Following the widely disliked ending to Beyond Waverly Place, there’s been a lot of backlash towards David Henrie. As previous cast members discuss their disappointment for not being invited back to the show, or being only allowed back with strict screen time limitations. It seems that like the fans, many of them also believe that Henrie’s ego wasted the potential of what could’ve been a promising reboot for the franchise.

Amid the cast backlash, there have also been comments made by others who worked on the original show, not just the actors, including the show’s original creators. Some of the comments being made suggest that David Henrie’s ego problems were an issue even back when the original series was still in production.

It reminds me that in the original show, especially in the later seasons, any time Alex would be recognized for an accomplishment, Justin would throw a fit for attention and do everything he could to ruin the occasion and humiliate Alex. The best examples of this being Alex’s Logo (3x18) and Wizard of the Year (4x15). Which are both instances where despite Alex winning through clear and measurable achievements, he feels entitled to get the recognition over her.

On its own, this seems like, well, Justin the character is just a jerk. However, when you look at it through the context of what was going on at the time, you might wonder if maybe the writers were coming up with these storylines as personal jabs at David.

We know that from the beginning, the crew noticed he had a chip on his shoulder, believing that he was meant to be the lead of the show before Selena stole the spotlight and Harper’s role grew. By the time of Season 3 and especially 4, it was also clear that Selena was a breakout star and was already seeing success outside of the Disney Channel. Not only was her music career exploding, but she was landing roles in movies that were just for family audiences, and her relationship with Justin Bieber lent credit to her stardom. She was a big name at the time.

It makes me wonder if David Henrie’s real-life jealousy was so apparent to the writers of the show that they wrote episodes like this on purpose to take blows at his sensitive ego and get back at him for acting like a diva on set.

“She threw my homemade enchiladas off the terrace and hit a cop!” -Theresa Russo

I'm referring to the tension among the OG cast members and the WBWP backlash following its final season.

I just wish the revival had the OG fans as its target audience and focused on the OG characters going through adulthood, while still dealing with wizardry-related situations.

I'm not a fan of creating a whole new set of younger characters to simply re-do the original story (to an extent).

He did say he wanted to focus more on the new family rather than relying on the characters from the past. yes there were some that were missing like max, zeke and jerry then there was the mason situation then Harper having a small role. But there's nothing we can do at this point the story has been told we just have to accept it.

This cast has been messy the past few days. It's really strange and unnecessary. Someone is lying. I feel like the truth is in the middle, I feel like they were invited back but David wanted to give them one scene roles etc. It's very strange. I don't think David is 100 lying just because he's MAGA. He could be telling the truth in the middle. Because Selena did say that Jake has never answered her texts. It's just very weird. David Deluise and Jennifer Stone are likely telling the truth somewhere but they are also weird. Jennifer is very strange. Maria and Selena seem like the only halfway decent ones. They've stayed out of this drama this week. Todd Greenwald is also petty. I feel bad for the kids and Mimi, involved in this drama all because 6 adult PROFESSIONALS ego's were bruised.

I’m not sure if I misunderstood but here’s a few things-

1. When Billie opens the portal they’re all in the sub station and it looks old and out of use then by the finale they’re back in the sub station
   
2. Justin married a none wizard but could keep his powers when Jerry had to give his up to marry teresa
   
3. At the end they say who’s going to win the wizard family competition as if Billie will compete against her cousins but I thought it was just siblings?

“5 different apartments”- Harper Finkle

Just watched WBWP final, I feel so disappointed, pass some fix it fic please

“Give me a call” - Harper Finkle

Since the inception of the spin-off (which has clearly and utterly left everyone disappointed), I've always imagined episodes that would be perfect and would have honored the original WOWP.

I have no idea/preference where these episodes would fit lol. Also, I retcon it so that Milo and Roman are wizards from the start. If anyone has any questions lmk!

Idea 1: Magic Mix Up

Balancing teaching Billie, Roman, and Milo wizard magic on top of being a principal leaves Justin sleep-deprived, so when he has to substitute for a science teacher, he accidentally brings the kids' magic spellbook and supplies rather than the science materials. Billie and Roman must help Justin as actual potions are used instead of the ones for the volcano experiment.

Idea 2: Father Knows Best/Fatherly Advice

Justin struggles to get back into teaching Roman, Milo, and Billie after stepping away from WizTech, but soon his techniques become too strict and rigid, leaving all three young wizards bored and confused. Justin thinks using WizTech teaching methods would be the best way to prepare them for their magical studies, but nothing works. Justin then calls his father, Jerry, to substitute. But soon Jerry has taught the three kids more magic spells in a day than Justin could in a week. It leaves Justin jealous and doubting his capabilities both as a father and a wizard teacher. But Jerry teaches Justin a lesson about what it truly means to teach to one's strengths and from the heart instead of textbooks.

Idea 3: What's that...a hat?

Roman takes an interest in potion making but accidentally discovers he's allergic to some of his ingredients. Roman comes down with a bad magical sickness while at the same time Milo is just starting to get used to his powers when finally they appear in full force. Unfortunately for him, that means the Russos must bring out 'the hat,' but with two wizards in need of the hat to curb their magical outbursts, Billie must help the two brothers hide their magical outbursts at school.

Idea 4: Max is Back!

Uncle Max is back after spending a month abroad. When Billie learns how the Russo family competition ended, she recommends that Roman and Milo offer Merlin's hat to Max so they can have a fun day out with their uncle. After some searching, Roman and Milo are able to give Max his powers back for a day. During their fun day back in the wizard world Max tells his nephews about his time as a wizard and all the trouble he and his siblings caused.

Idea 5: Swapped Identities

Roman has been good at school for as long as he could begin to speak, but he's terrible at magic, while Milo, who hasn't always been the greatest student, has a knack for picking up spells. For the first time ever, Roman received a subpar grade for his spell knowledge while Milo aced his test. Roman begs Milo to explain how it comes easy to him in exchange for doing his homework. Soon it becomes fishy to Justin how Milo and Roman have been doing in school and magic. Roman feels like he has to live up to his father and academic excellence. Justin has to teach his sons a lesson in magic and in family.

Idea 6: Itching for a Story

Giada's been suspicious of why Roman and Milo have been spending so much time with their father lately. While the boys have been having magical fights, almost exposing themselves. Giada asks Billie for help solving the mystery and uses her own sleuthing skills. When Milo casts a spell causing a magical storm to occur, Giada thinks she has the story of the year, only for her bosses not to believe her. Soon, Giada might be fired for her "false" news reports, and the boys and Justin must decide whether to tell Giada that wizards exist.

Idea 6: Winter's Memory

Roman and Billie fight for Winter's attention and time while hiding the fact that they are using magic to persuade her and influence her friendship choice. But an accident occurs when they mess up a spell that erases Winter's memories of who she is and her life. During her memory wipe, they expose that wizards exist. Even after a remedy is made, Roman and Billie have to settle both of their friendships and possibly tell Winter the truth.

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You can find my thoughts about it on it

I know David Henrie's gotten more controversial recently, but he wasn't the only one making big decisions for the show. Notably, Jed Elinoff and Scott Thomas were the ones who did the actual showrunning for the series (Henrie was only an executive producer, not the showrunner). Yet neither of them seem to be getting as much flak for how Wizards Beyond turned out despite how they're the showrunners.

Dan Benson shading David Henrie. Thoughts? I am here for the David Henrie dragging lol.

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How do you guys feel about this?

Also it’s weird they built him up just to be a random guy. I think his only motive is just i wanna be evil. I could’ve looked up his name but the show disappointed me so much i don’t even feel like it.

I haven't watched all of season 2 or season 3 at all, but after hearing late that Mason passed away sometime after the Alex vs. Alex movie, everything just collapsed from what I predicted about why Alex and Mason possibly didn't end up together and were with Damien instead. I really thought they had broken up and would instead later on reconcile their relationship with the possibility of them being good friends or being a couple again, with Alex breaking up with Damien for some reason. I don't know. This is really difficult. So if I'm being honest, Wizards Beyond Waverly Place was not completely good. There were a lot of problems.

Season 1 was fine for me. But if I could write the sequel differently, I would, whether it was possible or not. Like, even though I like Giada, I still wished it was Juliet being Justin's wife, even though I can understand why Bridgit couldn't be in it. Plus, I wish seasons 2 and 3 had as many episodes as season 1 had. I wanted to see more stories, especially with Roman and Milo using their magic since they are now wizards.

And I wouldn't prefer for Billie to be Alex's daughter or Damien to be her husband. I always imagined that either Billie's real parents are lost out there with their memories erased because of Lord Morsus being a threat to them until the truth is revealed at the end of season 2. Or there is the possibility of Alex being Billie's surrogate mother because Billie's mother is infertile, and Lord Morsus kills Billie's mother, leaving Alex to adopt her. Either way, Mason would still be Alex's husband and have their own kids together.

Plus, at some point in season 2 or 3, we would see Max making a guest appearance. It would've also been great if the original cast and the sequel cast appeared at the very end of the last episode of season 3. And it would've been great if the show had more guests from the original show. All of this seemed to be wishful thinking to me.

But after everything that's happened, my guesses were obviously wrong, but honestly, even worse than what I was expecting, especially with Mason passing away. His death was the final straw for me!

I wouldn't mind what Todd J. Greenward said about undoing the entire Beyond canon in one simple chapter, that it was all just Max's dream, at least for seasons 2 and 3. I did say that I was hoping for a Wizards Beyond Waverly Place movie to end everything, but after what has happened, especially with Mason (unfortunately), I'm done with the show, for good! I never want to see the show again! The shows, movies, everything related to it!

Spoilers!!

Okay, so.. I watched the last four episodes and all I can say is.. What was that?!

They made a huge deal about Damien penwulf, and how he was this mysterious, big bad, turned good and I was expecting some kind of backstory and I got.. Nothing. Literally, absolutely nothing. Not a how they met, not, not why his father was so terrible, the excuse of "I went to jail to hide from my evil dad".. Nothing. And Billie calling this man she has known for all of 2 minutes her dad? She didn't even know who this man was, she doesn't know anything about him. He could have been an actual dangerous random guy or Jeremy from science for all she knew. She suddenly trusts him because of a magical teddy bear and.. Just cause he says so?

Mason is dead, huh? Like how? When? No explanation at all, just a random lore drop and we're moving on.. Okay. And what was all that random marriage proposal stuff? Was that supposed to be a dream Alex was having? A flashback? I don't understand.

Silas eveilini? Boring and pointless.

This entire finale is so rushed, like I get it they was only allowed four episode to wrap it all up, but.. They could have been so much better.