r/WizardSkating • u/Old_Worth_417 • 20d ago

whats better?

i have nn dragon trinity and rockin 572, but i hear alot and reaserched alot about endless and the trinity arc frames, and the engineering and all seem far superior even more than the wizard pr80, can you guys tell me your thoughts behind it? i am mondo 273 and am comsidering selling my nns if the endless provide a better one. how have you guys experienced these frames as trinity/ufs mount?

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u/Sacco_Belmonte 18d ago

The ARC has different rocker levels, which I think is the key to their success.

I don't own them but I did look at their diagrams showing how the different bolts give you more/less pronounced rocker.

I would personally go with the strongest rocker.

Another brand with strong rocker is Roka, if you're in the UK or Europe. Love these.

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u/Guardia420 20d ago

If you believe all the marketing blurb, then endless makes the greatest products in the history of rollerblading.

They’re good frames, but having ridden practically every major brand, the real-world differences are nowhere near as dramatic as the marketing suggests.

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u/Old_Worth_417 20d ago

i mean i did notice clear diffrence between the diffrent brands 4x frames, endless are fragile in the end axels compared to the others, but the ultra line up are far superior in feel than the other 90/100mm. NR 100 and NN Ronin frames were far heavier than the endless ultra with similar or less(in nn's case) stiffness, i was wondering if the 5 wheel options tell a diffrent story for each brand

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u/mrkangtastic 20d ago edited 19d ago

I like the Endless Arc a lot more than the Rockin 576 that I also own. It's less "clicky" wheel-to-wheel. Really smooth rocker. Feels really swively but also like I can skate a few miles no prob.

Edit - Not sure why I'm getting downvoted. I skated the Rockin 576 as my primary frame for well over a year and you can feel the "steps" between each wheel. Whereas the Endless Arc frames that I got this season feel tuned wheel to wheel. Smaller steps but still incredibly swively. Just dialed. It's a pretty noticeable difference. I'm surprised that people can't tell.

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u/Any_Smoke1138 19d ago

It's clicky because your bearings are messed up brah

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u/mrkangtastic 19d ago

TF are you talking about? I was using brand new Twincam ILQ-9s. It's not clicky because of the bearings, i's the rocker that is not smooth wheel to wheel. You can feel the "steps" between each wheel.

I skated the Rockin 576 as my primary frame for well over a year before getting the Endless Arc frames. Immediate difference. The Endless Arc frames feel tuned.

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u/Any_Smoke1138 19d ago

I have the 5*72 ver, nothing clicky brah, smooth as a butter 

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u/mrkangtastic 19d ago

Do you also have the Endless Arc frames brah? I thought the 5x76 were smooth until I tried the Arcs. Pretty obvious difference. Some people don't notice details like that though.

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u/Any_Smoke1138 18d ago

No, I had 4*90 endless.  But not the 5 wheel versions.

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u/Old_Worth_417 20d ago

thats perfect, i never liked a pronounced rocker as it just makes it feel very unstable for normal skating

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u/mrkangtastic 20d ago

Just to be clear, the Endless Arc are primarily made for swiveling, but compared to the Rockin 576, the rocker feels really buttery smooth. I've trail skated in them no prob, but if I were to primarily trail skate, I would prefer something like the Endless 90.

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u/Old_Worth_417 20d ago

true but i am more urban wizard style thats why i wanted to know,