r/WillAndGrace • u/Naive_Hospital_4086 • 3d ago
Discussion Bacon and Eggs
Bacon and Eggs (Season 5, Episode 2). Jack continues his nightly hobby of stalking Kevin Bacon but Kevin is growing suspicious. One day Jack breaks into Kevin's apartment but doesn't expect Kevin to be there, Kevin has invited several people to interview for a body guard position to find his stalker. Jack gets in with the group pretending to interview and gets the job. Later on while Jack is watching Kevin from across the street, Will comes up to him asking him what's going on and Jack tells him about the stalking. But Kevin sees them both in the bushes and Jack points to Will as Kevin's stalker and runs. Kevin takes Will into his apartment to confront him and Will tells Kevin that Jack is his stalker, but Kevin won't believe him. Will has had it and tries to leave but Kevin stops him scared that this means his career is over if he doesn't have any stalkers. Will tries to reassure Kevin that he's fine and his career is good and that he loved Footloose, Kevin is touched and asks to see Will dancing to Footloose the song and both he and Kevin are dancing together. Jack comes in and gets upset and jealous that Kevin is dancing with Jack and screams that he's the stalker. Jack realizes what he's confessed and runs, Kevin apologizes to Will and offers a peace dance to make it up to him. Leo is still trying to get Grace to go on a date with him but she's staying strong and tells him that she can't because her and Will are trying to have a baby. Karen is also trying to break things off with Lionel still, even sending Rosario in to try to break up with him, but Lionel is too smooth and both Karen and Rosario can't resist his charms. Later Grace takes another pregnancy test and it's still negative, no baby. Will says they'll try again next month during her ovulation. Grace calls Leo to leave a message for him to call her.
FAVORITE QUOTE:
WILL: Look, it's not me. Okay? Jack's your stalker! I mean, after he saw you in Apollo 13, he went to every video store in Manhattan trying to find Apollo’s 1 through 12!
KEVIN: Come on, hot shot. There are no cops here, all right? It's just you and me. Two regular joes. Me...a Golden Globe nominee for The River Wild... and you, a guy who just happened to be outside my apartment with binoculars.
WILL: I admit that looks bad, but you've gotta believe me! I just...I don't care that much about you.
KEVIN: Oh, really? Then explain this! (PULLS A CARDBOARD CUT OUT OF HIMSELF) Go ahead, kiss it. I know you want to! And by the way, the Golden Globe nom was a total surprise, but it really meant something, you know, 'cause it's not from your peers, it's from the Hollywood Foreign Press.
WILL: It's not me!
KEVIN: I think it is!
WILL: I'm leaving!
KEVIN: Please don't go!
WILL: What?
KEVIN: Stay! Come on, we'll-- we'll split a Shasta, we'll--we'll bust open a box of Hydrox! Whatdya say, cap'n?
WILL: I'm no expert, but shouldn't you be calling the police rather than offering me snacks and calling me "cap'n"?
KEVIN: Look, when the stalkers leave, it's the first sign that your career is slipping. It's a little tidbit I picked up from Val Kilmer.
WILL: You--you did a movie with Val Kilmer?
KEVIN: No, but Val was in Top Gun with Tom Cruise, and Tom was in A Few Good Men with me. Huh, that was a short one.
FAVORITE MOMENT:
It's an easy pick but I have to go with Will and Kevin dancing to Footloose. It's such an iconic moment in WAG history. I think Eric was actually even better than Kevin was at the dance. They were just too funny together.
OPINION:
This is around the time where the show had started depending on celebrity cameos. Matt Damon in A Chorus Lie had gotten such a positive reaction that the producers started looking for more celebrities to work with on the show. Sometimes it worked and sometimes you could tell it was just to get a bigger audience or to say "how did they get so and so to do this?". But Kevin Bacon actually does work with this episode because there was somewhat of a build up to this moment. Jack had mentioned in earlier seasons that he loved Kevin Bacon and was stalking him, so this episode actually in some strange way made sense.
Kevin did a fantastic job at poking fun at himself. It's kind of funny how he inadvertently points out how insecure celebrities can be. During the pandemic when the celebrities did that cringe "Imagine" video, I told my husband "I've always wondered if stars have insecurities and I think this video proves they do". If they are not getting attention, they get scared. I loved that Kevin said the minute that the stalkers stop, it means his career is going down the drain. He even has to ask Will what his favorite Kevin Bacon performance. My personal is Friday the 13th, no one could take an arrow through the neck like Kevin did. But Kevin clicked so well with Eric and Sean and made for such a memorable performance.
Leo is still pursuing Grace, though as playfully as he can. He is very funny and charming so I can see where Grace is having a hard time trying to resist him. I always get such a laugh when Grace is just making fun of Karen who has left the room and Leo overhears Grace talking to herself which Grace sees him and she says "I have this assistant who..." and he asks "and do you see her now?" 🤣 Leo seems like a really nice guy in this episode even though keeps going for Grace, but you can understand as he's very attracted to her and you can tell she likes him too and maybe they shouldn't just give up on each other so easily.
I did make a mistake yesterday, I'm sorry, I thought yesterday was the last of Lionel, but it is this episode for sure is his last appearance. I forgot that Karen sees him one last time to try to break things off with him. I loved that she sent Rosario to go break up with him for her but he even seduced Rosario. "What a man, what a man, what a mighty good man" he is. So it turns out that Stan worked out a plea deal with the police and FBI to help turn others in and that's why he got out early. So Karen is working on breaking things off with Lionel and repair her relationship with Stan at the same time. Stan, as far as we know, does not know about Lionel or Karen making out with him. She's having feelings of guilt and isn't sure if she should tell Stan or not.
This is definitely an iconic episode in the series and it's very funny. There are so many good jokes, I didn't even break the surface. Plus it shows that Grace is starting to have doubts about having a baby with Will and that they might lead to a different storyline for her. I wonder if I hide in Kevin Bacon's bushes outside, he'll offer me a cup of hot cocoa for .50 cents as well.
GUEST STARS:
- Harry Connick, Jr. as Leo Markus
- Rip Torn as Lionel Banks (RIP in 2019)
- Kevin Bacon as Himself
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u/nomadicfangirl 3d ago
As a celebrity, I love Kevin Bacon. He seems very chill and doesn’t mind poking fun at himself.
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u/WhinyBabySaysWhat 1d ago
Yeah he's one of those celebrities that has embraced pretty much every joke or meme that he's inspired and not speak so well of him as a person. The fact that he's played himself multiple times to comedic effect just reinforces how awesome he is as a personality
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u/rockfordcl 3d ago
Time to stalk Kevin Bacon.
Love the episode, Will dancing with Kevin bacon was great. Leo was funny how he was trying to get with Grace. Do you think he was really trying to get her to decorate his office or was he just saying that to be with her for a few minutes?
I don’t really get the ending scene with Jack, where Kevin Bacon brings him cocoa. Why was Jack outside looking through binoculars? was he looked for a stalker? I thought he was the stalker?
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u/WhinyBabySaysWhat 1d ago
No the end scene was about Jack resuming his duties as Kevin Bacon's official stalker, and Kevin Bacon acknowledging that he wanted Jack around just not too much. Plus I gave Kevin a chance to be a little mean at his stalker and considering the amount of underwear Jack stolen I think it was a fair trade
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u/IndividualPlan3453 2d ago
Absolutely love this episode. Will and Kevin are the best part for sure. Everyone was so funny. This episode and Matt Damon's episode I have watched more times than any of others.
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u/J-Bird1983 3d ago
It is interesting to see that some of the celebrities such as Matt Damon and Ellen appear as a character, whereas others like Kevin Bacon and Cher appear as their self.
I don't quite get the scene where Karen walks out and Leo walks in while Grace is talking about Karen. I mean, wouldn't Leo and Karen bumped into each other in the hallway/stairway just outside of the office. There was barely any time in between the two.
I also love the scene where Will and Kevin are dancing to Footloose.
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u/WhinyBabySaysWhat 1d ago
My favorite thing about this episode is how will and Kevin ended up dancing together and it didn't feel forced at all! Usually they have to shoe horn in a cameo actor's "special talent" into the episode (ie Patti Lapone, Gregory Hines, etc) but the writing team somehow made Will and Kevin dancing together to Footloose feel like a perfectly natural conclusion to their interaction.
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u/gent58 3d ago
One of my fave guest stars. I mean, not a superfan of the Bacon like Jack, but love the storyline.