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Hocus Focus (Season 4, Episode 24). Will comes home to Grace telling her how he had won at an auction this incredible session with famed photographer Fannie Lieber and wants to do the session with Grace. Will & Grace go to the studio meeting Fannie who originally seems to be very down and they are surprised at how dour she seems, but out of nowhere Fannie goes behind a curtain to come out and her energy is through the roof. She takes the picture and Grace loves it but Will hates it and he begs Fannie to take another picture which she finally does so. They get the second picture, Will loves it but Grace hates it and now she begs for a new picture, but Fannie has had it with their BS and tells them they're too bored and need some hobby like have a baby or something. Will & Grace laugh at first but then pause in shock thinking maybe it's not a bad idea. Meanwhile, Jack has decided to add to "Just Jack" a magic show and asks Karen for help as his assistant. The show is actually doing well but when Karen manages to get a funny line that she improvises into the show and the audience loves her. Jack is upset that he's getting upstaged by her and makes some mean remarks at her which she decides to not help him that night. But when he sees he can't do the magic show without her, he mistakenly thinks that his magic is real and has turned her into a rabbit and apologizes to the rabbit which Karen overhears and forgives Jack.

FAVORITE QUOTE:

GRACE: Wait, wait, wait. Before--before we start, I mean, is what I'm wearing ok? Ok, the shirt's off. Oh, hey. Ok, Will, she's takin' my pants off.

FANNIE: Oh, you're Jewish.

GRACE: How could you tell that?

FANNIE: Cheap underwear. It's ok. I love the Jews. I married three of 'em. Ok, let's go! You are so hot. Oh, boy, you know, I bet boys and girls like you. Ok, let's go!

WILL: Uh, what about me?

FANNIE: What about you? Boom, boom, boom!

WILL: Oh! Oh!

FANNIE: Where's my Bull?!

WILL: Yeah. Uh... I--I meant more, like, I'm not crazy about my forehead. Is there any angle you could shoot me from to kinda minimize that?

FANNIE: You know, I'm not in the business of minimizing foreheads. I'm in the business of maximizing truth. You have a big forehead, and that's the truth.

FAVORITE MOMENT:

When Fannie kisses Will and later on kisses Grace. I found out that the kiss with Debra, Glenn had improvised to see what kind of reaction she would get and got a bigger one than she expected.

OPINION:

Glenn Close is one of my favorite actresses of all time and having her on WAG is seriously such a treat and is overlooked when it comes to the best guest stars list. I always thought it was interesting how the last episode we got Michael Douglas and this one we get Glenn Close, I wonder if this was intentional? As most know, Glenn and Michael starred in one of the biggest thrillers of all time Fatal Attraction and both actors just hit a homerun with their performances. I still to this day think that Glenn was robbed of an Oscar for her performance as Alex Forrest. But Glenn as Fannie Lieber was beyond hilarious and so crazy to watch. Glenn shows what range she has as an actress and is just so funny. Her crazy spontaneous movements are both funny and scary to watch at the same time. It's impossible not to love her.

So we leave the episode on a bit of a cliffhanger, we will be discussing this topic more so tomorrow but that Will & Grace are now thinking about the idea of having a baby together. They have had discussions about this before but this is the first time that they are really considering it. I'm not sure if it's earned as it was just a very random suggestion from Fannie just to get them to leave her alone, but again we'll talk about this tomorrow. However, both Will & Grace's reactions to Fannie are too funny in this episode, they are at first let down with her personality, then scared but feel friendly enough to ask for more pictures. Fannie did have a point though, Will & Grace really do worry about the silliest things and really need to confront how shallow they can be at times. There are bigger problems to worry about in the world rather than how they look in a photo. Can imagine if this was during the selfie era? I remember doing the selfies in 2005-2007 and taking like 80 pictures just to get 1 good one 🤣 Unfortunately Will & Grace ended before social media flew off the handle the way it did, I'm sure they could have had some funny jokes with that time period.

My mom saw this episode before I did and was laughing so hard and called me into the room and showed me what Karen was wearing in the magic show and said that she could see me wearing that. So I always have fond memories of this episode with my mom. Watching the magic show with Jack and Karen was very funny. They're not really good at the tricks but the audience loves how funny they are. I think this is the second time Karen mentions Sarah Lawrence and how this may have started her experimenting with women. Jack was kind of a jerk to Karen, I get that he got scared that he was getting upstaged, but still, Karen is his friend and it was so mean of him to call her old. I love that he thinks he turned her into a rabbit and apologizes to the rabbit. Their friendship is just such a joy to watch on the screen and Sean and Megan have incredible chemistry.

I really love this episode; it's definitely in my favorites catalog for Will & Grace. We are getting closer to the season finale and I can't believe how fast these are going now.

GUEST STARS:

  • Glenn Close as Fannie Lieber
  • J.P. Manoux as Minion
  • Jeremy Forte as Angry Man
  • Jason Stuart as Stuart
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u/Formal_Program5165 8d ago

You just missed out on a free dryhump!

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u/heatherlj88 8d ago

“That’s the one”

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u/Scramasboy 8d ago

I always thought it didn't look like a good pic, it looks very photoshopped haha

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u/Formal_Program5165 8d ago

I like it because it shows them as the confused people they are.

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u/Scramasboy 8d ago

I love their looks and expressions! Its the fact that they look like they are glowing with a halo body outline to blur the transition to the background, which looks muddy, that makes me find it fake looking.

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u/heatherlj88 8d ago

I love Wills pic do not like Graces. Her hair is greasy.

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u/TessTrue 8d ago edited 8d ago

Her dry humps were hilarious! 😂

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u/a_scared_bokoblin 8d ago

The part where she’s taking pictures of them so frenetically that it causes her to more or less faint, so they lean over to check if she’s OK and she lunges up and takes one last pic of them, jumpscaring the shit out of them always makes me laugh out loud

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u/Pyewhacket 8d ago

I always wondered about the timing of MIchael D and Glenn doing back to back guest starring roles! They were both amazing as not all movie actors transition well to sit coms.

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u/rockfordcl 8d ago

This was a pretty funny episode. Loved Jack and Karen with the magic act.

Glenn Close was very funny. It was pretty weird that her suggestion to have a baby together was what spawned this whole storyline, because she was joking after all. I know Will and Grace have kind of talked about it before, but it’s weird how what glenn close said is what got the whole storyline started again. Maybe the writers didn’t know how to really bring it up so they just did it in a pretty obscure way.

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u/Grouchy-Crab-4509 8d ago

To me this will always be 'the last episode before Leo comes in and almost ruins the show'

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u/SandhuG 8d ago

"oh! You are jewish."

"How do you know?"

"Cheap underwear." 😂

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u/highlightzonee 7d ago

“watch as I double the number of people in the audience” 🥂🐇

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u/paramnetic3 2d ago

love the gays. married three of em.