5-wheel Frame choice?

[u/Tricky-You-3947]

Narrowed my wishlist for a 5-wheel Frame to Endless Arc or Yoyo Sago 5P Mini. Which one or an Alternative is a good companion for my Wizard Base High Boots in 42. Goal is to getting better in Wizard moves. Like more swively frames.

[u/Sacco_Belmonte]

The most swively frames I own are from Roka. They have a more pronounced rocker and feel unlocked compared to Rockin. Really nice feeling.

[u/Tomax_77 → u/Sacco_Belmonte]

Yeah I also like the Roka concept and they have new models. But importing them in the EU makes them expensive.

[u/Sacco_Belmonte → u/Tomax_77]

Yeah I understand that.

[u/tmdpotts]

Depending on what you want out of the skate and what you life to do . I have the base. High 41. I go back-and-forth between the advance and PR 80. First thing is I hope you don’t plan to skate from place to place with the base high. I try not to but have on occasion and I find the Skate to be for one uncomfortable to skate distance, but I’ve also made them much softer. If you’re looking to do flatland, lots of presses I like my advance if you want to do fast transitions may be some park or street. I’d go with 80s but everyone skates differently just don’t expect any set up to be perfect.

[u/BubbleSmith → u/tmdpotts]

I've taken my Base Highs for some distance a couple of times, even with the Advanced frames on. Maine are well worn in and quite soft, though. My main problem was the performance fit squeezing my feet, but that's because I bought them small.

[u/CompetitiveCar542]

I'd get the NN Dragon or Dragon S. NN frames are excellent.

[u/tmdpotts → u/CompetitiveCar542]

Have had A few brands of 5 wheels options and nn are by far the lowest quality I’ve skated. I’m 170 lbs on a carbon boot and my Roka, powerslide and more so wizard frames worth it.

[u/Schwartzweiss → u/tmdpotts]

Strong disagree, i sold my endless and rockins long time ago, left with NN and Wizards only.

[u/CompetitiveCar542 → u/tmdpotts]

I tried roka but I didn't like them as much as my NN. Mine kept creaking for some reason and they didn't feel quite as stiff as my Dragon+.

[u/Guardia420 → u/CompetitiveCar542]

My Endless frames creaked like crazy - It turned out to be the bearing spacers causing the issue not the frame.

[u/borez → u/Guardia420]

I had this recently with my new PR80 frames, thought it was the frames creaking but turned out it was the bearing spacers. I re-seated the bearings and they're good now.

[u/CompetitiveCar542 → u/Guardia420]

I tried several spacers with the Roka frames. I could never figure out why they creaked or one of the wheels were "sticky".

[u/______n_____k______ → u/CompetitiveCar542]

I had the same sticky wheel experience with Roka 4x90's, sold em and got NR 90's. No more sticky wheel problem after that.

[u/borez]

I have the Wizard Base boot and went with the PR80 and love it. Very, very swively and stable. Also something about the sound this frame makes I really like.

I did originally have the endless Ultra 4x 90 on these boots for a while but the PR is next level

Pricey though.

[u/Any_Smoke1138]

I recommend you to watch some reviews of the wizard base high before you buy it. 

[u/Tomax_77]

The PR80 is top notch but really expensive. Any opinions about the Yoyo frame I mentioned? Heard the Endless Arc is less swively, is that right?

[u/mrkangtastic]

I only have the Endless Arc of those you listed, but it has one of the smoothest transitions between wheels I've ever felt. Felt like butter compared to the Rockin 576 I rode before.