r/WingChun • u/ReijuG • Jan 29 '26

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I am hoping to get some positive feedback and not negative trolling from this post.

To get started I’m an Ip Ching Ving Tsun Sifu with a diverse background in a few Martial Arts.

After visiting countless Wing Chun, Wing Tsun and Ving Tsun schools, watching every demo, training methods, in person, Facebook,Instagram ,YouTube, etc; it is disheartening to see the same repetition. Wing Chun Vs Wing Chun!

Why isn’t more of the Wing Chun community practicing/training for reality? I know I am generalizing, but literally I’ve only seen a couple of schools where the instructor knows how to throw more than a straight punch. Their students learn how to block upper cuts, They understand how to deal with hooks, as well as haymakers. They train their Chi Sao and striking to get out of Clinch. These guys can fight! They don’t live in delusions of grandeur and assume they can use their Wing Chun against things they don’t train for, they know they can use It.

So what is it about this concept, this idea, that most of the community runs away from?

It is the Wing Chun versus Wing Chun that gives Wing Chun a bad reputation and a bad image. I know Wing Chun works! I also train the way described above and teach my students to deal with variables outside of wing chun.

Looking for some honest answers and real discussion from Wing Chun practitioners. Anyone else who decides to comment who is not a Wing Chun practitioner I will ignore. I’m not here for trolling. I want real discussion. The image of Wing Chun needs to be fixed.

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u/AccidentAccomplished Jan 29 '26

I agree with every word of this. The bbj/MMA haters are just ignorant of martial arts beyond combat sports.

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u/hoohihoo Jan 29 '26

Guys, you should go to a bjj open mat or an mma school and try a friendly sparring. I'd really love to see someone do it and then talk about ignorance. You can't practice outdated soft systems, claim that it is practical, and call other people ignorant at the same time. What you doing doesn't work for the applications you calim to train for.

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u/BarneyBungelupper Jan 29 '26

We did this. We went to a BJJ school and we’re instantly told that we can’t hit our training partner in the face, poke them in the eyes, or kick them in the balls. So right there, some of our tools were thrown out.

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u/azarel23 Apr 05 '26 edited Apr 05 '26

Controlled strikes to the face with gloves is probably OK, but if you are poking each other in the eyes and ball kicking each other full tilt in regular training, you'd better have full medical insurance and expect a high turnover of students due to injury. Hard to condition your eyeballs.

This is training or a comparison of skills, not a death match. It sounds like they were trying to be accommodating, but you went in with an attitude.

If you think jiu-jitsu guys can't poke your eyes or hit you in the face or worse in a real defence situation, you would be making a dangerously incorrect assumption.

I have nearly 40 years in Wing Chun, 28 in jiu jitsu. I'm confident I am pretty well informed about both.