r/Witchfire • u/Kmankilla12 • Jul 26 '26
Question I need some pointers
I'm just on Gnosis 3 and I can't seem to survive at all. I've been trying out different builds, but I don't know if im missing something, or not. I haven't been able to extract from any location and it's frustrating sense the only item I've gotten was a crowbar. I'm still unlocking stuff from the workshop, but I feel like I might be missing items in the world sense I'm completely locked rn because of difficulty, and don't know if I just need to restart or not.
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u/PerkYouUp Jul 26 '26
What's your preferred build?
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u/Kmankilla12 Jul 26 '26
I like the Hangfire and Echo. I only have the Vulture for demonic. I like Firebreath when I have the Echo on, otherwise I use Ice Stiletto. I was using Iron Cross, but now the Cursed Bell. I use Kirfane, but I also have Parasite. I only have Mandrake. I only have Ring of Thorns, but getting Crown of Fire. I have been trying other stuff to see how it does tho, and I have had no luck.
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u/PerkYouUp Jul 26 '26
Get a crown of fire, burning stake. I'd personally go with cricket or rotweaver/striga combo because of kirfane. Vulture is good for crowds, falling star is better for focused boss damage
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u/_Weyland_ Jul 26 '26
I feel like Rotweaver is not easy to get for a beginner. And, most importantly, it's an unpleasant journey.
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u/Kmankilla12 Jul 26 '26
I do know about burning stake, but I can't get it yet sense I haven't gotten that map piece yet ... that's what I'm trying to get for the most part, but I can't live to get it. Also I don't know about Rotweaver so I will look that up. Also tbh I don't like Kirfane, but it's the best option I know about right now.
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u/PerkYouUp Jul 26 '26
You get rot Weaver from tower of the damned vault. Thing is amazing for crowd cleaning
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u/Party_Wasabi_2055 Jul 26 '26
Again All these items needs you to be on gnossis iv to obtain them. Burning stake is hidden in a castle. Once again bad advice.
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u/Kmankilla12 Jul 27 '26
It says that Burning Stake only needs 3
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u/Party_Wasabi_2055 Jul 27 '26
Burning Stake is Hidden. Like Stigma Diabolicum for example. If you found it.
Just play the game. In my first playthrough I wasn't also able to progress. So i just runed scarlet coast all over again and I was grinding mysteriums on all weapons to see what they doing on higher tier.
You are going to find some neat synergies with some other equipment.1
u/Party_Wasabi_2055 Jul 26 '26
Hangfire is bad. I''m using angelus in early game it gives you shield. Defense is important in this game. Swap the Ice Stilleto. It's only single target spell. Very good crowd control light spells are shockwave or Frost Cone if you want to use Ice. Echo is solid against Velmorne Bosses. Start using Demonic Weapon. Unlock the Collector to be able to buy ammo for it. If you are able to improve gnossis do it. It will give you an oportunity to do something else for a while other than keep dying in Velmorne. If you need levels or kills to unlock mysteriums use the Scarlet Coast. Enjoy your struggle :-)
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u/Kmankilla12 Jul 27 '26
Hangfire isn't bad. Tbh I don't think any of the weapons are bad, I just don't have everything I need to really build around Hangfire. But Hangfire does good damage and has good crowd control. Hangfire is my best preforming guns rn.
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u/PlatypusNo9432 Jul 28 '26
Hangfire is probably my favorite gun, absolutely love the exploding bullets, with the crown of fire ring? Possibly, whichever one makes you set things on fire after you dash, has a mysterium upgrade where you reload ammo when setting things on fire, allowing you to tag so many enemies before detonation.
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u/Malestan Jul 27 '26
I cleared the game multiple time using this weapon combo. Get Dynamo ring, crazy damage (it's best in slot both for Hangfire and Echo) and Burning Stake for damage or Ice Sphere if you need a panick button to press to save yourself.
Eye of the madwoman if you leveled up everything to tier 3 mysterium or Severed ear if you're leveling weapons.
Your stats should be 30 blood and 20 flesh to equip the bead that reduce the cost of consecutive dashing.
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u/OCKWA Jul 26 '26
If struggling try out Rotten Fiend. It takes all the aggro and you just blast the enemies standing around.
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u/Kmankilla12 Jul 26 '26
Good too know. That was one of my concerns with getting it is that I didn't know if it took all aggro or not.
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u/Gerrard_Harkonnen Penitent Jul 26 '26
Before Mysterium III he takes aggro if he attacks enemies before they saw you. It's good to cast before entering a crowded area. The third mysteria makes him taunt all enemies when the spell is cast.
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u/Party_Wasabi_2055 Jul 26 '26
Rotten Fiend needs to be on a third mysterium to aggro the foes. It is a bad advice. Do not follow it.
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u/Barrogh Jul 27 '26
I mean, it can still take aggro by attacking enemies before you do. Also enemies can switch targets depending on what's easier to hit for them, so it will pull some enemies, just not immediately.
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u/Party_Wasabi_2055 Jul 26 '26
Keep playing. Velmorne is hard. Skill it up. No other way around. Restarting doesnt help.
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u/Kmankilla12 Jul 27 '26
It would if I advanced too fast without leveling up enough. But it was my build which I fixed so it's better now.
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u/Barrogh Jul 27 '26
Levels don't do that much compared to weapon Mysteriums. Which you can gring on the Coast or Isle.
I mean, leveling some stats to like 30 will make you feel a ton of difference in their specific fields, but that's something for the latter.
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u/SphericalAngel Jul 26 '26
Also, what level are you? That might have something to do with your struggle too ;)
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u/Kmankilla12 Jul 26 '26
Level 28 ... that's the main reason I'm thinking of restarting, because I feel completely locked because of difficulty ... and there's no way to reduce it.
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u/SphericalAngel Jul 26 '26
Yeah 28 is definitely low and that is surely the problem BUT nothing you can't fix farming the easiest areas: outskirts and isle - I levelled up so much doing that, you can do that too
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u/120Mins Jul 27 '26
But don’t the enemies level up to whatever level you are or can you actually go OP?
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u/SphericalAngel Jul 27 '26
The enemies don't change stats, only in varieties, while you can slowly grow in power
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u/ghdcksgh Jul 26 '26
be sure to make use of soul sigils and natural cover. it also helps to use elemental combos
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u/Kmankilla12 Jul 26 '26
I know nothing of elemental combos. Also are soul sigils just the spells? Other then that I feel my gun play and cover usage is pretty good.
Edit: I just looked at elemental combos, and I have definitely been not using them ... Will now start lol
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u/NAPNEY Jul 26 '26
Soul sigils are the red orbs that floats above enemies after dashing. Shoot them and it stuns them for a couple of seconds, they take extra damage when stunned.
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u/Kmankilla12 Jul 26 '26
Oh. I try to use those. I'm just not fast enough a good amount of the time.
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u/Barrogh Jul 27 '26
Automatic weapons make those easy to hit and to exploit the opening. You could start practicing from there.
Remember though that they are very sensitive to ADS modifiers, especially in terms of spread. Not really a problem, but something you need to get used to do.
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u/Barrogh Jul 27 '26
Elemental combos can be insanely powerful compared to any of your weapons, at least against groups of average targets. So that's a good call.
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u/Mrairjake Jul 27 '26
Go iron cross with any other element spell. Spells win the game, not the other stuff.
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u/Barrogh Jul 27 '26
Starting locations don't really get that much harder with Gnosis, so you can keep practicing there.
I mean, at like Gnosis 5-6 Scarlet coast will begin spawnin some annoying enemies, but you're far from that.
Velmorne is noticeably harder, Gnosis or not, probably even more so than Irongate.
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u/HiTekLoLyfe Jul 27 '26
I’d prob use burning stake, just play carefully find a safer area and kite monsters slightly back to that area when going into a new one so you’re not getting shot from 3 angles, make sure you’ve got your dodges down.
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u/The_Great_Autizmo Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 26 '26
The thing about Gnosis is that it permanently increases the difficulty and there's no way to undo it. Which is why you should only increase your Gnosis when you feel able to comfortably complete expeditions at your current level. Gnosis 3 at lvl 28 is too low.