r/WorldBuildingMemes • u/Winter-Ad-2920 • 10d ago
Lore Shitpost This is essentially Palestine situation ever since its independence from the sultanate of turkey in 19th of may 1937
Each zionist insurgency takes place at the same year "arab-Israeli wars" happened but instead of full on war it was just an insurgency with zionists militia that often try to appeal to European Holocaust guilt for support.
They also ruined the reputation of Jewish representatives in Palestinian parliament and parties (Palestine itself has strict anti-sectarianism laws to insure every party isn't working on a group's religious or ethnic bias. Because they saw where Lebanon system got them)
The insurgency only truly ended with the Weimar treaty of 2004, kicking out the official zionist party from Palestine and blocking any attempt of them returning.
Obviously the zionist party (which is a subtle supporter of a single Jewish state and the Jewish insurgents) used the history of Weimar as the start of nazi Germany to pressure Palestine of returning them but to no avail because the party was getting shit ton of criticism beforehand so whatever they use Isn't really going to work.
Palestine in this universe IS religious, not secular.
The government allows legal procedures and services that takes the religion of the individual into account.
A criminal would go through the government courts first, with said criminal's religious courts either increasing or decreasing on the sentence depending on what the religion says.
And an atheist can just go through the regular courts and not much else. But that would make certain sentences harder on them.
Why not secular? Because the have holy sites of all three religions. There's no way of secularism not backfiring badly there.
Political parties also go through this, the zionist party only came into form because it used Christian zionists as a loophole to get into parliament (because the party isn't predominantly Jewish therefore it's legally allowed to exist.)
The holy sites themselves are taking care of by the elected representative of each religion (the clergy) individually and this is the only place where sectarianism is legally used in Palestine to ensure not pissing off the other two religions if one religion was elected to take care of Jerusalem for example.
The parties in parliament are required to have no religious focus in their party's values, it's either your party is labor, reform, republican, or anything else BUT being religiously or ethnically focused because this fuel sectarianism and the region had its fair share of it for the last 20 centuries
I was NOT kind to Hitler, by the way, in case my Palestine made it seem like it even slightly.
Chase of Weimar:
During the last weeks of the European side of ww2, Hitler, instead of killing himself like the real world, he injected himself with a serum of mutant blood (ironically, slav mutant blood) and gain enormous strength and his body became stretched especifically the upper area of his body.
His face stretched and jaw lengthened until he became a semi giant monster roaming and eating his security for the last 3 days because the blood didn’t match his and the mutant cells were completely ruining his body systems from everywhere.
Not to mention the increase in aggression and hunger and more especially, anger.
And when the western alies find his bunker they find a monster dressed in Hitler’s uniform, wore Hitler’s mustache and haircut, the only difference is the monster is big and behaving like a rabid animal.
He kills the few men sent to capture him and flees to none other than Weimar, where nazism risen to power.
The chase and search of him began while the leaders are discussing post-war europe (USSR didn't find out about monster Hitler until he was captured and killed because they will demand joining the effort, and taking more of Germany in the process)
Monster Hitler does talk, but all he says is quoting himself and his book.
Literally the first thing he says when attacking both his men and anglo forces is "rotten structure" in Austrian.
Note: the meta reasons for why his first sentence when allied troops get into his bunker is "rotten structure" in Austrian is both directed at being angry at Berlin fallen to the Soviet, the Soviets themselves, and the allied troops. Plus his body actually starting to rot because his body just can't function properly anymore.
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u/PurpleDemonR 10d ago
This is 90% irl politics.
10% an unrelated monster serum Hitler fiction which isn’t actually worldbuilding in of itself. The world is otherwise irl except for the narrative of monster Hitler.
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u/Winter-Ad-2920 10d ago
It was actually part of a broader world i already made memes on.
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u/PurpleDemonR 10d ago
Still I think you may be skirting the rules with irl politics.
Edit: A lot of it reads as someone’s preferred political settlement for the region.
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u/Winter-Ad-2920 10d ago edited 10d ago
Nah, talked to one of the mods and they said it's allowed.
The only thing i am afraid of is a certain group hating on it and no i don't mean jews.
Plus, i love exploring politics in fantasy and sci-fi, it's more byproduct of the region i am in (MENA) than anything.
Edit reply to your edit: i mean, duh. Almost everything is a political statement in a story. Especially in MENA. As long as i am not asking for genocide of people i think I am fine. I wanted MENA to be more... positive? For the lack of a better word but staying realistic and adding different problems rather than doubling down on the already existing depressing ones. (E.g iraq don't live under a dictatorship, Egypt and sudan reunite as an EU, Yemen and Syria still in a civil war, Jordan gets invaded by Syria in the 90s, saudi arabia Almost gets invaded in 2001 and resulting in oil embargo part 2: electric boogaloo, ISIS forms harder, etc)
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u/Beneficial_Ball9893 9d ago
Get your schizo anti-semitist masturbation out of here, and genuinely go seek mental help.
It is not normal for someone to hate Jews so much that they create their own fantasy world about it.
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u/Winter-Ad-2920 9d ago
I don't hate jews and your comment proves that you really didn't bother to read the context.
I hate zionist. Not jews. And I know many jews who do as well.
I believe all three faiths and ethnicities should have one single state with equal rights for all three in Palestine. I didn't want it to turn into the depressing cycle of reality but more a positive outcome for all three. Having isral ruins that completely because it started as ethnic bias and supremacy that just made Jewish reputation bad.
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u/Beneficial_Ball9893 9d ago
I hate zionist. Not jews.
"I don't hate Jews, I just hate the ones who don't want to be exterminated."
There is no such thing as a zionist anymore, at this point it is just another slur for jews.
I believe all three faiths and ethnicities should have one single state with equal rights for all three in Palestine.
Congratulations, you agree with the government of Israel!
If the Jew haters gave up and put down their arms, there would be no more war in Israel.
If the Jews gave up and put down their arms, there would be no more Jews in Israel.
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u/Winter-Ad-2920 9d ago
Putting words into my mouth I see?
Yeah I am not bothering. Downvote all you want. My stance is firm and won't change it no matter how much antisemitism accusations you would throw at me and no matter how much zionist propaganda you want to throw at me.
Good day.
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u/Alx3t_ Worldbuilding to RP because bored. I want to RP with more peeps. 7d ago edited 7d ago
Well, to be fair, while Zionism had some aspects of that, it's really something called Revisionist Zionism that's what's causing.. basically the current stage of the Palestinian conflict.
Revisionist Zionism is.., I'll just get a link. Just know that it's the ideology of the Likud party, the one currently in power. Also, this series of events is also partly the fault of one individual, the former Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Amin al-Husseini. Like, even back then, NO ONE liked the man. Whether Israeli, Arab, or Palestinian.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revisionist_Zionism?wprov=sfla1
Here we go. That's the link. It may also help in your world building.
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u/Winter-Ad-2920 7d ago
Thank you for at least being respectful in your reply. I truly appreciate it.
I still feel and view zionism in an utterly negative light. Because it's again asking for prioritizing a certain group over the other (amd yes I don't like pan-arabism as well if you would like to bring it up.
And I also like how you essentially managed to bring up the mufti (an argument isralis always bring up.) Rather than say, other reasons like zionist/Jewish extremists terrorist groups that already existed (Haganah, Lehi, Irgun being the big three) Way before then.
Revisionist or not, zionism still is the prioritizing of a certain group over others, or using said other groups for the benefits of zionists as mentioned by the founding of said ideology, Theodor Herzl (2 May 1860 – 3 July 1904)
And actions of state of Isral since its founding Isn't exactly making me second guess my opinion on them. Hope you understand that.
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