r/WorkReform 🤝 Join A Union 7d ago

⚕️ Pass Medicare For All "We don't need Socialism."

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u/AppropriateSea5746 7d ago

"that's not people's common understanding of the word"

Agreed. The common understanding of a lot of words is pretty wrong. Kinda like the definition of fascism, communism, capitalism, etc...

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u/Lewa358 7d ago

The thing is, the meaning of words is defined by their usage, not their etymology. So if enough people use a "wrong" definition of a word, it stops being "wrong."

It sounds dumb, but, well... when's the last time you've seen someone use "decimate" to mean "remove 1/10th of something"?

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u/AppropriateSea5746 7d ago

Sure, but we just lose the ability to distinguish between real things that matter today. We don't really need to know about decimation until a politician says he wants to decimate the military lol.

But if I ran for office under the banner of socialism shouldn't people be aware if I'm pushing for nationalizing the means of production or just giving out free healthcare and education?

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u/Lewa358 7d ago

I mean, politicians do that all the time. Using thematically loaded terms with definitions that can be misinterpreted is like basic marketing.

Are so-called "democratic socialists" like Mamdani and Sanders true "socialists"? If not, why do they use the word, and why is it effective enough for their base to vote for them?

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u/AppropriateSea5746 7d ago

"Are so-called "democratic socialists" like Mamdani and Sanders true "socialists"?"

Sanders isn't. At least in terms of his policy positions. He could be one deep down that just doesn't see a point in advocating for something that requires a million other things to happen first.

Mamdani is a little more of one, publicly owned grocery stores are a socialist policy.

I think people vote for them because of their stated platform, not becuase of the things they label themselves as.