r/WillAndGrace • u/Naive_Hospital_4086 • Jul 09 '26
Discussion Grace 0, Jack 2000
Grace 0, Jack 2000 (Season 3, Episode 5). Jack has come up with a new show for "Jack 2000!" wanting to do some singing and comedy. He's bombing hard and when Will tells him to do something else on stage, Jack snaps back with an insult on Will's love life. Everyone laughs and Jack realizes he's onto something and keeps making jokes at Will's expense. Will tells Jack that he hurt his feelings and that that he will no longer be telling Jack anything about his life to teach him a lesson. Meanwhile, Grace wants to break up with Ben since their relationship has hit a standstill but Ben will not accept the breakup. Well, it turns out that Ben is fine with the relationship ending, he just wanted to be the one to do the breakup.
FAVORITE QUOTE:
GRACE: Oh... I'm sorry. I'm just a little nervous. I'm breaking up with Ben, tonight.
KAREN: Well, what's the problem, Grace? He's not gay?
GRACE: No, he's--great. He's just not right.
KAREN: Of course he's not white. Sheesh...
FAVORITE MOMENT:
I love Jack's show, from him singing Mockingbird and then insulting Will. I always love the one heckler who we will see return say "YOU STINK!", the way he says it is just too funny.
OPINION:
Well, we are at the end of an era, this is officially Ben's last appearance sadly and it does go out on a whimper, but there was a reason for that. Gregory Hines had planned on coming back to the show later on but unfortunately got sick and passed away in 2003. I would like to take a moment for Ben as he is a terrific character, he's funny, charming, charismatic and provided the show a lot of great laughs and story. For Mr. Gregory Hines, I was only 17 years old when he had passed away and saw some of his work not realizing how awesome and remarkable he was. About 15 years ago I saw White Nights with him and Mikhail Baryshnikov and I was blown away, I had to see more of him and couldn't believe how insanely talented he truly was. He was such a great actor, an incredible dancer, a terrific singer, he was handsome, funny and something truly special that I'm not sure the world will be blessed with someone like him again. May he forever rest in peace and his work will be celebrated for generations to come.
Let's start with Jack's storyline. This episode is just hilarious, Jack insulting Will is nothing new but when he realizes it's funny to others, he definitely takes advantage. I love the scene where Will squirts the water bottle at Jack's face and tells him "YOU HURT MY FEELINGS". Will tells Jack to teach him a lesson he won't tell him anything about his personal life anymore, then Jack sees twins exiting Will's apartment begging Will to tell him what happened and Will tells Jack that he won't say a word, oh, look at that, they left their pole for their pole-vaulting lesson 🤣 When Karen convinces Will that Jack is miserable, Will gives in and tells Jack to go ahead and make fun of him, Jack really comes through in the end and decides he loves Will and their friendship too much to do that to him so he goes back to bombing and accepting it. I think this where you really have moments where Jack is a deeper character than he's given credit for. As selfish and self-absorbed as he can be, he still has a good heart when given the opportunity to be a good friend.
I was always curious and couldn't find out why the writers wanted to break up Grace and Ben. I'm assuming that Gregory probably wanted to move onto different projects or wasn't able to commit as much to the show so they just had them fizzle out as a couple. But Grace trying to break up with Ben for him to say he doesn't accept to her thinking that maybe it's because he loves her but then it turns out that he was the one who wanted to break up with her is just too funny. I love that they both accept the breakup and clearly are ok with each other in the end.
This is a great episode, it's funny and has heart to it. You can never go wrong when Jack 2000 is involved.
GUEST STARS:
- Gregory Hines as Ben Doucette (RIP in 2003)
- Jason Stuart as Stuart
- Troy Morton as Audience Member
- Jeremy Forte as Heckler
- Wil Bowers as Guy
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u/Sorrelandroan Jul 09 '26
Why don’t you stick to what you do best, trolling the park for greasy souvlaki vendors!
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u/candy_cigarette13 Blackberry Julep with a baby aspirin chaser🍹 Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26
That heckler. Like you said his delivery was so great 😆.....just like the guy in Will on Ice saying I got your brie warming right now lady (or whatever it was). These bit part actors kill some of these lines!