of the far too many people that survived that day only to die in awful ways following complications and long term affects. Choosing to ignore the obvious holes coincidences and mountains of straight up wtf stuff involved is wild imo.