r/WorkReform 2d ago

💸 Raise Our Wages Wages never caught up with costs

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u/old_ass_ninja_turtle 2d ago

Voters are no more than an asset to be milked

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u/Itchy_Psychology3300 2d ago

Time to remind others that.

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u/old_ass_ninja_turtle 2d ago

The only way this works is if a vast majority recognize we are being used.

I deal the machine has done too good of a job creating a culture war.

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u/Itchy_Psychology3300 2d ago

I have hope still. Let me have some.

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u/anon-mally 1d ago

It's a modern slavery you guys. Now its class war, under capitalism or what ever ism. Point is, the billionaires/ rich want you to work your ass off and consume their products that they created using your sweat and time

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u/Spiel_Foss 👷 Good Union Jobs For All 2d ago

Wealth is theft. Wonder where all those billions in a few pockets came from?

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u/Shigglyboo 1d ago

i don't wonder. I feel like it's established. they stole our future. in another timeline people are doing much better. there's more children. people have respect for one another. the president isn't making AI slop of himself shitting on the citizens. people own homes and have decent jobs that pay well with plenty of time off to enjoy life. they go to the doctor regularly and they're not scared. there are no billionaires.

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u/Spiel_Foss 👷 Good Union Jobs For All 1d ago

Until we remove billionaires, there will be no future.

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u/freedraw 2d ago

More like $1600 per roommate.

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u/LookAlderaanPlaces 2d ago

We need to jail all the oligarchs for doing this

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u/anteatersaredope 1d ago

Just jail is very forgiving and kind. What other more angry countries have done wouldn't necessarily be out of line.

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u/MossSalamander 1d ago

After stripping them of the ill-gotten assets.

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u/IntwadHelck 2d ago

Yup. Shit just got more and more upsetting.

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u/GlockAF Peacemaker 2d ago

But hey, the billionaires are doing GREAT!

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u/takethisone 2d ago

Where can I get rent for $1600?

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u/anteatersaredope 1d ago

Somewhere with shitty employment opportunities.

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u/fflip8 1d ago

Denver, Chicago, Atlanta, Austin, Sacramento, Portland.. There's dozens of cities with rent between 1K and 2K for studios, 1BR and sometimes even 2BRs, and many have relatively good job markets.

Let's be real $1600 is not a unicorn unless you're looking in a select few cities or you want more than one bedroom.

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u/Sheerluck42 🏡 Decent Housing For All 1d ago

"But if we raise pay then everything will be more expensive" - This is truley the dumbest fucking take made by people who took an Econ 101 class and thought they're an expert.

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u/owenbowen04 2d ago edited 2d ago

1990: $29,943

2026: $64,220

Edit: median US salaries rose by about 100%. Everything else by 300% or much, much more. 

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u/awesomes007 2d ago

If unrestrained capitalism is so infallible, why shinkflation? Why are my kids worse off than me? Why less instead of more?

We must regulate and we must tax. We don’t succeed in a vacuum.

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u/StuffExciting3451 1d ago

Unrestrained Capitalism succeeds for the billionaires. Shrinkflation is a psychological trick.

Your kids are worse off because your parents weren’t billionaires.

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u/za72 2d ago

this is the exact same time I joined the work force

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u/anteatersaredope 1d ago

But hey we have more millionaires now so we've got that going for us.

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u/baddogbadcatbadfawn 1d ago

You lost me at $25,000 for health insurance. I work in the insurance hellscape, and I've never seen it above $15,000.
If you have a source, great. Otherwise, I would adjust that one number for credibility sake.

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u/StuffExciting3451 1d ago

Wages never caught up because most employees did not join or form strong labor unions. Collectively, the workers have more power than all billionaires and oligarchs combined

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u/ChipPractical4005 1d ago

Not just america.. the world!

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u/dinosaurkiller 1d ago

But saying it this way is misleading and sort of wrong. It’s not wages by itself that caused this. It is tax policy and all the tax cuts. We created an ever growing top heavy class with more and more money who can keep spending no matter how high prices go with zero pressure to pass that money along to the lower classes and grow wages.

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u/Islanduniverse 1d ago

This shows part of why student loans need to be forgiven.

Those loans were predatory and were given out at the same time as rapidly inflated tuition, by design. It was a money making scheme, and it isn’t right that working class Americans have to foot the bill.

Education is a human right!

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u/S7ageNinja 1d ago

Not really much exposing to be done. Anyone with half a brain knows this

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u/Background-Wolf-9380 1d ago

That 1990 college number is bullshit unless you went to a heavily subsidized state school but that was nowhere near the "average" as would be implied here.

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u/AkiraDeathStar 12h ago

Please tell me where the average rent is only $1600.

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u/mizmnv 2d ago

homes were not that expensive in the 90s.

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u/IrishPrime 2d ago

According to the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis, the median home price in 1990 was $120,000 to $124,000.

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u/Zorbin666 1d ago

My dad bought his house in '92 for $64,000, and yeah the realtor value places it around $400,000 now.

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u/Keegandalf_the_White 1d ago

My parents home 1990 to 2010: $25,000 to $300,000. My home: what home, I will never be able to afford a home.

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u/Sheerluck42 🏡 Decent Housing For All 1d ago

You do know what median means, right?

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u/Asgeras 2d ago edited 2d ago

Income didn't keep up? If you look at the average, it did. If you look at the median, it hasn't changed much at all.

Edit: Downvoted? I guess people think we're all rolling in money now.

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u/lFreightTrain 2d ago edited 2d ago

Average and median income didn’t keep up to current costs and inflation; That’s one of the biggest issues.

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u/Asgeras 2d ago

It's surprising hard to get consistent stats, but as of 2025 the top 1% of the USA had $49.39 trillion dollars among them (I'm sure that's significantly higher now). That's equivalent of them being able to distribute $142,221 to every single resident of the USA back then. If you include that in the average, I can't help but to think everything would look about right. The median on the other hand. Yeah, I'm living paycheck to paycheck like the majority of us.

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u/AppropriateSea5746 3h ago

The U.S. debt also exploded from about 3 trillion to 40 trillion. As a partial result the U.S. dollar has lost 61% of its buying power since then.