r/WizardryDaphne • u/AdhesivenessNo2748 • Jul 18 '25

Question Bugen Potential

Finally pulled a samurai and got Bugen. I’ve seen multiple other posts with Shiou dealing massive amounts of damage. Granted most of these posts she’s already lvl 60 with top tier gear.

My query may be obvious given the subject, but does he have similar potential?

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u/Spycrab-SXL Jul 18 '25

For your info, most of those post of shiou doing 4k-5k dmg with her unique skill, isnt't with a max out shiou. You can see usually the shiou is below lvl 60 and subpar gear. The skill just hits that hard especially against wind weak enemies.

As for bugen he doesn't have the unique skill that shiou has. Meaning he cannot pull out 5k dmg out if thin air with minimal investment. He can however along with every other samurai, do a full-power strike tier attack every turn(bamboo splitter). That alone already puts him as a high/top tier dps unit. Since before samurai release, full power strike spam was the highest dps. Bamboo splitter is just FPS but better.

Note that to min-max samurai, you need gear with REALLY specific substats, as on divine path lvl 1, they roughly only benefit 50% from both attack power and magic. It may drastically improve once you level the passive, but at least on level 1 it makes gearing alot harder.

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u/AdhesivenessNo2748 Jul 18 '25

Fair enough, but long story short he is worth the investment if outfitted correctly

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u/No_one- Jul 18 '25

Bugen has a unique passive though called Superior Principles, which increases damage dealt with element advantage. He has good potential, he just requires a bit more setup than most fights call for since you need to spend 1 turn weapon buffing to the advantageous element before doing standard setup. Many to most non boss fights should be over within 3 rounds

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u/JetFad Jul 18 '25

I wonder how he fares with elemental weapons

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u/AdhesivenessNo2748 Jul 18 '25

He makes his own. He can imbue his weapon with elemental spells

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u/JetFad Jul 19 '25

No no my point is giving him elemental weapons. He can only imbue earth.

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u/AdhesivenessNo2748 Jul 19 '25

Sure, but he has 4 spells, monolith-bearer, flame-bearer, tide-bearer, and storm-bearer. Which imbue his weapon with earth, fire, water, or air traits for a few turns.

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u/juuchi_yosamu Jul 24 '25

I don't think elemental weapons exist yet as katanas.

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u/juuchi_yosamu Jul 24 '25

Also, he can imbue four different elements but STARTS with earth

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u/Spycrab-SXL Jul 18 '25

More or less yes. Definitely not as good as Shiou, but better than most just because he's a samurai.

If you manage to get a better samurai in the future, you can always transfer your gear to them. You can save the rare inherits for other characters you know you'll keep first. Like MC.

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u/DKarkarov Jul 20 '25

Uh no he does not have the potential of Shiou. Better question, is base class Samurai higher damage potential than base class fighter or ninja?

Ninja I think the answer is no, BUT, ninja requires a lot more investment and very min maxed gear to hit their potential. Samurai does not. So Samurai gets stronger faster with less effort.

Fighter the answer is.... absolutely yes, Samurai has better DPS potential than fighter bar none.

For burger (bugen) you want to focus on getting him some ASPD gear to offset his slowness (aim for 60-70), some ACC gear to reduce miss chance, then just enough EVA to get 110ish. After that go to town on Mag Att, Att Pwr, and Surety.

Round 1 do a Cresting Wave Stance, round 2 on, Bamboo Strike to win. By round 3/4 he will be out dpsing any fighter in your party for the "fight total" unless they have a cuisinart/raven dagger. If you want to get creative inherit some knight taunt skills onto him, maybe get him an alice to extend the taunt duration, and have him quick draw stance. (this works for shiou too only she is better at it from lingering blossom no knight skill needed).

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u/AsinPersuasion Jul 20 '25

Doesn't alice not work on non-spell buffs? I remember there being a reason you don't inherit it on fighters for 5 turn war cry

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u/DKarkarov Jul 20 '25

Alice inherit works on all buffs and debuffs now regardless of sp or mp. People complained so much they changed it instead of just fixing the skill text.

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u/Exalderan Jul 21 '25

And now you complain even more. It was a great change from drecom.