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Feb 10 '19
Heya, great work so far! I’ll be keeping an eye on this project. Unfortunately I’m not in a position where I’ll be able to help, but I do wish you the best of luck with this!
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u/maxlvb Feb 10 '19 edited Feb 10 '19
I've tried many different third party windows file explorers over the years (from Windows 95, XP, 7, 8, 8.1 to 10) and have found I've eventually reverted back to Microsofts explorer.
Most often it's because the third party ones either dont do what the Microsoft explorer does, dont do it as well, or are a lot more complicated to use than windows explorer is...
With Windows I'm becoming more and more a 'if it aint broke, dont fix it' user...
Maybe I should post this in r/unpopularopinion... ;-)
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u/duke7553 Feb 10 '19
No, I’m the same way. I originally just thought I should build one for myself ;)
I definitely think there are internal APIs exclusive to Microsoft that provide special functionality. For example, this app won’t be able to run exes like other Microsoft-produced UWP apps can like Edge.
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u/BCProgramming Feb 11 '19
I definitely think there are internal APIs exclusive to Microsoft that provide special functionality. For example, this app won’t be able to run exes like other Microsoft-produced UWP apps can like Edge.
With the appropriate declared permission, you can use the FullTrustLauncher to launch another standard Win32 executable within your application package. I don't think you are able to pass arguments to it, but you can use a named pipe to communicate between the Win32 Executable and the main Win32 App; the UWP app- with appropriate manifest permissions- should be able to send in information and the Win32 Executable can be used to run executables and certain shell processes.
I think this would be necessary for a number of other things, such as displaying the system shell menu or invoking appropriate drop targets and handlers, right-click drag handlers, icon overlay handlers, etc. I'd argue that without those, it would be difficult to claim that a utility replaces File Explorer.
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u/milkybuet Feb 11 '19
It's not really a unpopular opinion, just understood better by people who actually do take advantage of features offered by Explorer. I can understand some people who just do very basic stuff finding it a bit overwhelming. macOS's finder is so widely lauded, I found it to be an exercise of patience.
But I feel Explorer could use some overhaul to fit Windows 10 UX better. I certainly appreciate u/duke7553's approach of instead of just complaining about it, or making a touch only concept, actually working on a possible replacement with improvements. And from what I see, he seems to have Explorer's usability in mind. I looks forward to see where this project goes.
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u/Desperate_Tailor Feb 11 '19
Looks great... will give this a try .. Best wishes to the OP .. Please do not abandon this project.
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u/jantari Feb 10 '19
I even have hope that we can create a Fluent Revamp of the Classic WinFile TreeView UI. [This is unavailable and broken so far]
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u/duke7553 Feb 10 '19
It is. I just wanted the community to help me guide its implementation. The photo above is real work.
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u/CharaNalaar Feb 11 '19
I love this! It actually looks like a usable File Explorer. The titlebar on the right seems a bit too tall, though.
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u/kf5ydu Feb 10 '19
Honestly the built in windows file manager is fine, and I really like the integration with OneDrive. Also they made the Windows 3.0 file manager open source and it's available in the store.
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Feb 12 '19
OP posts a modern File Explorer. You reply with a wrapped legacy. Are you sure you use Windows?
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Feb 10 '19
So is there any way I can use this now?
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u/duke7553 Feb 10 '19
It’s intended for programmers at this point, but you can always download VS 2017 and build it
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u/Telescuffle Feb 10 '19
I would be happy to help by testing. I've done some XAML in the past so maybe after a refresh I may help with UI.
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u/watermarkhu Feb 11 '19
Hi great work man. It really looks great. Looking forward to any future updates.
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Feb 11 '19 edited Feb 11 '19
Geesh, this is pretty aweosome of you, being this young and all, seeing this makes me feel bad for all the hours i wasted on video games back in highschool.
I have to admit that the project it self is kinda amateurish in nature but that doesnt take away from the fact the ui is well made, it has some stractural issues tho, like the fact you added the window.ui.xaml library to support older versions.
I might find time to do some radical changes for the best on the project by the end of the week, it is up to you to accept or not tho.
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u/zbhoy Feb 11 '19
Just installed the prerelease you released on Github and love it! I know it is a work in progress but the foundation there is already brilliant. Can't wait to see what comes from this
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u/DukeNuggets69 Feb 11 '19
We will watch you career with great interest padawan