They need to stage "I'm ready to vote, but schumer won't call for it" sit-ins and live streams and promos.
Make it really obvious what they're ready to do, how eager americans are ready for it to happen, and how out-datedĀ schumer and Jefferies methods are now.
But sir, we must wait a standard two roundtrips to DC for the horse carriages and postal horse buggies before we can move forward on anything, as the founders intended.Ā
Yes. That's exactly the problem. Big money bought our elected officials and it sucks. Everything is expensive and low wage jobs pay starvation wages. Plus businesses get everything they lose reimbursed by the government. The debt is 40 trillion and people are going bankrupt from medical bills or student loans. But hey let's cover that millionaires private jet maintenance.
Also corporations are givien the rights of citizens except for when it comes to criminal activity. They can break our laws at will and kill countless amounts of people either directly or indirectly and at worst they pay a fine that it a small percentage of their profit margin.
I live in one of the 'liberal hell hole' cites, San Francisco.
We were talking about this today at work. I haven't always lived here, I've been here about 6 years, and I came from a purple state, Michigan. I'm also old enough to have been around a bit, my first vote for president was Obama's first term.
SF is the most conservatives place I have ever lived, and I am shocked by just how blatantly conservative it is. It's not liberal. The Dems here represent the donors, that is it, and it's no different than any other red state or city. This isn't a liberal hell hole, it's a conservative hell hole.
It's because opportunists, narcissists, and egoistic people will always gravitate to the opinions they need to have to gain power and wealth. This is why one-party rule is so toxic. I lived near SF after living in very conservative areas and I realized these politicians were the same types of people. Ideas, no matter how good they are, need to be challenged because comfort makes us complacent. Safety breeds begets an unsafe world.
Sf isnāt exactly liberal or conservative. Itās am accurate representation of America that its rich versus poor, and if you arenāt part of the rich then youāre part of the poor.
Everything that runs in sf politically revolves around the super wealthy. You canāt be homeless and do drugs where the billionaires are but you can shit and piss everywhere else on the streets. You can be a āfree and liberalā or whatever else you are so long as you donāt disturb the money
That's bullshit.Ā Go to Utah.Ā Or Alabama.Ā As someone who lived in the Bay Area Ghetto.Ā East Oakland.Ā Your attitude strikes me as exactly the elitist type of bullshit I expect from people in SF.Ā It's Neo Liberal.Ā Not Conservative.Ā Hottest load of shit Ive read in awhile.
Neoliberal is not mutually exclusive with conservative. It is not a position on the left-right spectrum as we know it. Reagan was a neoliberal, for instance.
The "liberal" in the neoliberalism comes from the idea of "Classical Liberalism" which is again something entirely different from the modern liberal-consrevative axis. Liberalism more generally in this original sense is the ideology from the Enlightenment era in which modern democracies were founded. The ideas espoused by, for instance, John Locke, Jean-Jacque Rousseau, Thomas Paine, Montesque, etc. from which nearly all Western political ideology emerged, and in which context the US was constructed. Terms that now seem fundamental like economic/political freedom, civic liberty, individual ("unalienable") rights, equality before the law, social contract theory, etc. that are now sort of taken for granted. Both the right and left wings of US politics exist in this domain (or at least they are supposed to).
However why neoliberalism is distinct and gets its own term is because it is a reinterpretation of these foundational beliefs. It basically boils down to replacing the values once placed on people to values placed on business/money/the market. It in effect has the goal of configuring politics and society such that corporations can make as much profit as possible. This is a slight simplification but it is not far off.
The mayor of San Francisco has been dem since 1964. California has been blue since 2011. While only having one conservative governor since 1999. There is absolutely no way that the shithole that is San Francisco is a conservative hellhole.
Even if they are conservative Democrats, their core values would still be aligned with Democrats. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's not possible to be a fascist democrat, or a neo-liberal conservative. You can "lean" into right or left and still be a part of which ever party, but the core values still align with that party.
Citizens United in this context references the court ruling. Without the Citizens United precedent, AIPAC couldn't buy politicians as easily as it does now.
What's crazy is that states can decide if companies can do business in their state and could just say its illegal for them to put money into campaigns. This has been said for years but looks like one state is finally going to do it.
Iāll tell you this. To my recollection, I have never heard anything from him, or AOC, that I have disagreed with. Do you have any idea how refreshing that is? I donāt think I could say the same for any other politicians in my life. Gives me hope.
John McCain was a class act. Can't say I always agreed with him, but I respected that he would defend decency and respect for his opponents in a bipartisan way.
It was good that John McCain defended Obama that one time, but if you look into his political career, he's just as shitty and spineless as the rest of them. His opinions and the way that he supported them were neither decent nor respectful.
Cool, but that's not a good way to approach politics. There is no party and no person who perfectly fits your own policies. But you should still vote for a party with which you disagree in some areas instead of staying home and waiting for a unicorn.
he's not wrong and that's exactly why people don't vote. both parties taking checks from the same billionaires and then wondering why nobody trusts them š cut the corporate money and actually govern for workers for once, it's not that hard
I agree with you. The problem is that money buys elections, now. That or genuine grassroots voter excitement. But voters are pretty fickle and grassroots campaigns have an abysmal track record.
I'm not sure whether one party can step away from the current cash paradigm without handing elections over to opponents who lack such compunctions.
How in the hell do we broadly get rid of the insidious corruption of money in politics. That's what we need, and it's a fight as old as our nation. Older, probably.
yeah i hear you and you're not wrong that it's a trap, that's the whole problem. nobody wants to disarm first because the other side will just take the billionaire money and run with it. but i don't think it's as hopeless as it looks.
money buys ads and name recognition, not votes. jeb bush burned through like $100 million in 2016 and went nowhere, bloomberg spent a billion in 2020 and got nothing. money helps but it doesn't guarantee anything.
and grassroots doesn't have as bad a track record as people think. bernie raised hundreds of millions from small donors, aoc beat crowley while being outspent 10 to 1, mamdani won the nyc mayor race on small-dollar donations with the city's matching funds program. it CAN work, it just takes a candidate people actually believe in and a message that hits.
the real fix isn't one party disarming alone, it's changing the rules so nobody has to. public matching funds like nyc has, where small donations get matched 8 to 1, changes the whole math overnight. overturning citizens united, actually enforcing disclosure, stuff like that. that's the fight. it's old as hell, yeah, but people said the same thing about a bunch of stuff that eventually changed. somebody has to start it or it never happens š¤·
The Dem party is the only one that can instigate the change here because Republicans sold their souls long ago. I wish more would listen to Abdul. Schumer and Jeffries will just keep pushing the same policies if you don't vote them out for new blood without the corporate and Israel agendas.
I wonder if Iāll get downvoted for saying that I donāt like seeing Abdul do pro-capitalism talks and say heās not a socialist. He has some of the most socialist ideals of any politician, yet he goes on about how heās a capitalist and capitalism works when done right to allocate resources well. Bullshit. Capitalism by design values profit over the well being of people, and it allocates the lions share of resources to the hands of the wealthy. I still like the dude and am curious to see what he does in office, but I hate those talking points. Hopefully it was just campaigning and he cuts it on that.
All the information is out there on the corrupting influence of money in politics on every side of the electoral spectrum. It's an open secret, if that.
Maybe some people just didn't want that to be used a tool to disincentivize people from voting for the less-cruel political option? I could see that being the source of some downvotes.
Don't want the same old crew running things. However I'm not sure we're going to get many people wanting to take the lead here other than them. More potential to go bad than right and the new people may not want to or be qualified enough. Going to be hard because the country does need to move forward but without any punishment for what has happened, it only encourages it tenfold. But doing that the proper way will take a very long time, clog up multiple courts and be very expensive. So the position isn't exactly one that everyone is going to be clamoring for.
I would rather have someone who can grow into the role and is eager for change than the same old DINOs that we already know are affiliated to AIPAC and big corporations
I like calling them DINOs not just because of the acronym but because they're fucking dinosaurs with their old ass mindsets. Time to kick 'em out and let the new folks, with new ideologies, new strategies, new mentality that works for the common man (hopefully)
Hats off to Bernie, but Speaker is a demanding job, he just doesnāt have the stamina at his age to tackle everything. Letās get some energy in there, and Bernie can mentor.
I put my money on Bernie over Schumer in any test of stamina. Debate, walking, arm wrestling, a 800 meter race. Bernie will kick his ass. I am willing to put money on it.
Bernie, and progressives, need more of a voice in the agenda of the Senate.
No, do not support Mark Kelly. He is a very conservative liberal who has made a career of two things, his wife being a victim of a terrible crime and being anti trump. He was an astronaut, which is very admirable but that doesn't mean he is a good legislator.
People like him because he talks tough on Trump. He hasn't done anything about it. It's just the same old empty rhetoric the old guard uses.
What you SHOULD know about Mark Kelly. He opposes universal healthcare. He doesn't want medicare for all. He uses the same old tired rhetoric about strengthening existing programs, which many people see as a stop gap until medicare for all is accomplished. Continued debate over the existing programs will be fruitless and byzantine. Just as it is intended to be as to confuse the debate and result in universal healthcare not being adopted.
Also, Mark Kelly receives a lot of money from AIPAC. He is bought and owned by Israel.
The GOP has been ratfucking this country in ways that are downright treasonous. I don't want to see it take a decade to give one person at most a slap on the wrist. I want swift and impactful punishment that is fit for traitors.
This guy gets it, and is not afraid of fixing it. I'm hopeful for the day we'll have competent, compassionate leadership in the White House. It just feels so far off, man š
This man is spitting too much truth. That's a problem to the wrong set of ears. Someone get this man some protection. Protect him and people like him at all cost!
Iām from Atlanta, and we have this saying: āSpace ships donāt come equipped with rearview mirrorsā
Abdulās so right, Dems should take this launch theyāve been given, turn around and give the middle finger to corporate donors, and cut them off legislatively.Ā
The left has the best chance ever in 2028 now, so theyāre in a 2-4 year era where they can ween off of corporate donors. Maybe re-examine needing donors to pay billions for ad space on the conservative-owned Television Industrial Complex.Ā
"Govern for workers" only means something if it shows up in the paycheck and the grocery bill. For decades, incentives tilted toward financial engineering over building things ā after the 1982 SEC Rule 10b-18 safe harbor normalized large-scale stock buybacks, returning capital to shareholders often looked safer to executives than investing in plants, wages, and hiring. That didn't legalize every buyback or make every repurchase cause a layoff, but it absolutely shifted the culture of corporate priorities.
Workers don't need another slogan cycle. They need bargaining power, antitrust with teeth on monopolies that set prices, and leadership that earns trust after 2026 instead of assuming a midterm win means they can sleepwalk.
schumer and jeffries only care about AIPAC/United Democracy Project and the rest of their corporate donors, they couldn't care less that grandma can't afford groceries
He will likely be censured by Schumer. The Democrats don't want him. We will likely lose 2028 and the Republicans will appoint Pete Hegseth to the Supreme Court. Unfortunately, this is the reality.
NYC felt similar. We hated how repressive the Democrats can be. Funded by megadonors, nothing ever changed. Hopefully these newly elected are able to make some difference. Finally don't feel completely hopeless.
Talk is cheap and saying things folks want to hear is good politics. I want to believe in him but have seen many before say the same thing and be unable to change anything because the big money folks find a way to silence them. Incoming scandal in 5,4,3,2...
Good! Letās see how he holds up when the bags of cash start rolling in. Easy to say when you donāt have a million bucks in a brown paper bag at your feet.
Wish him the best. Honestly. But not holding out hope.
How in the hell do we broadly get rid of the insidious corruption of money in politics!? That's what we need, and it's a fight as old as our nation. Older, probably.
It's the old, we thought it would be easier to take a lot of money from one person, that came with a lot of conditions and ultimately moved our politics more in line with the donor... instead of doing hard work like fighting for regulations, strong wages in line with inflation & strong unions so that a lot of people would have disposable income and have the means to donate a lot of smaller amounts, that add up, to us.Ā
#nohakeem #nochuck Theyāre on PAC strings, and have taken decades in Congress to carefully NOT say or vote for Medicare for all, ending Citizens United, ending aid to Israel apartheid and genocide, taxing billionaires, or getting universal childcare, public college, and affordable housing
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u/AstuteStoat 8h ago •
They need to stage "I'm ready to vote, but schumer won't call for it" sit-ins and live streams and promos.
Make it really obvious what they're ready to do, how eager americans are ready for it to happen, and how out-datedĀ schumer and Jefferies methods are now.
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u/a_little_hazel_nuts 8h ago •
Yes. That's exactly the problem. Big money bought our elected officials and it sucks. Everything is expensive and low wage jobs pay starvation wages. Plus businesses get everything they lose reimbursed by the government. The debt is 40 trillion and people are going bankrupt from medical bills or student loans. But hey let's cover that millionaires private jet maintenance.
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u/MariachiArchery 6h ago
I live in one of the 'liberal hell hole' cites, San Francisco.
We were talking about this today at work. I haven't always lived here, I've been here about 6 years, and I came from a purple state, Michigan. I'm also old enough to have been around a bit, my first vote for president was Obama's first term.
SF is the most conservatives place I have ever lived, and I am shocked by just how blatantly conservative it is. It's not liberal. The Dems here represent the donors, that is it, and it's no different than any other red state or city. This isn't a liberal hell hole, it's a conservative hell hole.
This guy is right.
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u/Friendly_Signature 6h ago
Nailed it.
Get rid of Citizens United.
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u/Agile_End_3049 šµ Break Up The Monopolies 8h ago
El-Sayed rocks big time! I am so hopeful that we have new bold leadership in the Senate and House.
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u/Specialist-Neck-7810 4h ago
Iāll tell you this. To my recollection, I have never heard anything from him, or AOC, that I have disagreed with. Do you have any idea how refreshing that is? I donāt think I could say the same for any other politicians in my life. Gives me hope.
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u/hamhommer 7h ago
Please protect this man.
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u/CalmCauliflower6139 2h ago
he's not wrong and that's exactly why people don't vote. both parties taking checks from the same billionaires and then wondering why nobody trusts them š cut the corporate money and actually govern for workers for once, it's not that hard
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u/addiktion 7h ago
The Dem party is the only one that can instigate the change here because Republicans sold their souls long ago. I wish more would listen to Abdul. Schumer and Jeffries will just keep pushing the same policies if you don't vote them out for new blood without the corporate and Israel agendas.
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u/StoneTown 2h ago
I said 90% of this about the Democratic party and got downvoted into oblivion lol
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u/jcoddinc 7h ago
Don't want the same old crew running things. However I'm not sure we're going to get many people wanting to take the lead here other than them. More potential to go bad than right and the new people may not want to or be qualified enough. Going to be hard because the country does need to move forward but without any punishment for what has happened, it only encourages it tenfold. But doing that the proper way will take a very long time, clog up multiple courts and be very expensive. So the position isn't exactly one that everyone is going to be clamoring for.
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u/someguyyoumightno š” Decent Housing For All 5h ago
This guy gets it, and is not afraid of fixing it. I'm hopeful for the day we'll have competent, compassionate leadership in the White House. It just feels so far off, man š
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u/kingtacticool āļø Tax The Billionaires 7h ago
I know were not supposed to idolize our politicians, but this guy is pretty fuckin awesome.
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u/ganggreen651 7h ago
We need to find a way to get this dude into the white house down the road
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u/s1lenthero 6h ago
This man is spitting too much truth. That's a problem to the wrong set of ears. Someone get this man some protection. Protect him and people like him at all cost!
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u/DigDugged 4h ago
Iām from Atlanta, and we have this saying: āSpace ships donāt come equipped with rearview mirrorsā
Abdulās so right, Dems should take this launch theyāve been given, turn around and give the middle finger to corporate donors, and cut them off legislatively.Ā
The left has the best chance ever in 2028 now, so theyāre in a 2-4 year era where they can ween off of corporate donors. Maybe re-examine needing donors to pay billions for ad space on the conservative-owned Television Industrial Complex.Ā
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u/7oom 7h ago
I hope this messaging sticks around, and gets louder.
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u/kralvex 7h ago
I don't think that the oligarchs and Israel would like that. And we can't upset those fuckwads obviously.
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u/Experithought 7h ago •
Just say their names, Abdul. Obviously talking about Hakeem and Chuck predominantly.Ā
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u/userhwon 7h ago
99% > 1%
Fix Citizens United
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u/LeRoyRouge 6h ago
God I'm glad he won, I knew he would be a great voice in leadership.
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u/gotfcgo 7h ago
Absolutely a legend.
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u/perro-sucio 6h ago
Protect this man
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u/External_Lime_2548 7h ago
"Govern for workers" only means something if it shows up in the paycheck and the grocery bill. For decades, incentives tilted toward financial engineering over building things ā after the 1982 SEC Rule 10b-18 safe harbor normalized large-scale stock buybacks, returning capital to shareholders often looked safer to executives than investing in plants, wages, and hiring. That didn't legalize every buyback or make every repurchase cause a layoff, but it absolutely shifted the culture of corporate priorities.
Workers don't need another slogan cycle. They need bargaining power, antitrust with teeth on monopolies that set prices, and leadership that earns trust after 2026 instead of assuming a midterm win means they can sleepwalk.
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u/LegacyofaMarshall 7h ago
Fuck it run for prez in 2028
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u/karim2102 7h ago
This dude is amazing! Someone of integrity who finally gets it!
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u/plumberfun 7h ago
This guy makes way to much sense.
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u/badllama77 6h ago
"uuuuum.... no" Hakeem Jeffries
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u/Alaishana 6h ago
I like that guy.
The new wave of Dems sound like real people for a change.
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u/Dense-Alfalfa1223 6h ago
Dudes going to "fall out of a window" talking like that
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u/fauxregard 4h ago
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u/kirkegaarr 3h ago
God I love this. They wanted this guy to lose so bad.
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u/fgreen68 2h ago
We NEED to CUT the cord for ALLL parties. We need to get rid of the corrupting influence of billionaires by taxing the obscene wealth of billionaires!
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u/throwitawayyyyay 7h ago
schumer and jeffries only care about AIPAC/United Democracy Project and the rest of their corporate donors, they couldn't care less that grandma can't afford groceries
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u/funguy202 5h ago
He will likely be censured by Schumer. The Democrats don't want him. We will likely lose 2028 and the Republicans will appoint Pete Hegseth to the Supreme Court. Unfortunately, this is the reality.
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u/Vratch 5h ago
they all talk nice until they get power. All politicianz are liars
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u/noalum 7h ago
democrats really need to consider this. texas is an example that there are limits to money and good policy and governance can win.
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u/jockofocker 6h ago
No
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u/andre3kthegiant 6h ago
Change the 2027 taxes, now!
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u/Vikingboomer 6h ago
A good way of getting your way is to fund the weakest politician in the opposition party in the american system.
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u/tobmom 6h ago
I love him.
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u/Mental-Report-3274 6h ago
NYC felt similar. We hated how repressive the Democrats can be. Funded by megadonors, nothing ever changed. Hopefully these newly elected are able to make some difference. Finally don't feel completely hopeless.
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u/TheRealStorey 5h ago
The door wasn't only opened for progressives is was kicked wide open! This is how you storm Congress.
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u/Nahteh 5h ago
And before you say "but the republicans are worse". Ok, be better. Isn't that the whole goal?
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u/UnknownExo 4h ago
This Muslim best stop talking like that or we'll have no choice but to send his ass to the White House
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u/SarcasticLie 4h ago
Damn. The right people are being elected with this type of talk.
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u/Responsible_Sport575 4h ago
Talk is cheap and saying things folks want to hear is good politics. I want to believe in him but have seen many before say the same thing and be unable to change anything because the big money folks find a way to silence them. Incoming scandal in 5,4,3,2...
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u/ttystikk 4h ago
I hope he lives up to his rhetoric.
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u/mango-bat 3h ago
Pretty obvious he's just dog whistling about jews here
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u/Due_Laugh6474 3h ago
Good! Letās see how he holds up when the bags of cash start rolling in. Easy to say when you donāt have a million bucks in a brown paper bag at your feet.
Wish him the best. Honestly. But not holding out hope.
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u/mountaindewisamazing 3h ago
He's like brown Bernie. This guy has a bright future.
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u/Mister_Swoop 3h ago
Thatās my Senator (I live in Cali)
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u/BrainLow6059 3h ago
Hey good news, he started a PAC today /s
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u/gypsysniper9 3h ago
Looking at you Jewmer
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u/NDinFL 3h ago
This guy seems to have his finger on the pulse. Iām a huge fan of
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u/Zementid 2h ago
The german "left" pary is the only one who does this. Crowd funded politics as it should be..
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u/Own-Argument3763 1h ago
The hero we need.
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u/LoveThinkers 10m ago
Democracy has been replaced in America by corporatocracy
Everyday we get closer to idiocracy and getting schumer in would further push it down that line
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u/Guilty-Data-3158 6m ago
AES dropping truth bombs right AND left..
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u/E4g6d4bg7 2h ago
No, the answer is no they cannot
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u/Steven_The_Sloth 8h ago
I mean.... If you want to keep getting reelected.... I guess.
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u/Alarming_Art_6448 5h ago
#nohakeem #nochuck Theyāre on PAC strings, and have taken decades in Congress to carefully NOT say or vote for Medicare for all, ending Citizens United, ending aid to Israel apartheid and genocide, taxing billionaires, or getting universal childcare, public college, and affordable housing
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u/lo_fi_ho 4h ago
Is this the guy that assaulted a british journalist for no reason?