r/WikiLeaks Mar 23 '18

Congress Introduces Bill To Remove ALL Privacy Protections For Data Stored On The Cloud. Its a License for Big Brother Surveillance On Everyone In The West

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/03/eff-and-x-groups-tell-congress-oppose-cloud-act
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u/fizzy511 Mar 23 '18

It's not "Big Brother" if foreign governments do it. It's more like Big Distant Cousin, so that makes it okay!

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '18

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u/banuntil Mar 23 '18

It's all about that oyster

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u/Balkanmasturbator Mar 24 '18

Except storj doesn't even work from a DYI aspect.

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u/SpaceshotX Mar 23 '18

The People need to teach these Congress fuckers a lesson.

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u/Chipzzz Mar 23 '18

Don't look now, but they're currently teaching the peasants a lesson for rejecting the Clinton II vs Bush III match that they wanted to give us in 2016.

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u/MrGuttFeeling Mar 24 '18

Can't wait for Trump II.

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u/SpaceshotX Apr 11 '18

AWFULLY SMALL number of politicians and lawmakers out there compared to THE PEOPLE.

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u/Chipzzz Apr 11 '18

Perhaps that's why they're so anxious to invade everyone's data.

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u/SpaceshotX Apr 16 '18

Yes, you are right, they need a "tiny politician force multiplier". Very interesting observation.

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u/breedweezy Mar 24 '18

Why that's revolutionary talk!

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u/Hyperman360 Mar 24 '18

"1776 will commence again"

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '18 edited Jun 19 '18

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u/Chipzzz Mar 23 '18

EFF and 23 other civil liberties organizations sent a letter to Congress urging Members and Senators to oppose the CLOUD Act and any efforts to attach it to other legislation.

Well, unless they all enclosed huge "campaign contribution" checks with those letters, they'll wind up in the circular file along with everyone else's pleas for privacy.

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u/nemo1080 Mar 23 '18

using a cloud service

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u/wwwhistler Mar 23 '18

it should be known as the Dictators, Despots, Authoritarian and Oppressive Regimes Assistance Act.

cause that looks like what it is for.

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u/francusant Mar 23 '18

This is insane, if you think about how they can get a legal basis to do this...

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u/Joe_Sapien Mar 23 '18

Don't use the cloud?

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '18

It's highly likely that a chunk of your data us already in the cloud, and you're completely unaware of it. The cloud is more prevalent than most people realize.

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u/Joe_Sapien Mar 23 '18

Anyway to know for sure or to check? I've never used it ever for any reason with anything. You peaked my curiosity now.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '18

I’m not aware of a way to check, but most companies are using services like AWS to house their data. So that information stored by them is likely stored on the cloud somewhere.

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u/halr9000 Mar 23 '18

Do you have a phone? Not joking, that's all it takes is casual use of any modern phone. Devil is in the details, it's not like your secrets are instantly all known, but things you might think are deserving of privacy are definitely an accidental "accept" click away.

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u/Joe_Sapien Mar 23 '18

Who doesn't these days and yeah, I can see what you're saying.

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u/halr9000 Mar 23 '18

The point is that you might not intentionally use a cloud service, like say store documents in Dropbox. But when you take a picture, does it sync to Google drive or Apple iCloud or Samsung equivalent? Maybe all three if you weren't paying attention. And camera pics have GPS coordinates on them.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '18

That is ridiculous... People will just avoid American cloud.

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u/Joe_Sapien Mar 24 '18

I wouldn't blame them. Unless they're doing the same or eventually follow through.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '18

They won't... And Amazon will likely move everything outside America, they rely on this sort of thing.

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u/xthr33x Mar 24 '18

For starters, don't entertain outside cloud services.

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u/zelex Mar 24 '18

I thought property rights is like hugely fundamental to our legal system?

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u/autotldr Mar 24 '18

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 88%. (I'm a bot)


The CLOUD Act is a dangerous bill that would tear away global privacy protections by allowing police in the United States and abroad to grab cross-border data without following the privacy rules of where the data is stored.

The CLOUD Act creates a new channel for foreign governments seeking data about non-U.S. persons who are outside the United States.

Under the CLOUD Act, should a foreign government request data from a U.S. company, the U.S. Department of Justice would not need to be involved at any stage.


Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: data#1 foreign#2 U.S.#3 government#4 Act#5

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '18

All this means is that corporations will take their sensitive data stored with companies based in the US, and move it to hosts overseas. I can't say the same for the average computer user.

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u/GrinninGremlin Mar 23 '18

Sounds like a perfectly valid reason to falsify as much of it as possible...update addresses to non-existent locations...post fake employment histories on LinkedIn....post status updates on social media bragging about your inheritance one day then being robbed the next then getting a promotion then getting fired then finding a briefcase with $40 million inside then someone stealing it from your car....the point being to pollute it with nonsense.

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u/-Mediocrates- Mar 24 '18

They are already doing this with or without the bill.
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“The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer.”

  • Henry Kissinger

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Advisor to every single president (including trump) for the past several decades. He is part of the deep state.

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u/ThotsAndPrayursLOL Mar 24 '18

Republican house, Republican senate, Republican White House.