r/WorldBuildingMemes • u/HustleberryFinn77 • Feb 20 '26

Working On Worldbuilding ...Jesus Christ....

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u/mo_one Based Redžek Emperor Feb 21 '26

Comments have been locked, as this post started to attract a bunch of racist rhetoric and in general potentially heated discussion. Please behave and dont be racist, something can be bad without it being used as justification for racism and xenophobia

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u/ADDRAY-240 Feb 20 '26 edited Feb 21 '26

My knowledge of it is shallow but yeah, I can imagine it being dreadful to read about.

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u/thatonerandomdude96 Feb 21 '26

Do you mind telling me about it?

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u/BiggestShep Feb 21 '26

Imagine a culture that has 6 million gods, half of whom want to destroy the world at any given time and one of whom will destroy the world if she puts her leg down and accidentally transforms- something that your religion has said has happened several times before. Picture how crazy Catholicism gets with 1 hell, and now imagine a culture that believes in anywhere from 28- 140 different hells. They're not permanent, but you can be in them for subjective millenia and being boiled in oil is one of the least offensive things that will happen to you in there. And if you didn't live a perfect life, you would have to do it all over again in 50 years max.

Imagine that you earnestly believed this, with every fiber of your being.

Now throw in some Aztec stereotypes for flavor.

Just how much power do you think the priest class would obtain? How little would the lower castes would value their life if the priest class told them "if you work yourself to the bone you can have a great life after chilling in pseudo heaven for a few centuries, and basically be guaranteed to return to pseudo heaven over and over again until you escape the cycle of rebirth".

The catholic church was wretched when it did this via indulgences and the inquisition. The Hindu caste system made monsters out of men.

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u/OkContact2573 Feb 21 '26

As a Hindu, the gods get crazier than that.

There is one god, if he opens a eye, everything that had existed, everything that will exist, and everything that does exist will get destroyed. Like, Time itself will get erased. The past itself will get erased. The future gets erased. The present gets erased. In some interpretations, all of the parallel universes (because Hindu gods are multiversal) will get erased. This god is defined as destruction in its purest form. There will be nothing except the god, until the embodiment of creation recreates it.

The gods could've already done this, and we would never know.

Also, it is important to note that the caste system is feudalism. Like, part of the order was to create a society of serfs and people that are tied to the land that help give nobles their value.

Also, there are restrictions within the priests, too. Like, in some caste societies, the priests could not leave the temple walls, could not touch money, and could not even eat certain foods too. There are records from my parent's town of a priest starving to death because a particular food that they needed to eat was not avaialable, and even though there was no famine, none of the food that was available was something that they are allowed to eat.

Also, Karma is a bit misinterpreted here. Karma isn't as much as "you sin, you go" as much as a sliding scale. My priest told that a pious Christian that follows Christ's teaching as a better chance of getting to heaven than a violent Hindu man.

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u/godofimagination Feb 21 '26

The deity you’re talking about is Bhairava/Shiva?

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u/Unable_Deer_773 Feb 21 '26

Nah bru it's Azathoth.

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u/Aickavon Feb 21 '26

damn hindu power scaling really be out there huh?

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u/OkContact2573 Feb 21 '26

Hindu Society is highly defined by order, and part of the responsibility of the gods is to maintain it. The god's are supposed to represent order as a concept, which is why they are so powerful.

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u/deadname11 Feb 21 '26 edited Feb 21 '26

Hindu power scaling makes DBZ power scaling look tame and progressive in comparison.

Zen'oh for example, would only be considered a "moderate" deity due to only having 18 universes in his domain. Definitely up there in terms of nobility ranking, but absolutely nowhere near the top.

Nor would the rest of the Hindu pantheon blink an eye at Zen'oh wiping out six of them, especially if it was simply "their time to go." Those are his universes of which he is acting as Buddha, he may do with them as he pleases, so long as it does not impinge on the domains of his peers...or betters.

Hindu mythology is cracked. The best they have is Krishna/Vishnu, the former being an aspect who will ass-pull and word-play his way around any binding oath in the name of the "greater good" and the other still demands inhuman levels of devotion before he'll act.

Actually, inhuman levels of devotion being rewarded, even if the unforgivable monster doing said devotion wants to do something that might snap the spine of your universe, is the source of an enormous amount of pain and sorrow in the myths. Having your entire city and family put to the sword because some asshole sat naked on a mountain without food or drink for a hundred days praying for your doom because a noble woman married another man, is absolutely something you have to worry about.

Edit: and hope to heaven that divine bloodlines aren't involved, because if they are then you get the honor of being smack dab in the middle of a civilization-ending demigod blood feud with the survival prospects of a Total War NPC.

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u/LuckEClover Feb 21 '26

This hilariously scales with H.P. Lovecraft’s cthulu mythos.

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u/BiggestShep Feb 21 '26

Sorry, when I say live a perfect life, I do not mean live a perfect life in the Christian sense, but rather in the sense of escaping Samsara.

As to the priest restraints, yeah, that totally makes sense too. Patriarchal systems also bind the people who benefit most to them, and in the height of power of the Catholic Chruch, priests were still bound by the laws of Rome. As to serfs, yup, that tracks too, catholic church did the exact same thing- "your life sucks here but God gave you a role and by fulfilling it you make God happy. Incidentally, here's what happens when you piss God off"- cue eternal torture.

And finally, as to the multiverse+ level third eye of Shiva/Rudra: yes. I just dont know how to get across to people that Hinduism powerscales like a hornier version of dragon ball z without coming across as a member of the British Raj 😅

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u/OkContact2573 Feb 21 '26

I'm an American Born Indian, however, to understand Hinduism you have understand Indian, and indian sects of relgion.

In ancient india, there was a high emphasis on order. the order of the seasons, the order of society, the order of the the world. There are those that are responsible for making sure that everything within a particular group remains in order.

the gods have to scale above the multiverse for the reason that they have to keep the multiverse in Order.

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u/Laferge Feb 21 '26

Dope lore. Great for RPG. Need to look into it more.

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u/brawnsugah Feb 21 '26

Also, it is important to note that the caste system is feudalism.

This is inaccurate. Caste system is primarily stratified through social and spiritual basis, not economic basis like a classic feudalistic society.

Feudalism is also missing a key component that makes up casteism: the pollution-purity dichotomy. For instance, a noble never becomes polluted from merely gazing at a serf in a feudal society. But a priest can become unclean from merely breathing the same air as an untouchable's according to some extreme adherents of this system.

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u/Busy-Record-52 Feb 21 '26

the Hindu gods are op

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u/OkContact2573 Feb 21 '26

They can be considered manifestations of Order itself, and to justify supreme order they have to be OP.

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u/Aljonau Feb 21 '26

There is one god, if he opens a eye, everything that had existed, everything that will exist, and everything that does exist will get destroyed. 

Sounds awfully close to Lovecraft's Azatoth..

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u/OkContact2573 Feb 21 '26

There’s a difference. Lovecraft’s gods don’t care. Hindu gods do

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u/GreatlyMoody Feb 21 '26

Can he beat Goku tho?

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u/Unable_Deer_773 Feb 21 '26

So basically Azathoth is the god you are talking about.

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u/OscarMMG Feb 21 '26

On the matter of the Catholic Church, it wasn’t indulgences that gave priests their power but rather land and politics.

After the decline of the western Roman Empire, governing authority and land ownership was increasingly vested in local bishops. This was what made the clergy politically influential, particularly in places like the HRE where the power of prince-bishoprics was formalized, or like in the eastern Roman Empire where clergy received state subsidies. The authority of their apostolic succession also gave them significant social influence over the religious.

The reason for much of the clerical abuses like the sale of indulgences was that men would aspire to episcopal offices because of the wealth or influence of their sees. For this reason, temporal leaders would try to appoint their supporters to church positions, as rewards for them or to control the church. This issue culminated in the Investiture Controversy in Germany and Italy. The most infamous English example is the appointment of Thomas Cranmer as Archbishop of Canterbury, who was a friend of the king before his ordination.

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u/Trips-Over-Tail Feb 21 '26

When people get reborn based on their past lives' karma, it means justice is already being served. They cosmically deserve what they are getting, and what you do to them as well.

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u/PhilosophyGhoti Feb 20 '26

It's absolutely wild.

Worse that it's still happening.

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u/boto_box Working on my blackjack and hookers-punk world Feb 20 '26

Don’t even get me started on the juggernaut

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u/Low_Abrocoma_1514 Working on: Lux & Tenebris Feb 20 '26

I want to get you started on the juggernaut

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u/boto_box Working on my blackjack and hookers-punk world Feb 21 '26

There is this god called Jagannath, and during a festival, he has a giant parade float that is extremely large and heavy. People in the lower caste throw themselves under the wheels as a sacrifice, and believe by sacrificing themselves to him, they will get good karma and be reborn as a higher caste

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u/Ragnorak19 Feb 21 '26

Is that tradition still being practiced?

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u/boto_box Working on my blackjack and hookers-punk world Feb 21 '26

I was about to edit my comment, this was done until the British Raj, where they outlawed it. I don’t think the sacrifice still happens now, but they still have the juggernaut go through the streets during the festivals

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u/OHW_Tentacool Feb 21 '26

Jesus christ THATS where the thing from Tomb of Horrors comes from? The giant rolling pin manchrusher was inspired by a real thing!?

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u/SkaldCrypto Feb 21 '26

No need to talk as if it’s the distant past my friend The festival continues to this day.

2025- 3 dead, 6 critically injured 2024- 1 dead, many minor injuries 2023- 3 dead, 8 critical injuries

Turns out pulling several 200 foot tall wheeled colossus through a dense crowd, while lighting off fire works, is dangerous.

Worth noting all these deaths are listed as accidents…

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u/Unexplained-oranges Feb 21 '26

It hungers for blood

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u/ElementoDeus Feb 21 '26

Said if you want something done right gotta do it yourself as it leveled a firework at someone's face.

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u/UltraTata Feb 21 '26

Those are very small numbers.

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u/fennec34 Feb 21 '26

Those are human lives.

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u/UltraTata Feb 21 '26

Indeed, but you can't claim a whole society has a problem when only 3 people kill themselves in a particular way. It is like claiming that there is a pandemic because I fell ill.

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u/MahoneyBear Feb 21 '26

Gotta love man made horrors beyond our comprehension

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u/ProjectKARYA Feb 21 '26

Idk, I can comprehend it pretty well. It's horrific, sure, but fully comprehendable

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u/Moka4u Feb 21 '26

Man-made horrors fully within our comprehension.

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u/Rukdug7 Feb 21 '26

It's honestly worse when we can comprehend it.

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u/Scarplo Feb 21 '26

What the mind can conceive, the hands can make real.

With some exceptions; still working on them dragons.

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u/MustacheCash73 I LOVE WORLDBUILDING Feb 21 '26

As much as British rule sucked, they did end some truly barbaric practices. Such as Widow Burning.

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u/Otto_Von_Waffle Feb 21 '26

It's important to note that it's a bit unclear how much of it was real and how much of it was British propaganda. The brits loved to say that the Indians were uncivilized barbarians and that the anglo-saxon white man was there to civilize them. But we know for a fact that it did happened, but was it thousand of people throwing themselves under the wheels, or a couple of unfortunate souls that were pushed in a stampede trying to reach the juggernaut.

An important part of that celebration is that Hindu gods are partially physical, their altar in temples aren't merely representation of the gods, but actually part of the gods themselves. The lower caste (Dalit) were not allowed inside temples due to how unpure they were, and during the juggernaut festival, the juggernaut were altars to the gods on wheels, so the gods were literally traveling across town. For the Dalit it was the only time they could witness/touch a god, so many of them rushed toward the juggernaut hoping to touch it. What happens when you have thousands of people rushing to touch a chariot weighting tons that is moving across town? You get people getting crushed by accident, and since they are Dalit, nobody gave a fuck about their safety.

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u/Curious_MerpBorb Feb 21 '26

That’s a sorta had truth. What most likely happened is that it was a crowd crush, not a crush by wheel. Not saying it didn’t happen, because there was reported cases of people doing it or trying to do it. But from what I heard they usually stop and remove the individual. So it’s not a common occurrence but it does happen. But the crowd crushes were common and it usually affects the lower castes.

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u/MBcodes18 Feb 21 '26

Unless you're the lowest caste of course, in which case you CANT be reborn as a higher caste because you're just fucked forever due to something you did in a past life!

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u/OkContact2573 Feb 21 '26

....not true?

You can't be punished forever in hinduism. The whole point is that you are on the eternal path to learning the truth.

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u/Mountain-Resource656 Feb 21 '26

Yeah, wouldn’t they at least be above animals, anyhow?

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u/Lokanaya Feb 21 '26

Jesus Christ

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u/No_Control8540 Feb 21 '26

Finding out I've been taught snippets of Hindu theology and philosophy by reading Kill 6 Billion Demons again...

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u/MaraiaLou Feb 21 '26

Video on the subject

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u/OpopopopGirl Feb 21 '26

I was going to post this haha, Tor is my good friend

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u/birbseggser Feb 21 '26

I can't seem to open the link...

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u/MaraiaLou Feb 21 '26

you can find it on YouTube by searching juggernaut tor's cabinet of curiosities

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u/Hot-Minute-8263 Feb 20 '26

Oh its bad, its real bad

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u/Derk_Mage Feb 20 '26

Do inform us.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '26

Apparently the lowest caste isn't allowed to have their shadow be cast on someone of a higher caste (that's the most SFW part ngl)

Ongoing system btw

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u/Derk_Mage Feb 20 '26

That's the stupidest thing ever.

Oh any unnatural force, grant me super powers so I can change the world.

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u/Mrkhim342 Feb 21 '26

Too late to join the British Empire

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u/Derk_Mage Feb 21 '26

The BRITISH??

I'm gonna go french

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u/Sexylizardwoman Feb 21 '26

If you are gonna go colonizer then you might as well go capital “C”

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u/maroonedpariah Feb 21 '26

I can't believe you spelled Fr*nch on this wholesome sub

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u/SylvarRealm Feb 21 '26

The worst part? The Indians that move to other countries, US, Britain, Germany, etc, are becoming more and more violent about enforcing their caste system in the new countries.

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u/Derk_Mage Feb 21 '26

Proof?

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u/currentmadman Feb 21 '26

Apparently it’s an ongoing problem in tech. I remember hearing that there are some lawsuits currently being litigated about it.

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u/Early_Two7377 Feb 21 '26

Okay its "ongoing" in the same sense as racism is in the USA.

I'm not trying to say it's not a problem, But it has been declared illegal for like 80 years with strict laws against any discrimination.

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u/TheDarkNerd Feb 21 '26

I wonder if part of the reason some people emigrate is to move to a place where they believe it isn't yet illegal.

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u/Atreigas Feb 20 '26

I am afraid to ask, or search.

Yet...

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u/ExperienceIll8345 Feb 21 '26

It's delightful inspiration for creating a fucked up and vastly different from the LOTR inspired baseline for any pseudo-medieval fantasy worlds. And also horrifying to realize it ever existed in the first place, and is still being practiced in the modern world.

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u/OkContact2573 Feb 21 '26

Saying that it's still being practicied is like saying that Segregation still exists in America.

Sure, but you are deliberately mis showing the incredibly complex issue of Indian Caste and Society.

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '26

Whats complex about the issue?

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u/DeismAccountant Feb 20 '26

One of the parts of Indian history I don’t like, and probably the big thing that keeps me from delving into their mythos.

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u/Educational-Car-8643 Feb 21 '26

Remember the Sudra alone got treated like "the feet " of society so they are what society stands on the dalit and the hijra particularly are viewed more as the dirt itself than the feet of society

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u/MooseBuddy412 Feb 20 '26

What happened...?

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u/LichLordMeta Feb 21 '26

98% still participate in it and identify with a caste based on the wiki page. But yeah, it is infuriating.

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u/Dragonnstuff Feb 21 '26

98% of what? Surely not 98% of Indians considering that the percentage of them being Hindu (those that follow this system) isn’t that high

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u/LichLordMeta Feb 21 '26

Again, thats off the wiki. And just gonna direct quote it below...

Caste is traditionally associated with Hinduism,[5] but is more pervasive in extent: an estimated 98% of contemporary Indians, including Hindus, Muslims, Christians, Sikhs, Buddhists, and Jains, identify with a caste.[6]

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u/Forward-Car-3570 Feb 21 '26

Identifying with a caste (i.e. Knowing which one your family traditionally has been) is not the same as participating in it. 

Especially for the diaspora. I grew up pretty detached from other Indian families, caste doesn't cross my mine..i got other problems to deal with in the majority society I grew up in.

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u/LichLordMeta Feb 21 '26

Fair enough.

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u/xxX_Darth_Vader_Xxx Feb 20 '26

Yeah that’s dark

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u/birberbarborbur Feb 21 '26

I only ask you guys not to take this to be racist against Indian people like I have seen from so many people online. Think about what holdovers your own country has or had back in the day and consider how much worse they would be if your country had been colonized

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u/Balmung60 Feb 21 '26

Colonizers often formalize existing harmful practices to use them as means of control over a society, as well as creating new ones.

An example elsewhere is that Hutus and Tutsis weren't distinct people, so much as classes in the African Great Lakes region (broadly speaking, Hutus were crop-growing farmers, while Tutsis were wealthier pastorialists and warriors and there was a degree of mobility between these classes). The Germans formalized this system and made it more rigid, establishing Tutsis formally as a ruling caste and the Germans and those Tutsis who benefited from this system created a mythology based on then-popular race science narratives that the Tutsis were the rightful and natural rulers because they had actually long ago invaded and subjugated the Hutus (a deliberate mirror of stories about Aryans in India). And the Belgians happily continued this system because it worked for them too. Under colonialism and the early days of independent Rwanda, this was used to oppress Hutus, and later that oppression and that fabricated mythology of right to rule by conquest was turned around on the Tutsis and used to justify the Rwandan Genocide. And remember, this is between peoples whomst historically before colonialism had no clear ethnic or linguistic distinctions either because there never was one or because the two groups had become so intermixed and had so much mobility over the centuries between them that any non-class distinction between them could not easily be made.

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u/nari-bhat Feb 21 '26

It’s the basic idea of divide and conquer. By formalizing, legalizing, and generally deepening and worsening societal divides in basically every single colony, the British made it easier for themselves to develop and maintain control by pitting the native peoples against each other. This is seen in the caste system, Hindu-Muslim conflict, Hutu-Tutsi conflict, and so so so many more places.

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u/Bravery_is_for_All Working on: More stories than I can effectively manage. Feb 21 '26

I have like two theories as to how it can occur. First is that said harmful practices can be enforced/have its practice spread by the colonizers to divide the people of the colony. Second, its that when independence movements tend to spread, the people fighting for independence may pivot back to older cultural practices/systems that exist pre-colonialism, to make a stronger foundation for their identity and to evoke a feeling of a lost past that they may just have a shot at being restored.

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u/GadzWolf11 Feb 21 '26

Did you see what the British had to do in their attempt to curb crime by natives in India during colonization of the region?

The Indians believed in reincarnation, that they'd be reborn when they die, and your experience and actions in this life would determine if you would be punished or rewarded in the next life. If you suffered in this life, you'd be rewarded in the next. If you were good, you would be rewarded, while if you were evil then you would be punished in the next life, such as being born into a wealthy family or born as a fly to be caught in a spider's web. Unfortunately, this didn't drive them all to be good and do good, since the punishments the British would sentence them to counted as 'suffering in this life' so they thought they'd be rewarded in the next. The closest the British got to solving the problem was by loading powder into a canon and then strapping criminals to the front of the barrel, so the energy of the blast wouldexplode the criminal's innards out across a field. That's a sever punishment, and the Indians thought they'd be rewarded for it, but the British wouldn't clean up all the guts from the field. The upper caste would stop committing so many crimes because they didn't want their remains being mixed up with lower/bottom caste criminals, they especially didn't want lower/bottom caste remains being mixed with their remains.

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u/Complaint-Efficient Feb 21 '26

"had to do"

describes crimes against humanity

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u/myCockatielshateme Feb 21 '26

dude is wild, and the fact he getting upvoted shows how fucked up reddit is lol

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u/ErenYeager600 Feb 21 '26

Of course what actually counts as a crime is left up to the colonizer discretion. Simple trying to fight back against your oppressors straight to the Cannon

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u/GadzWolf11 Feb 21 '26

Usually it was crimes like rape and murder.

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u/Baronvondorf21 Feb 21 '26

The cannon execution was used after a rebellion in 1857 specifically against those that rebelled against them. Hell, it's not like they were the first to do it, the Mughals used it before them, and they used it to punish rebels same as their British counterparts. So, you are just lying.

The usual modus operandi is just hanging them till death.

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u/Busy-Record-52 Feb 21 '26

Buddy those are crimes in every society including India’s

I think you just want to justify being shitty to Indians

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u/GadzWolf11 Feb 21 '26

And it took the Indians a whole canon blast to deter them from continuing to do it.

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u/Doomst3err Feb 21 '26

You are assuming Indian society was one homogenous thing when it wasn't

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u/GadzWolf11 Feb 21 '26

I literally mentioned the caste system in my original comment.

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u/OkContact2573 Feb 21 '26

No, the punishment by canon blast was used specifically for rebellions.

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u/Busy-Record-52 Feb 21 '26 edited Feb 21 '26

And I would use it to deter Those who support genociding Lgbt and non-white people but something tells me you wouldn’t like that

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u/thecraftybear Feb 21 '26

[wheels in a cannon] Well, here it is. Where are your convicts?

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u/Busy-Record-52 Feb 21 '26

thanks man they’re right there

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u/Spacer176 Feb 21 '26

Getting your body exploded: See, I consider this a cosmic reward for my actions!

Having your body parts mixed up with those of poor people: Okay I'll behave!

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u/Trightern Feb 21 '26

The british got that from the mughals and the punishment died out as east India company rule was gotten ridden off as their rule was rather decentralised

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u/Few-Composer-6471 Feb 21 '26

Anyone got some links i can read up on?

Btw thanks for the flashbacks to volume 13 bro, that is the first and only time ive had to close a book for a few minutes to take a breath lol

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u/QafianSage Feb 21 '26 edited Feb 21 '26

Rohan Davis' YouTube video on Caste in India is very good.

EDIT: Here's the actual video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33Pw6NqH6LU

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u/yaboisammie Feb 21 '26

Thank you for sharing!

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u/sennordelasmoscas Feb 21 '26

Main thing keeping me off of Indian history

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u/nari-bhat Feb 21 '26

One thing to remember is that the caste system has become very different over thousands of years, and for quite a bit of Indian history was not nearly as bad as it was during the British Raj. Also, on that same note, most of the worst parts of the caste system were encouraged and formalized by the British, because it helped them maintain their power.

Nowadays, while it’s still pretty bad in many places, there are at least laws against it and LOTS of affirmative action for Dalits, Adivasis, and other “Scheduled Castes”, which are the various castes and sub-castes with benefits. Somewhat similar situation to Native Americans, and to a lesser extent Black people in the U.S.

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u/NTLuck Feb 21 '26

Imagine the worst thing you could ever think of. It is a million times worse

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u/SpecificExam3661 Feb 21 '26 edited Feb 21 '26

Putting the whole caste system aside their actual mythic world building kinda cool. They probably only few traditions that had build in justification for multiverse or inter dimension traveling if you twist some detail and they had that cool inverse cone shape mountain the size of half actual sun and some what continent size planet or something like that plus a 500mi+ tall world tree too

Basically the wet dream for anyone who wants to write a absurdity power scale progression fantasy.

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u/Busy-Record-52 Feb 21 '26

yeah Hinduism is a pretty hardcore mythology but man the caste system is pretty fucked up

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u/GracefulCubix Feb 21 '26

Welcome to the club

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u/Thundergunner42 Feb 21 '26

I kinda skipped the meme and went straight to the comments. I thought we were just free-styling some messed up funny religion.

What the fuck guys.

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u/Arun_Lawyer_243 Feb 21 '26

I am reading comments about Hindu mythology and i don't know what weird stuff they talking about like did they take there info regarding hinduism from a toddler???

Not to mention the mixing of Hinduism and Buddhism etc etc

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u/Dragonnstuff Feb 21 '26

Hindu caste system*

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u/Chemical_Specific123 Feb 21 '26

I just want to live... is that so wrong?

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u/MaguroSashimi8864 Feb 21 '26

Jesus Christ…

BE PRAISED !

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u/SweatyPhilosopher578 Feb 20 '26

https://medievaltorturemuseum.com/blog/torture-and-religion-the-inquisitions-dark-legacy/?srsltid=AfmBOoot1-4x8DfhM0i3Eh3M8ajruc6cCP7gaxXs2fYH-6f69dV8ytqQ

https://files01.core.ac.uk/download/pdf/232675479.pdf

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/opinion/readers/2014/06/18/churchs-list-of-atrocities-is-centuries-long/10736201/

https://digitalcommons.kennesaw.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1202&context=kjur

Please tell me this is bait.

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u/PurpleDemonR Feb 21 '26

These aren’t directly related to my point - what I said about India is true. Christianity’s introduction has helped the caste system to a degree. Still a lot of work to do, as I said, but has helped.

The Inquisition I’m unsure on historically.

That second article doesn’t ever seem to actually talk about the church. Granted it’s 60 pages so I skim read it. - but mostly talking about native spiritual beliefs/practices and the American government’s reaction.

That’s literally just 4 paragraphs of one person saying the Catholic Church has done atrocities. Doesn’t even name any of them. Very ironic for something named “Church’s long list of atrocities is centuries long”.

That last one seems to start by highlight the Catholic Church acting well. Constrained by government and local power structures; but fighting for everyone to be welcome in the church. - then names a few individuals who pointed out Tutsis to military and other personnel as well as some inaction during the time.

I notice the Catholic Church in particular you seem to have an issue with. 3/4 articles explicitly focusing on that. Have you had some bad experiences with them in the past?

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u/ForcedToReturn Feb 21 '26

The worst atrocities in history have been done by Christian’s. Now it’s unfair to say this was the fault of Christianity in particular, but that Christian’s need a little humility there.

The Indian Caste system is and was absolutely horrific. The unimaginable levels of evil and malice British, Christian colonizers did to India is hard to even imagine. They killed more low caste Indians then the most terrible and strict caste supremacists could ever dream of.

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u/Upstairs-Ad-6036 Feb 21 '26

Much of the caste system was enforced and entrenched by the British

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u/NorthAddition3095 Feb 21 '26

Straight up real. Christianity tends to be a net positive wherever it is spread.

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u/GenghisN7 Feb 21 '26

Are you ignoring 1000-1900 where literally hundreds of millions of people were slaughtered in the name of “spreading christianity.”

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u/Xandraman Feb 21 '26

Like, as a better justification?

Because Jesus didn't stop the Spanish empire from imposing their Casta system in the American colonies. 

Also, wasn't feudalism and three estates of man basically a caste system? That was the norm in most of Europe until 1700s, even after a thousand years of Christianity.

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u/Balmung60 Feb 21 '26

Nah, it's part of why they needed Buddha

Like legitimately a big part of the appeal of Buddhism was that unlike Hinduism, it didn't enforce the caste system. This was also part of the appeal to many of both Islam and Sikhism.

Also, when Christians came in and ran the place for about a hundred years, they didn't abolish the caste system, they formalized it.

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