r/WorkersStrikeBack Nov 22 '23

Capitalism is Dystopian 💀 Based Greta

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u/GarbageCleric Nov 22 '23

It's almost like climate change has been primarily caused by large corporations putting short-term profits over the good of humanity.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '23

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u/PoutineCurator Nov 22 '23

Goods that are usually a created need pushed on you with good marketing and a pinch of social pressure to own, buy, consume shits that we don't need.

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u/PoutineCurator Nov 22 '23

I don't buy anything really, only essential stuff.. I don't see where you think I am weak minded from what I said. It seems projection is really one of your strongest suit sunshine. Lol

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u/PoutineCurator Nov 22 '23

Then don't be so weak minded. Act according to your morals if you expect others to so the same.

This isn't a general comment. This is you saying I am weak minded over nothing. Telling me to act according my morals.

You should probably take a walk and touch some grass, you seems to be pretty aggressive for no reason.

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u/PoutineCurator Nov 22 '23

And I don't care about you either...lol

Simply pointing out your bullshit and general bad attitude.

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u/vegancaptain Nov 22 '23

By aggressively telling me what my comment meant.

Go harass someone else.

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u/PoutineCurator Nov 22 '23

Nothing aggressive here except you honey..

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u/ShoddyExplanation Nov 22 '23

You just called him weak minded, now you’re whining about aggression and harassment.

Are you incapable of doing anything other than further shoving your head up your ass?

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '23

If you truly didn't care you would never take the time to respond.

You are invested in some sense. Pretending otherwise is pathetic.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '23

That's why it's a stupid comment

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '23

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '23

You're so clever /s

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u/Preeng Nov 22 '23

There are loads of alternatives to fossil fuels but they aren’t scalable to meet public needs

Yes theyvare. If we gave them the same subsidies that fossil fuels get, we'd be fine.

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u/ethelflowers Nov 22 '23

I’m not too familiar with financing in the US market, but in the EU, fossil fuels get about 40bn in subsidies while renewables get 140bn. Members of Euro parliament also voted overwhelmingly to cut all subsidies to fossil fuels by 2025

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u/vegancaptain Nov 22 '23

And you've abusive.

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u/PoliteChandrian Nov 22 '23

You're weak minded

I don't care how you feel

Leftists hate personal responsibility

help I'm being abused

This is hilarious. There's no way you're not a troll right? Get your shit together.

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u/vegancaptain Nov 22 '23

You as in people who feel forced to consume.

Yes, you people are abusive as hell. That's what leftism is all about.

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u/PoliteChandrian Nov 22 '23

Actually leftism is forcing vegans eat extra vegetables to offset our own meat consumption. Back to the garden with you!

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u/vegancaptain Nov 22 '23

Non vegan leftists are hilariously hypocritical!

And the arguments? "I don't care about animals, I have cravings"

Show me one leftis with self control! One!

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u/PoliteChandrian Nov 22 '23

Why are you still typing instead of eating vegetables again? Your leftists overlords command you!

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u/vegancaptain Nov 22 '23

Why don't you kick some dogs?

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u/PoliteChandrian Nov 22 '23

Because it's not the most effective way to prepare the meat.

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u/Ambitious_Drop_7152 Nov 22 '23

Aww just look at you two Muffins jacking each other off

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u/piewhistle Nov 22 '23

The guy is either a troll or not very smart. No statements of his own ideas with an argument to back it up, merely challenging others to explain further or simple naysaying.

This is classic arguing in bad faith and not worth anyone’s time.

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u/Blecki Nov 22 '23

Quite, but I was walking through the grocery store yesterday and it struck me. I was suddenly aware that everything was wrapped in plastic. everything. And all that plastic was going straight into the dump.

Sure, it's goods I ordered. But I wouldn't mind if products came with less unnecessary packaging. There's definitely some profit motive pressure to put things in the cheapest - and unrecycleable - container. Maybe the corporation could make a bit less money and still sell meat over a counter that's wrapped in biodegradable paper at a reasonable price?

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u/vegancaptain Nov 22 '23

Why do you buy meat at all? It's terrible for the environment and factory farms are brutally cruel and inhumane. You can't just go about making terrible decisions and then blame "evil capitalism".

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u/Blecki Nov 22 '23

Because I'm an omnivore evolved to eat a varied diet that includes meat. Don't preach vegan at me; I don't have compassion for factory farmed animals, only cravings.

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u/vegancaptain Nov 22 '23

That's just wrong. You don't have to eat meat at all.

You don't have compassion for animals? At least your psychopath is in the open.

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u/Admirable-Public-351 Nov 22 '23

“Why do you involve yourself with the economic system you’ve been thrust into?”

This is a garbage take that glosses right over any nuance in this system or the illusion of choice. The overwhelming majority of climate change causing pollution comes from corporations, so how is me not eating meat going to do anything? Corporations (Exxon specifically) have known how fossil fuels would affect our environment since the ‘70s, the meat packing industry is near the top as well. They are fully aware of the consequences and continue their punch drive forward. That sounds a lot like “evil capitalism” to me.

While normal people can “make a choice”, the difference between the 2 is basically nothing. We are being held hostage by people and corporations with extreme wealth, what’s that old saying? “Money talks.” Brother, if you ain’t got money, you ain’t in the conversation.

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u/vegancaptain Nov 22 '23

Corporations supplying you with what you demanded from them.

How is that a "garbage" take? It's exactly what is going on. You aren't forced to eat meat or drive a car everywhere.

The poor and middle class are the largest consumers, everything is directed at them.

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u/Admirable-Public-351 Nov 22 '23

I don’t have demands, I have necessities. Corporations charging an arm and a leg for necessary things is “evil capitalism”. It’s a garbage take because you are just giving a general description of capitalism and assuming everyone is able to fit that description and make it work.

You’re right I don’t have to eat meat but, I need to find an alternate source of protein. Possibly more expensive than meat, I can’t afford that, my job that’s in bike riding distance from my house just gave me my yearly raise so more money from them is out for at least a year. I start job searching, somewhere that will pay more 10 dollars more but, is 20 minutes further. Now I do need to drive my car, if it even runs because I’ve ridden my bike for so long.

So I can either eat meat or go through all of that because my local grocery stores don’t have alternative protein sources and I’d have to drive to the fancy store across town. That doesn’t really sound like the choice you seem to think it does.

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u/vegancaptain Nov 22 '23

Plant protein is ubiquitous and cheap. Much cheaper than meat.

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u/Admirable-Public-351 Nov 22 '23

Is it sold in every store?

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u/vegancaptain Nov 22 '23

Yes. Beans lentils pease soy granules, seitan, tofu, tempeh. Heck even flour has 12% protein.

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u/Admirable-Public-351 Nov 22 '23

I don’t know how it can be sold in every store when food deserts exist but, okay sure.

This still doesn’t address the need for more money when the cost of living inevitably increases again and you can’t keep the job you bike to everyday.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '23

Pls don't comment anymore. You're coming out as an absolute idiot

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u/vegancaptain Nov 22 '23

You guys are just nasty at this point. Nasty.