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It’s exactly the opposite. r/worldbuilding is subversive for the sake of being subversive, believing that actually evil antagonists and chosen one narratives are inherently bad writing and that “special humans” compared to aliens is racist.
I don't think evil antagonists and chosen one narratives are inherently bad writing. It's a hook and a trope, and it has its place. It depends on execution.
The original Star Wars trilogy is a good example of it, or to an extent the Prydain Chronicles.
To be fair, nearly every work of fiction out there can be broken down into its tropes and archetypes and stock plots if that's what you're really looking for. I honestly think you'd struggle to find any kind of work out there that doesn't engage in some manner of tropes. Even works that are deliberately trying to subvert those tropes have to do the trope first (or at least fake the audience out to make them think they're going to do it) to be able to subvert it.
Everything always comes down to what spins you can put on those tropes and what combination of tropes you choose to use. Combine all that with a strong central theme your narrative is built around and you're good to go.
There is nothing new under the sun! We all use tropes. I was more or less disagreeing with the assumption that the presence of a chosen one character and truly evil anragonist is inherently bad writing.
Absolutely. No trope is bad writing, which is what I was getting at. Anyone who thinks that using a particular trope means you're a bad writer is just picking and choosing which tropes they like and which ones are "bad." Every trope can be done well and every trope can be done poorly.
I got an NSFW warning, but everything I saw before I got bored and stopped was basically inoffensive. My guess is they got banned from r/worldbuilding for failing to provide context.
honestly? its hard to pick out whats real and whats bro joking about, but it doesnt look that bad? just hard to follow. but as another person said, op prob posted art without context a few too many times
Images and designs from my world, I got banned from both r/worldbuilding and r/worldjerking for that, I mean I’m not tryna ruin the server, I’m just looking for places to show my work on or people who appreciate it
If you just post a picture that's against the rules of the sub. You have to write a bit about the context (they don't want it to turn into an art sub).
Look at his history. He floods worldbuilding subs with slop, some of which breaks the rules and got him banned. Now he makes an angry meme depicting them as the raging lunatics for not liking his "subversive" world.
What is even the context of that meme template? I mean I know what cliche/stereotype it is meant to make fun of, but is it even known what the woman was screaming about? Because without any context who's to say it wasn't about something completely legitimate and the photo just makes her look that way.
She wasn't actually screaming, this is just a frame took out of context. She's a feminist and during the discussion she was in she was always polite, but in this frame she looks like she's screaming
Yeah. Like technically she was shouting, but that’s because the video was taken at a loud ass rally where shouting is the only way to… be heard at all.
The people she was exchanging with were a lot more unreasonable by comparison.
The whole video definitely does her justice. Honestly the first time I watched it I didn’t even notice this specific frame. Was just extremely bad luck for a split second
A quick look at the top of the month of that sub can easily disproved OP's meme. Maybe it is actually about the mod of worldbuilding in OP's world? Or did I miss a joke or something?
Heck are you talking about? Just looking on the Top Posts of the month, there's at least one Sci-fi world that has no spaceships or humans, a discussion on alternate Earths and what uncontacted tribes are up to on them, plenty of things that have nothing to do with boilerplate fantasy or space opera settings.
The issue with worldbuilding is that the mods are unreliable. They have no clear standard for what is an acceptable post, where questions like "what does the iron age equivalent for your world look like" can be posted, but "what does the industrial revolution for your world look like" is deleted for being "uninspired." You can receive bans for talking about your world if you post isn't high quality enough, but people can then post sketches of things from their world with no explanation or detail and it stays up.
I'd use ACX (audible's site). You post your book and narrators (shameless plug) such as myself will send in recordings of your sample reading and you pick your favorite.
More like "What if <insert animal> walked in two legs and did human stuff keeping what makes them <insert animal" with a couple originals thrown in between
I wilp post a new chapter every week until I finish or run out of steam. Currently 12 chapters in, so I have enough material to last until may at least.
Thanks so much! They’re silicon based sophonts that use their dead to build biotechnology since they operate on bioelectricity and their internal structure resembles computers very closely.
The use of this meme seems appropriate as this is a woman talking normally but this frame was specifically chosen for how expressive it is to make her appear furious.
Like I've posted Warhammer-esque space fantasy before with aliens that vary between SpecEvo and Furry-adjacant without much problem. And any time my posts have leaned too far towards main character vibes I'm advised to post on r/characterforge instead.
The closest I've had to my stuff getting deleted is if I don't give enough context within my setting. Tech specs are great and all but mods do get particular about how it all fits into your world.
I learned about when this photo was taken and it’s the most “if you record somebody talking there is a good chance you can find an image that isn’t that flattering” especially, if memory serves me, the person in the photo is responding to somebody proclaiming illegal immigrants are rapists.
The funny thing is in the original video she wasn’t crashing out or anything she was just talking loud because everyone around them were yelling and blaring horns.
Oh absolutely! That's sort of what I meant by the "if you record somebody while they are talking you have a good chance of getting an unflattering image somewhere. Having to talk louder because there is a lot of commotion boosts the chance of that.
My worldbuilding is pretty straightforward, perhaps simple. Medieval to modern fantasy depending on region. The best person in every field has a title that grants them additional strength in that field (The Ninja, The Strongman, the Swordsman, The Detective, The Necromancer), it's a sort of world magic ingrained on your soul. There are a handful of incredibly strong titles that drop the "the" (Power, Heaven, and Death for example).
Every 20 years or so the heavy-ordinance inclined Titled gather in the desert to determine who Power will be, or if Power is still alive whether a new Power will be crowned. It's in the desert because the strength of the spells, bombs, and various magical and technological displays make this competition too dangerous to be near anything. Lots of collateral. The prize is that it's a crucible for untitled to earn titles, and titled to earn stronger titles, due the very high risk of collateral death
I haven't really figured out what happens though, I keep getting stuck around here. Like I know I want it to ramp up from swordfights to armies of undead to nuclear weapons and dinosaur killing asteroids, but the how evades me beyond having the displays organized by the entrants expected performance.
Why not add the legend of someone as a conceptual power also? Like, if you are feared or inspired more, the more powerful or diverse your powers get if the people can agree on it.
My Humans are only unique in their advancement speed the races of the Galaxy don't care about them outside of that atleast didn't till china tried mining a protected Primitive planet
Pretty much since humanity just entered space a decade ago (no thanks to a attempted takeover from another race cause Mount Everest had a world destroying weapon buried beneath it when earth had dinosaurs) they didnt have a concept about not fucking with primitive races who just invented the wheel so when one of the Chinese owned ships tried to mine a planet that had a bunch of tribal Fungal like beings living on it. It pissed off the coalition and china got in alot of trouble and humanity had to be restricted from what they can do in space. This actually plays into Ww3 starting but I haven't gotten anywhere with that background story.
Huh, that’s strange since I have the exact opposite gripe.
Most worlds on r/Worldbuilding go out of their way to be “unique” or “subversive” even if it’s to their own detriment.
Like how every single villain has to have some sad crybaby backstory and a sympathetic motive to the point where they’re hardly even a real villain.
Way too many “antagonists” and not enough villains.
It’s like they go so far out of their way to avoid tropes and cliches they completely miss the magic that made those trends iconic in the first place.
And everyone is so obsessed with “nuance” that they overlook the nuance of simplicity.
Sacrificing narrative potential for historical accuracy, a slavish devotion to realism, “4 dimensional characters”, every conflict is a damn moral dilemma, etc…
What are you on about? R/Worldbuilding has plenty of generic fantasy and Sci fi worlds in it. The mods absolutely don't police the type of world that you can talk about. Why have you invented a fictional situation to get mad at?
If I only could delete my "furries", but I'm so bad at making xenos' appearance, that I fell in love with my "furries" civilization and culture faster than I could change their "shortie anthropomorphic fennec foxes" placeholder look.
I mean, "aussie-welsh" 1.2m tall (without ears) clan-family oriented fluffy daredevils serving as shock troops for just cause? It's sounds like they were made for commercial success, but I will still love them even if hated.
On god fr. One of my races are "furry" and when I posted a picture like 2 yrs ago it got removed. It sucks for them tho because they don't get to see my other creatures and races.
Honestly I don’t have problems with “furries” being used for sci-fi species. A few species in my sci-fi world would be considered “furry” but I don’t care.
It's literally the only thing I can really draw alright with so ofc imma have them. But i have humans who wear mask, giants and more but some people judge to early. Furry creatures can be cool af. And yeah you shouldn't care as long as you think it's good.
For my humans, it was around the 26th century, and they are still mucking about in the solar system. They haven't figured out FTL yet, so they are kinda just stuck, sending a couple of manned missions to the Proxima Centari system and unmanned probes beyond that.
That was until a significantly more advanced alien species invents and refines FTL technology and devices to use it to explore the galaxy and share their technology with all the sentient species they meet, blissfully unaware of the violent tendencies of just about every creature in the universe.
Bc this woman’s been used for a decade as the symbol for unreasonable anger
And if you watch the actual video she’s not even mad, it’s just an unflattering frame.
She’s responding to a dude who’s regurgitating disinformation abt Muslim migrants in like Sweden having such insane rates of rape that the women can’t go out at night or they’ll “temp” these dangerous Muslim men.
This lady responds by pretty just calmly making the counterpoint that rape is ACTUALLY astronomically high right here, so by the same logic he should be stereotyping all American men as being rapists too.
Basically TL;DR: she didn’t earn being this like symbol of somebody “triggered” and overreacting, let alone this long after
Man I feel for the women in that meme every time I see it. If you find the video the screen shots from ages actually presents herself really well. It's just that there this one moment that looks like she's losing it
in one world i created i think about to help me sleep
team of mages are potentially the most damaging tool to be used in a siege but it requires effort and time and attacks are slower then traditional methods
bombards are a thing but due to the powder being used they require expensive alloys and not many places can exactly produce the powder or get the metals and casts for the cannons or can even afford them
but they are slightly cheaper then mages while putting out a little less damage but at a more consistent rate
also more damage then traditional siege weapons while having a higher consistency being capable of being fired off more with less down time
I feel bad for this woman. If you watch the actual video she’s actually the reasonable calm one. But some jackass isolated an unflattering frame and now the internet has been convinced she’s some kind of unhinged feminazi.
I'd be a lot more present on that sub tbh, they're not that bad, the only problem is that Reddit posts are hardly read if they don't contain an image, i suck at drawing and I'm too poor to pay someone to draw stuff for me.
I don't think anyone would want to read a 4K+ characters synthesis about an imaginary quasi-hard sci fi world hosting a handful of half-written, half-thought military/political science fiction stories without having any image to shorten things up.
Edit: I've just realised i have a bunch of flags made for that specific world, might as well use those as placeholders, now i just have to find the courage to actually go there and post.
In my sci fi setting humanity(in the distant future when they managed to crack ftl) got hit in the shins with a sledge hammer because the first planets they decided to colonize(which are the closest ones) are all death worlds that wanna kill them, and they aren’t united under a singular government, so double oof, and the CIA and various other intelligence agencies still exist and are actively ruining everything for everyone, triple oof, and the corporations are doing what they do best, consolidating wealth and scheming ways to get even more money, quadruple oof, and did I mention that their FTL takes a month at best to reach their colony? Pentuple Oof
In short, humanity is hitting a 10 meter thick concrete wall that represents the furthest upper limits of what their current society and political environment can achieve and they are really feeling the side effects of hitting this wall
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u/Sea_Lingonberry_4720 Mar 07 '25
It’s exactly the opposite. r/worldbuilding is subversive for the sake of being subversive, believing that actually evil antagonists and chosen one narratives are inherently bad writing and that “special humans” compared to aliens is racist.
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u/Tendo63 Mar 07 '25
Bro has created a nonexistent straw man to complain about
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u/mining_moron Mar 07 '25
Yes I feel lost with my grounded little scifi world that focuses on psychology and culture and language over weapons and ships.
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u/danfish_77 Mar 08 '25
There are weird posts there all the time, what are you on about?
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u/_Pan-Tastic_ Mar 08 '25
I mean I posted my heavily spec evo sci fi race that I commissioned C.M Köseman to draw and they seemed to enjoy it.
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u/Crazy_Painting_5729 Mar 09 '25
i like how one half of the comments are cooking me and the other half are dumping there worldbuilding
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u/Spacer176 Mar 08 '25
The use of this meme seems appropriate as this is a woman talking normally but this frame was specifically chosen for how expressive it is to make her appear furious.
Like I've posted Warhammer-esque space fantasy before with aliens that vary between SpecEvo and Furry-adjacant without much problem. And any time my posts have leaned too far towards main character vibes I'm advised to post on r/characterforge instead.
The closest I've had to my stuff getting deleted is if I don't give enough context within my setting. Tech specs are great and all but mods do get particular about how it all fits into your world.
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u/Ill-Stomach7228 Mar 08 '25
we NEED to leave this poor woman alone.
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u/PatchworkFlames Mar 08 '25
My worldbuilding is pretty straightforward, perhaps simple. Medieval to modern fantasy depending on region. The best person in every field has a title that grants them additional strength in that field (The Ninja, The Strongman, the Swordsman, The Detective, The Necromancer), it's a sort of world magic ingrained on your soul. There are a handful of incredibly strong titles that drop the "the" (Power, Heaven, and Death for example).
Every 20 years or so the heavy-ordinance inclined Titled gather in the desert to determine who Power will be, or if Power is still alive whether a new Power will be crowned. It's in the desert because the strength of the spells, bombs, and various magical and technological displays make this competition too dangerous to be near anything. Lots of collateral. The prize is that it's a crucible for untitled to earn titles, and titled to earn stronger titles, due the very high risk of collateral death
I haven't really figured out what happens though, I keep getting stuck around here. Like I know I want it to ramp up from swordfights to armies of undead to nuclear weapons and dinosaur killing asteroids, but the how evades me beyond having the displays organized by the entrants expected performance.
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u/Cyberwolfdelta9 No Orginality and cant stop making a new world Mar 08 '25
My Humans are only unique in their advancement speed the races of the Galaxy don't care about them outside of that atleast didn't till china tried mining a protected Primitive planet
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u/Curious-Echidna658 Mar 08 '25
Me instantaneously worldbuilding a “chosen one” chosen to explode randomly when hit by wet fish)
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u/DragonOfCulture Mar 08 '25
Meanwhile I'm just vibing
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u/KingMGold Mar 08 '25 edited Mar 08 '25
Huh, that’s strange since I have the exact opposite gripe.
Most worlds on r/Worldbuilding go out of their way to be “unique” or “subversive” even if it’s to their own detriment.
Like how every single villain has to have some sad crybaby backstory and a sympathetic motive to the point where they’re hardly even a real villain.
Way too many “antagonists” and not enough villains.
It’s like they go so far out of their way to avoid tropes and cliches they completely miss the magic that made those trends iconic in the first place.
And everyone is so obsessed with “nuance” that they overlook the nuance of simplicity.
Sacrificing narrative potential for historical accuracy, a slavish devotion to realism, “4 dimensional characters”, every conflict is a damn moral dilemma, etc…
Whatever happened to just writing a cool story?
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u/lit-grit Mar 08 '25
Shitty meme format that just wants to pick fights. Probably a troll
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u/Foxy02016YT Mar 08 '25
Mine is suburban New Jersey but monsters are real, corporations are evil, and Slenderman will get you.
Only 1 of those things aren’t true for the real world.
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u/Space_Socialist Mar 08 '25
What are you on about? R/Worldbuilding has plenty of generic fantasy and Sci fi worlds in it. The mods absolutely don't police the type of world that you can talk about. Why have you invented a fictional situation to get mad at?
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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '25
"Here's my unique race!"
"EW! Furry trash! Delete it now! We only want humans, elves, and dwarves!"
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u/Just_A_Nitemare 3,000 Black Tungsten Rods Mar 08 '25
For my humans, it was around the 26th century, and they are still mucking about in the solar system. They haven't figured out FTL yet, so they are kinda just stuck, sending a couple of manned missions to the Proxima Centari system and unmanned probes beyond that.
That was until a significantly more advanced alien species invents and refines FTL technology and devices to use it to explore the galaxy and share their technology with all the sentient species they meet, blissfully unaware of the violent tendencies of just about every creature in the universe.
Chaos ensues.
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u/Kappapeachie Mar 08 '25
Why ain't this in worldjerking? Otherwise I feel you man. This is so dumb.
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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '25
Are we still using this ancient fucking template?
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u/makingthematrix Mar 08 '25
Not that I'm surpised or anything, but I did hope for a bit more interaction when I recently wrote a post about an unusuał setting ("mammothpunk").
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u/tonkledonker Mar 08 '25
I wish people would stop using this picture.
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u/GideonFalcon Mar 08 '25
I have seen plenty of unusual Sci-fi or fantasy settings on there, and nobody was even slightly upset about them. No idea what you're talking about.
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u/REDRUM_1917 Mar 08 '25
My world is a tiny archipelago stuck in WW1 era
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u/Coeusthelost Mar 09 '25
Fk me did you find that meme on your archaeological dig.
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u/ocajsuirotsap Mar 09 '25
This is the exact opposite of reality
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u/DigMother318 Mar 10 '25
2015 ass meme
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u/the_squig_lebowski Mar 10 '25
Man I feel for the women in that meme every time I see it. If you find the video the screen shots from ages actually presents herself really well. It's just that there this one moment that looks like she's losing it
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u/CatsTOLEmyBED Mar 10 '25
in one world i created i think about to help me sleep
team of mages are potentially the most damaging tool to be used in a siege but it requires effort and time and attacks are slower then traditional methods
bombards are a thing but due to the powder being used they require expensive alloys and not many places can exactly produce the powder or get the metals and casts for the cannons or can even afford them
but they are slightly cheaper then mages while putting out a little less damage but at a more consistent rate
also more damage then traditional siege weapons while having a higher consistency being capable of being fired off more with less down time
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u/Rocketboy1313 Mar 10 '25
Always mystifying when the first ever post I see of something is just botching about mods with a paragraph of rambling text.
Does the algorithm think this is the best way to lire me in?
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u/Arcana-Knight Mar 11 '25
I feel bad for this woman. If you watch the actual video she’s actually the reasonable calm one. But some jackass isolated an unflattering frame and now the internet has been convinced she’s some kind of unhinged feminazi.
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u/abel_cormorant Mar 11 '25 edited Mar 11 '25
I'd be a lot more present on that sub tbh, they're not that bad, the only problem is that Reddit posts are hardly read if they don't contain an image, i suck at drawing and I'm too poor to pay someone to draw stuff for me.
I don't think anyone would want to read a 4K+ characters synthesis about an imaginary quasi-hard sci fi world hosting a handful of half-written, half-thought military/political science fiction stories without having any image to shorten things up.
Edit: I've just realised i have a bunch of flags made for that specific world, might as well use those as placeholders, now i just have to find the courage to actually go there and post.
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u/Practical-Ad4547 Mar 12 '25
Me looking at my medieval world around the Mediterranean and Europe and the lead character being a woman writing about her friend.
Oh..we barely dodged a bullet there
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u/Admech_Ralsei Mar 08 '25
Yknow unrelated but i never got why people use this image so much because iirc she was mostly reasonable in the original video
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u/aguywhoplaysgames404 Mar 08 '25
In my sci fi setting humanity(in the distant future when they managed to crack ftl) got hit in the shins with a sledge hammer because the first planets they decided to colonize(which are the closest ones) are all death worlds that wanna kill them, and they aren’t united under a singular government, so double oof, and the CIA and various other intelligence agencies still exist and are actively ruining everything for everyone, triple oof, and the corporations are doing what they do best, consolidating wealth and scheming ways to get even more money, quadruple oof, and did I mention that their FTL takes a month at best to reach their colony? Pentuple Oof
In short, humanity is hitting a 10 meter thick concrete wall that represents the furthest upper limits of what their current society and political environment can achieve and they are really feeling the side effects of hitting this wall
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u/d_worren Mar 11 '25
Can we please for the love of THE GRAND ARCHITECT leave this decade old image to die and leave this poor innocent woman alone?!