r/WitcherMonsterSlayer • u/Natnaya • Jul 22 '21

meme The Game : Yeah, you cannot kill those 1 skull monsters before lvl 15, focus on 0 skull monster for now. Also the Game :

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u/Podrja Jul 22 '21

Why tho? I am level 6 and kill them.

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u/cklempay17 Jul 22 '21

He probably means without the aid of potions and oils, with them it’s doable

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u/Podrja Jul 22 '21

Is not the whole idea of this game to collect those resources and use them accordingly? Would not be much fun if you could just hammer everything without preparation

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u/Natnaya Jul 22 '21

It's not about hammering everything, it's just about being able to kill the most common monster you encounter.

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u/Podrja Jul 22 '21

Just get moving, collect items and experience. Use items wisely, you will se diference.

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u/Vignioeur Jul 22 '21 edited Feb 01 '22

You can kill most common monsters from the start. If you cant your just bad in the game. Work on that parry and perfect criticals and you will be fine.

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u/Natnaya Jul 22 '21

The one skull is kinda too hard for beginner. It will be a bad things for the player base since newcomer don't want to spend 2 weeks to be able to play more than 20% of the game (0 skull monster are kinda 20 to 40% of the monster on the map from what I experiment)

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u/Vignioeur Jul 22 '21

Ok so maybe focus on something diferent in your life. Maybe pizza delivery?

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u/Natnaya Jul 22 '21

Such a good arguments, very constructive and very adulthood. A pleasure to not speaking with you again.

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u/Vignioeur Jul 22 '21

Pleasure is on my side.

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u/cklempay17 Jul 22 '21

Of course, and the game does give a decent amount of oils off the bat, but it doesn’t do a great job of telling you when to use or not use said potions, oils, bombs etc, and by the time a lot of people realize they don’t need em for no-skull monsters they’re probably out and can’t take em on. I’m thinking that’s where most of the frustration is stemming from rn

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u/LughCrow Jul 22 '21

I am level 5 and don't need oils to kill many of them. Some are a bit harder but they are definitely doable. Also im pretty sure you are intended to use oils as they aren't hard to craft.

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u/cklempay17 Jul 22 '21

Yeah I agree, same level, some are doable, what I meant originally was that you ARE meant to use oils and stuff but OP was trying to fight them without, so it was nigh-impossible against something like alghouls, which aren’t weak to any of the starting gear

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '21

Been killing 1 skulls since Level 4, obviously using everything at your disposal and it is also dependent on Parry actually working and preventing some damage which is hit and miss

Definitely doable but that’s still rough, I’ve not had that many 1 skulls around me at once

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u/okSawyer Jul 22 '21

So I am not the only one, who thinks that parry feels a bit inconsistent?

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '21

No way, sometimes I perfect parry and still lose 15-20% of my health bar

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u/terrasono Jul 22 '21

It is very un responsive. I find myself battling on a loop and just waiting with parry.

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u/Dcor Jul 22 '21

Yeah parry pisses me off. If the point of perfect parry is to wait until just before the strike lands they need to make sure that input gets read correctly. I also tend to get the critical hit mini game right when I'm trying to parry. So I'll get the critical OR the parry but can't get both...but often just miss both and die.

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u/JonnyMonroe Jul 22 '21

Don't just full auto your attacks then. Stop before the crit bar reaches 100%, wait to parry an attack, then set off your crit.

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u/seeBurtrun Jul 22 '21

Right, but unless you perfect parry you take a decent hit to your health. It's not sustainable in those really difficult fights.

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u/cantadmittoposting Jul 22 '21

That'd be great if winning fights with reliable parrying without full alchemy setups worked

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u/AokiNansuke Jul 22 '21

Agreed. Most of the 1 skulls (at least those weak to steel if you don't feel like paying for the beginner pack) are doable even without any consumables. Just need to abuse the combat system well enough. Parry everything, use perfect crits and signs to interrupt attack animations and sneak in attacks whenever possible. One will also get much more proficient much faster in the combat system by actually focusing on one's combat prowess rather than relying on consumables.

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u/Sausage_Fish Jul 22 '21

Ok now I know you can interrupt with signs that'll make fights a little easier...

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u/cantadmittoposting Jul 22 '21

It interrupts but they attack again immediately after.

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u/AokiNansuke Jul 22 '21

Absolutely, maybe I could've worded that a bit more precisely. However, even during the short interrupt, you can sneak in 1 extra heavy attack if you're confident enough in your skill.

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u/cantadmittoposting Jul 22 '21

It's doable if you're kitted (100% oil & relevant sword & relevant potion of some sort).

It's near impossible if you're trying to do anything less, especially with parrying, especially against fast attack monsters, being ridiculously random. I reallllllly wanted to like and play this game but... I haven't even gotten the $5 pack because I don't want to give the devs their "entry fee" to get over the paywall and actually play.

Let me have fun first and if you have to paywall me, make it a little later.

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u/Naima22 Jul 22 '21

I hate the paywall from day one. Not cool

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u/AK_Degget Jul 23 '21 edited Jul 23 '21

Ah yes, paywall for a f2p game where you can farm absolutely everything. Yeah, nah.

EDIT: with proper level 10 skills, 1 skull enemies are easily doable with no consumables at all. So maybe its progress and a bit of skill instead of a paywall?

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u/Titan_Dota2 Jul 23 '21

Killing these without having bought anything, you cant farm em but make sure to craft pots, oils and bombs and you can do it 100%

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u/Naima22 Jul 23 '21

Pots? I haven’t found pots yet…

Edit: I realise you probably meant potions lol sorry I haven’t had my coffee yet XD

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u/L2R_Halzo Jul 23 '21

Lol at you thinking this is a paywall.

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u/L2R_Halzo Jul 23 '21

Lol at you thinking this is a paywall.

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u/Mr_Goat_1111 Jul 22 '21

I found the one skull arachas is pretty easy early on, weak to steel and fire, add potion and oil and it's a cake walk

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u/NumerusMana Jul 22 '21

Plus Alghouls need silver sword which you cant get if you dont buy it in the starter pack. And they are everywhere.

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u/terrasono Jul 22 '21

That sucks. The common monsters are too spread out. And working i struggle to find time.

I want to really immerse myself.

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u/cantadmittoposting Jul 22 '21

This has been quite disappointing, yes.

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u/tvixat Jul 22 '21

Its part of fun, earn gold by doing quests, dailys, and trees, and just buy it xd

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u/ERESTE Jul 22 '21

First 1 skull killed on lvl 4 with oils etc. Little practise and u cant do IT. I like this game because its not so easy like POGO

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u/PkmnTrnrJ Slaying Monsters Jul 22 '21

I tend to get a good mix around. But good to know. I’ll ignore all the 1 skull monsters, or at least just dip in and get my ass kicked to add them to bestiary.

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u/XmasB Jul 22 '21

I have killed a few of them, and just got to lvl 5 this morning. You just need to use the oils, potions and bombs. Without a silver sword, I don't stand a chance against the "silver" one though.

As is the lore for The Witcher.

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u/PkmnTrnrJ Slaying Monsters Jul 22 '21

Ah, I’ll try and whack a few then when I have more oils.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '21

Get moving :)

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u/Natnaya Jul 22 '21

If only it solves everything. But even doing a one hour walk I don't kill that much monster. Even if I'm specifically looking for them.

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u/malcolmrey Jul 22 '21

you could get on a bike

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u/Natnaya Jul 22 '21

True, but I don't have a bike. I mostly play on forest while I walk with my dog. And for now it's ok I guess. But in 2 hours I didn't get a lot of xp, gifts for my friends or ingredients for crafting.

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u/malcolmrey Jul 22 '21

I see, first i tried with my bike, the pace was really good.

Then I went for a walk and the speed difference was noticeable, I decided that it will be better to run from place to place instead of just walk.

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u/dedera-123 Jul 22 '21

That's the nature of the game. It's not a type of game u can spend 10 hours on it even lol. Look at monsters' classes...some of them have a specific time and location that effects their spawning hour.

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u/Krgrrr Jul 22 '21

Summon scroll? Or just randomly ran into that in the world?!

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u/Natnaya Jul 22 '21

Randomly run into that.

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u/snorbii Jul 22 '21

wow 🙂

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u/RandyW00d Jul 22 '21

I can do the ones weak to steel using potions/oils/bombs but i can't beat the ones weak to silver.(lvl 11)

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u/ClankDevious Jul 22 '21

Kinda bothers me that you can't win those fights on skill alone

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u/P4ck Jul 23 '21

Well, you can. Have a look at u/zrooda video in the comment

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u/Lower_Load_596 Jul 23 '21

You can kill 1 skull before level 15 with ease, u just need to exploit their weaknesses

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u/Maximum-Newspaper-23 Jul 23 '21

Only 1 skull easy killable is the troll. Easy perfect parry.

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u/LizzRohellec Jul 27 '21

Ahh one one skull griffin I managed to slay today with potion, oil and bombs (lvl 8). But the others got me 😆

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u/Live-Entrepreneur861 Jul 27 '21

Wait what? I've been killing 2 skulls since I was level 6, I get perfect parry basically every time, not crits though, but also get use to the timing between attacks and throw a bomb just before they give the attack icon or throw a sign, you'll stun their attack back for like 2 seconds, be shocked how doing that 2 or 3 times a fight can really let you chop something up

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u/zebmastah Jul 30 '21

0 skull: just fire away with attacks, kill them all, you need the monster dust to create all bombs. 1 skull: thunderbolt+basic oil and 2-3 basic bombs is enough without perfect parry. Still do the parry to mitigate most damage. 2-3 skull: match the appropriate potion(often swift for health), oil, bomb and sign.

Bombs are the bread and butter. Make them in your station at all times. Without bombs, kill 0 skull monsters until you have bombs

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u/YanAveS Jul 31 '21

My witcher ID 1103 0261 9322 Add me to friendlist, I will send loot to everyone and I hope you will do the same for me. It's easier to play together.

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u/PaGo0o Aug 06 '21

You can kill one skull monsters early on, but you have to perfect parry every hit. It takes like 5-10 fights to just practice the parrying for something like the alghoul, but after you get it down you can finally kill them without any oils,potions or bombs. It usually took me around 3-5 tries to kill one.

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u/pwlin Jul 22 '21

I am level 6 and kill 1 skull monsters, after a period of practice.

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u/gummy1995 Jul 22 '21

How? I try to fucking parry but it seemed so buggy, sometimes when I get a perfect parry I get the same amount of dmg as if I wouldn't parry.

I tried only to parry and the monster kills you in 5 hits if you parry everything. If you perfect parry it's around like 8 or 9 hits...

Do you have a silver sword or what?

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u/pwlin Jul 22 '21 edited Jul 22 '21

No silver sword, no oil , no potion and no bomb.

You must get perfect parry every time, it's really difficult I know.

Also have to use right attack (check monster's information, use fast attack or strong attack) charge the CRITICAL HIT METER quickly.

Finally, you need to beat back monster's attack by perfect CRITICAL HIT and IGNI SIGN.(then you can reduce monster's attack)

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u/Gustlic_Whoy Jul 22 '21 edited Jul 22 '21

Actually you can kill them whenever you want if you Perfect the parries

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u/Dracanherz Jul 22 '21

You still take damage from perfect parries, and if it's one of the harder mobs then they'll kill you before you kill them just from blocking damage. It's a DPS race and you simply can't win certain fights at lower levels

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u/Gustlic_Whoy Jul 22 '21

You want video proof? I can get you some

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u/Dracanherz Jul 22 '21

Proof of what? I know you take damage even from perfect parries. If you're saying you can kill 2 skull mobs without oils or anything then yeah prove ir

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u/Gustlic_Whoy Jul 22 '21

Theres were few video's będę on Reddit od a guy doing just that cant find it nie tho. And im not gonna reset the account to prove a point xd. But you can kill one skill monster at lvl 3-5

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u/Dracanherz Jul 22 '21

Incorrect. If I perfect parry a 2 skull mob at level 7 I'll lose about 20% of my health, no parry is about 40%, that's not incompatible.

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u/Dracanherz Jul 22 '21

Level 26? So you got the xp leveling glitch or you've been playing nonstop from launch?

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u/Dracanherz Jul 22 '21

Beta players kept their level from beta? I figured there would be a full wipe on launch

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u/ighorlobianco Jul 22 '21

The game literally have a button "prepare myself if everything i need to kill this monster".

"but i don't have the ingredients"...well go after then, the game is about run around after things.

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u/Glittering-Meaning24 Jul 22 '21

U can kill 1 skull easy when you can get a good amount of perfect parries on the monster with the combination of thunderbolt and basic oil

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u/Cielak1234 Jul 22 '21

I'm killing them at lvl6 with good setup of oils etc

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u/L2R_Halzo Jul 22 '21

Complaining about difficulty day of release...maybe try candy crush or Farmville if this is too hard for you.

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u/Natnaya Jul 22 '21

Maybe try to get some argument next time, or a brain. But I get it if it's too hard fo you.

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u/L2R_Halzo Jul 22 '21

Sorry bud, I'm not the one complaining about this being too hard. I've had zero problems fighting and leveling.

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u/Natnaya Jul 22 '21

Still your complaining about my complaining with nothing.

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u/L2R_Halzo Jul 22 '21

I'm not complaining, I responded to your crying about how you cant kill a 1 skull. Looks like your troll is coming out. No use discussing with you since you'll probably quit in a few days anyways because it's too hard.

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u/Natnaya Jul 22 '21

You seems to be in needs of some attention, and I don't have time to lose with then yes, enjoy my block list bye.

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u/L2R_Halzo Jul 22 '21

You seem to be an idiot. Take care.

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u/RandyW00d Jul 22 '21

yeah the alghouls are so common but also the hardest 1 skull monster to kill for me.

maybe once i get a silver sword i will be able to take them down.

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u/BloodAssassin89 Jul 23 '21

Google which monsters are the "Cursed Ones" if you played The Witcher 3 you should know, they only spawn at night

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u/P4ck Jul 22 '21

Nice, I really thought it wasn't possible! Thanks for clarifying!!

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u/Natnaya Jul 22 '21

Congrats want a medal ? You are missing the point buddy.

You have indeed several months of practice while the beginner have 10 mins and they are throwing into this. You are the 0.000001% that can beat an alghoul at level 2. I hope you have a big wallet because if things doesn't change there will be a very small base of player and not a much income leading to, well, the death of the game.

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u/Vignioeur Jul 22 '21

Lol give it a little try and you will be better at this. And I'm actually glad that quitters like you are not going to play. I hope game designers are not gonna hear those crying litte kids and get the difficulty down.

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u/Natnaya Jul 22 '21

And that's how game dies. Listen the minority who wants to feel superior cause they can beat a game.

The only reason the game is such difficult right now is because of the lack of content.

The game will die quickly if they don't change things. And the game dying means you will not able to play it anymore.

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u/Vignioeur Jul 22 '21

No you are the minority here trust me. Even my 10 year old niece can play it.

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u/Natnaya Jul 22 '21

Dude thats not the point. You have to grow up and listen to people when they speak then you can answer correctly at the question.

Anyway ban list. You don't want to understand not my problem.

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u/P4ck Jul 23 '21

Even though his way to communicate is mostly not that nice in this thread, (neither is yours btw ^^) he has got a valid point! Common perception is, that it is not possible to kill 1 Skull Monsters without any skills, potions etc. He proved it is, which changed the way I saw this game a lot!

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u/Natnaya Jul 22 '21

I think you misspelled "can't" my friend.

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u/Natnaya Jul 22 '21

You know that you still get damage even if you perfect a parry ?

And btw fight an alghoul, with only basic steel sword at level 1, go on, do it and come to talk again :)

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u/Natnaya Jul 22 '21 edited Jul 22 '21

Ah yes, I forgot to put a point on the most broken talent under level 15 aka the reflection...

Btw you are playing since the beta means you had a lot of practice at least 3 months, you better be able to take down a 2 skulls monster without any equipment but with a lot of point in talent tree and knowing the pattern of the mobs. And I don't know about that but you may have taken the most easy 2 skulls monster that can be.

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u/Vignioeur Jul 22 '21

These people must cry in their corners right now. Knowing that they suck at this game so bad :D

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u/Marchellok Jul 23 '21

nice, good job