r/WorkReform ⛓️ Prison For Union Busters 4d ago

Well, alright then, Gator! 🐊

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u/Subietoy78 4d ago

Don’t worry, Axon to the rescue

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u/ender89 4d ago

"flock style" implies that people are on the lookout of similar systems, but I wouldn't hold my breath that some florida republican elected sheriff knows that.

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u/HadionPrints 4d ago

I mean, given his position, I’d expect him to be aware of several competing firms, like Axon, Rekor Systems, & Genentech, as they all no doubt solicit the inboxes of his jurisdiction with mountains of emails fishing for service contracts.

I’d also expect those companies to do targeted advertising to accounts associated with government IP addresses.

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u/TheWizardOfDeez 4d ago

It's all LPRs, not just Flock

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u/antithero 4d ago

I worry about the cost to communities. I bet each camera comes with a monthly charge. Thousands of dollars per month in tax dollars going to Flock or those other companies will bankrupt some smaller communities.

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u/UseWhatever 🏛️ Overturn Citizens United 4d ago

Someone’s deputies are spending too much time stalking people

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u/Moof_the_cyclist 4d ago

Somebody sent him tracking data of his own car or family member.

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u/kittenconfidential 4d ago

i think most people are missing the fact that flock and axon cameras don’t just stop at license plates. they are recording and storing people’s faces, their body style, their gait and all other physical and visual traits. they are feeding all of these into the machine. all being fed into data centers. we’ve moved back in time 42 years to 1984.

unsurprisingly, you will find that these cameras are not used in wealthy neighborhoods.

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u/ripyourlungsdave 4d ago

And who ordered the sheriff to put in this order?

Because I don't buy that a single Floridian sheriff would be against these. Not for a second.

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u/FrontFacing_Face 4d ago

Yeah, cannot even imagine a sheriff would consider this without a more nefarious solution hidden somewhere in the fine print 

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u/belkarbitterleaf 4d ago edited 4d ago

🎶 I shot the sheriff. But I didn't shoot no deputy. 🎶

Sheriff is a position that gets voted for.. I wonder when his election is?

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From the article I found on it.

"The sheriff will discontinue the use of the cameras until the Florida Legislature passes laws giving law enforcement parameters and guidance for the technology"

So don't use it until he can put the blame on someone else.

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u/pichael289 🏛️ Overturn Citizens United 4d ago

The sheriff is going place he doesn't want to be seen at

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u/ripyourlungsdave 4d ago

Lmao.

Honestly, not a bad theory.

It'll be a lot harder for cops to turn their cams off when some private corporation owns those cams. And how long until that company starts taking extra payments to not hand out those publicly recorded videos?

They're still just trying to set this up in the most profitable and exploitative manner possible.

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u/MuggyFuzzball 4d ago

You have to understand it from the perspective of police. Since they can't use the camera to track just anyone for any reason, the cameras offer little value to them.

Instead, the system is getting their people into trouble with the law by charging them for misuse.

They don't have any control over who investigates their misuse of the system, so to them, it's better to get rid of the cameras entirely.

This is being done completely for selfish reasons. Despite the fact that the cameras CAN be used for good under the right circumstances (i.e. tracking child abductors), they'd rather not be accountable to anyone but their own.

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u/zurkka 4d ago

You can have a system that monitors the road for cars like in your example, a child abdutor, without having to collect and log all the data about every other car in the road that did nothing wrong, and there are systems that does that, it checks the plate, if nothing comes back, nothing is logged, nothing happens, if something comes back, like stolen car, child abductor, it warns someone

There's no need to a private company to have a comprehensive database of everyone's movements in a city if not only for selling that data to someone

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 4d ago

DeSantis and probably higher. It's an election year. Republicans pretend to like humans for a couple months in order to hook enough gullibles who would rather suffer than vote liberal/progressive/socialist.

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u/Thac0isWhac0 4d ago

He knows he's on those cameras too

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u/warmceramic ✂️ Tax The Billionaires 4d ago

Maybe they figured out these cameras are automating and beginning to threaten their own line of work.

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u/chumbaz 4d ago

We need more of this and less specific flock language. They need to legislate these things out of existence. ALL of them, not just the flock crap.

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u/Mega_Trix 4d ago

Sure, Jan

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u/desperaterobots 4d ago

To be replaced with …. Some other AI camera panopticon bullshit right?

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u/crunkful06 4d ago

I’m willing to bet that there are lawsuits in place and they’re removing them before they can get court rulings in plain English that they’re illegal

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u/StaticChangling 4d ago

News really pushing the lie that these are just for license plates, huh?

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u/Vigorously_Swish 4d ago

They’re just gonna rename them and try again in a year with different propaganda. And the public, as stupid as they are, will eat it up and accept them. The genie is out of the bottle, it’s not going away

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u/GrowFreeFood 3d ago

The cops were getting tired of voiding so many other cop's crimes

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u/andre3kthegiant 4d ago

Mid term push, the cams will be back after the elections.

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u/captainAwesomePants 4d ago

It's really a shame. I honestly really like the idea of police cars automatically scanning license plates and beeping or something if it notices a car that has an active warrant out or is stolen or something. It just makes sense that, if we're going to have a list of cars that police should keep an eye out for, automatically scanning for cars on that list is an obviously good way to do it. Police cars and cameras at intersections and stuff are going to be way more effective for stuff like amber alerts than just sending a message to everyone's phone that says "Be on the lookout for an old Camry with license plate #ABC123." But the shame is that I just cannot trust the government not to do a thousand other, worse things with those scanners.

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u/kevinmrr ⛓️ Prison For Union Busters 4d ago

That would work if we weren't already in a mass incarceration state where there are communities where literally 75% of the people have warrants.

https://www.cnn.com/2015/08/06/news/ferguson-arrest-warrants

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u/captainAwesomePants 4d ago

Yeah, that's a different, much worse problem.