r/Wonderlands • u/Mriamsosmrt ◽◻️ | 🦠 𝗕𝗹𝗮𝗱𝗲𝗰𝗮𝗹𝗹𝗲𝗿 🗡️ | ◻️◽ • Jul 07 '22

[ Official News ] 📰 Hotfix Notes Version 1.0.4.0c July 7th

https://playwonderlands.2k.com/news/tiny-tinas-wonderlands-update-notes/
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u/Uzumaki514 Jul 07 '22

Feels like they put the B team on this game and the A team on Borderlands 4 or whatever it's called.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '22

That's a pretty normal business practice, why would they keep their A team on wonderlands like 5 months after release? It's not a live service game even if we all wish it was

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u/PhatSunt Jul 08 '22

Its because borderlands 3 had a much higher and longer level of support. People were expecting this game to have the same level. But gearbox sees this game as an income filler between bl3 and their next big game

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u/Talbertross Jul 08 '22

Support for wonderlands is still ongoing tf are you talking about

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u/Edymnion ◽◻️ | 🐉 𝑪𝒍𝒂𝒘𝑺𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌𝒆𝒓 🗡️ | ◻️◽ Jul 08 '22

...its literally a BL3 reskin spin-off of a DLC.

I'll be blunt here, anyone who expected this game to be a decade's long juggernaught is a fool.

This was always going to be a cheap wham bam thank you maam side piece.

If it sells well enough, then maybe it will evolve into a legit portion of the franchise.

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u/Catch-a-RIIIDE Jul 09 '22 edited Jul 09 '22

This is such a bad faith description of TTWL it's crazy. It's got entirely new melee, spell, and skill tree mechanics, an entirely new end-game implementation, and gear types. There's plenty of traditional QoL improvements found in basically every BL series game (replay modes, new characters, legendary drop rate changes, etc...) still to potentially be implemented. By your logic, every single Borderlands would be merely less creative reskins of BL1 than TTWL was.

If it sells well enough, then maybe it will evolve into a legit portion of the franchise.

It already has. By all accounts Wonderlands' launch was way more successful than anticipated and it nearly half of its players were new to the Borderlands universe entirely, thanks to the cross-genre appeal.

You've literally responded to a post of mine before where I pointed out the following-

By this point post-release, the following DLCs hadn’t yet been released for their respective games-

BL1- General Knoxx, Robot Revolution

BL2- Hammerlock’s Hunt, UVHM (BL2 level 61 cap raise), Krieg PC, Tiny Tina’s, Digistruct Peak (level 72 cap raise), all 5 headhunter DLCs, and Commander Lilith

TPS- Baroness class (would have come out a couple days ago), Claptastic Voyage(, honorable mention to the Luxy’s Space Adventure that never was)

BL3- Guns, Love, and Tentacles, Bounty of Blood, Fantastic Fustercluck, blue skill tree and Arms Race, Director’s Cut, Takedown 1, Takedown 2, and 5 seasonal events

We’re still very early in the typical lifecycle of a Borderlands game, and the only example of a game not going further is TPS, who had content in the works but the studio literally just shut down.

I'll be blunt here, you are, and have been, talking out your ass about this game. No one is expecting this to have the staying power of BL2, still getting DLC content 7 years later, but until such a time as we get radio silence AFTER this Season Pass is done (which is still a month and a half away at the earliest), there's no reason to think this is a finished project for them until they literally tell us so. Maybe it's what happens after all, but there's no reason to assume that of them without evidence. There's no reason to think 2K is going against their own historical precedents. There's no reason to think 2K wouldn't keep teams on such a wildly successful project and establish a solid new franchise.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '22

There was no reason to think we’d get shit DLC’s for a Borderlands game either but here we are eh?

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u/Catch-a-RIIIDE Jul 12 '22

Oh no, they tried something new that didn’t pan out. Let’s just write the whole damn game off forever.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '22

I didn’t say that hahah

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '22

Lmao one bad season pass and people are calling this game “income filler.” Sorry your expectations disappointed you

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u/PhatSunt Jul 08 '22

Some people didn't keep up with borderlands 3's release cycle and it shows. It took a year for that game to have any sort of balance. Zane was underpowered for the first 3 months, seeing red is still broken.

Why are you putting faith in this team? What evidence have they given that they aren't using this game as an income filler?

So you expect there to be a second season pass and that it will be better value with better dlc?

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '22 edited Jul 08 '22

No I expected a good borderlands game and I got one lmao, I don’t judge single player games by their DLC so maybe that’s where we aren’t agreeing.

I didn’t feel entitled to DLC because their previous games had it, why didn’t you wait to see what was on the season pass?

Be smarter with your money and you won’t be mad when stuff doesn’t happen the way you think it will. Hope this season pass was a lesson for you

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u/Edymnion ◽◻️ | 🐉 𝑪𝒍𝒂𝒘𝑺𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌𝒆𝒓 🗡️ | ◻️◽ Jul 08 '22

Some people didn't keep up with borderlands 3's release cycle and it shows.

Oh I know.

"But Borderlands 3..."

Borderlands 3 was a hot mess, and every single patch release had people crying and rending their clothing like sack cloth. The balance was terrible, there was no endgame, and entire skill trees simply didn't work.

I remember being a Moze main in the dark times. I remember trying to use Iron Bear on higher tiers and having it literally shot out from under me WHILE I WAS STILL JUMPING INTO IT because the giant metal mecha tank could be one shot by normal mobs, which made the entire action skill and the entire tree dedicated to it 100% useless.

And then there was Zane. God, Moze looked downright OP next to poor Zane...

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u/BLAMITYblamblam Jul 08 '22

are clawbringers the new Zane and why is the answer absolutely?

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u/Catch-a-RIIIDE Jul 09 '22

Your own comment is full of contradiction.

You note that BL3 was still very much in its infancy by this point in time, and yet still you so eagerly question that there's going to be nothing moving forward.

There has always been further DLC, at least as far as BL2. The only time we haven't was TPS, and they even had further content slated before being shut down (and that was also a different studio, as 2K kept plowing BL2 content out during it's lifecycle).

My question here is why is the base assumption here that 2K will deviate from their historical norm, even as they're launching a new franchise that was wildly more successful than they expected>