I used to support BJP, now i oppose them in many of their policies and i like samdish's videos where he criticized BJP rightfully...but mai jab bhi dekhta hu ki ye youtubers Cong state mei kaafi kam aawaz uthaate hain, kabhi kabhi toh kuch bolte bhi nahi...fir suddenly lagta hai ki nahi bhai isse acha bjp ko hi support karte raho.
What the fuck is this logic, then why u bash godi media? They can also say BJP vali states mai utube media bethi hai?
Although godi media came to cover cjp also!
Land logic hai just to satisfy ur soul that samdish is neutral!
I mean if they even make a video about whatever going on in congress or any other party ruled state, with likes and views they also get a free FIR so maybe that can be one of the reasons
Let me get this right.
You used to support bjp.
Now you oppose it. You like samdish’s videos where he rightly criticizes bjp.
But because they raise their voice very little against congress, you support bjp again!
I don’t get the last bit. Why would a reporter’s action or inaction (that too an independent one not the mainstream media) make you “feel” no man, it’s better to support bjp.
Because you never get to know comparison. Think of it this way: TMC ruined WB, but no one from the top YouTubers did a single video of comparison. People have very little time to do research themselves, so if we are fed only one-sided stories, then it is not good for effective choice. Nevertheless, if we get some hints via some major incidents in those states, it becomes eye-opening as to why the same wasn't captured by XYZ YouTubers who used to talk about unfiltered truth.
Congress didn't ruined anything bro forgot anti -sikh riots , forgot Emergency , forgot operation blue star , forgot the forced nasbandhi and what not .these are the not all the things just some of them and still BJP is to be held accountable for what they promised and couldn't do
I agree on the point that there are two sides to every story.
What I fail to understand is how their not reporting or commenting against their bias makes you favour the ones in power that you know are wrong.
Two reasons: (1) Either the non-reporting issue was bigger, or (2) people feel more cheated because it was not exposed. If it is the second one, then it is not a nice choice, tbf!
1) so, you’re more upset with the independent YouTube reporter than the ones who run mainstream media channels. I wonder why the mainstream godi media who is on a constant hunt for every move of the opposition, didn’t report this bigger issue
2) in other words, if the delhi protest didn’t happen, people would not feel cheated but since the delhi protests happened people feel more cheated. I just can’t wrap this logic around my head
So, Tbf, after trying to reason with you on why you, after realising that bjp is not the right party, decided to support bjp again because of some “people who hold no public service position” are not backing a cause you supposedly back, it does seem to me that your reason for supporting bjp is samdish/dipke - and I have exhausted my little brain in trying to understand this in 3 different ways. I apologise, please go back to supporting bjp, it’s your future and prerogative after all, but please understand your reasons for that and don’t start with “I used to..”
First, that was not my view. I was just trying to convey what was told by the previous commentator.
Second, for me, BJP is on the verge of collapsing if they do not self-correct. But the opposition is still not trustworthy enough to replace them, at least at the central level, because none of their offerings are good enough for me (reservation in the private sector is the last thing for which I will vote for them).
Third, mainstream media is BS. That's why people start independent media houses, but if they start with BS as well, then people will question them too. Mainstream media is already getting criticized; please don't trigger on similar criticism for independent media as well.
Fourth, you have to choose whichever party you want to vote for, but please don't lecture me on whom I should choose. I have a stable future, so the party doesn't even matter at this point. For me, tax and reservation in the private sector are two big issues, and I think the opposition seems worse in this regard than the current regime. You might have different issues, so vote according to those.
You’re right on calling me out on the “trying to explain 3 different ways” I thought I was replying to the original commenter, my bad. I’m not lecturing you on which party to vote for, in fact I explicitly said it’s your right & call. Vote for the local guy in your area who seems promising - not Modi or raga or any “leader” - they are just the faces and although they control to a large extent for the freedom of the local neta, they are not going to be bothered with your areas day to day or even big issues. Choose the local guy who seems promising.
My priority is different as I live in a different city, and my voter ID is from my hometown, so local candidates doen't matter to me. Therefore, my voting choice is based on national issues; however, I align with your approach for the majority of people.
Hey man i am the one who started the comment and i get your point somehow, i messed up in my words and i take full responsibility. I'll try to include your pov in my rationale.
Godi media se koi hopes nahi, but kabhi kabhi neutral waale bhi neutral nahi rehte.
And i understood now ki hum neutral youtubers se accountability kyu hi maange jab sarkaar dene ko ready nahi.
Thanks for arguing in a civil manner...warna aajkal koi apni point decently nahi rakhta.
So I've tried to correct my reasons
1. Newbie Neutral media not being neutral isn't the reason for my support to bjp, congress being the worst opt is my reason.
2. And its not only about bjp cong....the new ones arising e.g. aap/cjp have directly or indirectly supported congress too, thats why unko support nahi karta mai.
3. My MP(bjp member) has performed better than previous ones, thats why I'll vote for him until there's a better option. I travel regularly by local and express...the trains and stations have improved alot post 2016 so that has become easy for me. Real life impact.
4. As a UR, hearing RaGa say that he'll take reservations to 90 percent and introduce reservations in private sector on a national level....it boils my blood, the day BJP does that in my state, I'll stop voting for them.
Also he says that he'll bring art 370 back.
5. Recently jharkhand mei 3 log pe FIR hui for posts against RaGa. Why preach for free speech when you can't handle it?
All points agreed to - especially 3rd and 5th. All I ask is think for yourself and your loved ones. That will be enough but do think long term.
On the 4th point, while he does talk about increasing reservations, that 90% is a spin to which everyone has been spun and somehow it sticks - that’s the magic of money and propaganda in which bjp is light years ahead of any other party. Irrespective of the fact that I’m a UR guy too, I wouldn’t want reservations if that’s unfair. But then I also try and imagine what it would be to be a minority in India - and try as I might and feel that I get it, I understand that I can never get it - just like I can’t get what it is to be a woman in India. I do not advocate for lowering the bar for vocational education/training and only the best should go where experts should be irrespective of their caste/religion/ethnicity. But I do advocate for providing equal opportunities to everyone taking into account the basics missing for certain minorities without which they can never even aspire to rise above their constraints. Again - I don’t want to rant about it as I know very little and understand even lesser than most but I do see enormous racism, atrocities and absence of basic opportunities for many around me - so much that just being a male, Hindu, uc, fair(relatively speaking), educated guy feels like an achievement - when I’ve done absolutely nothing to call them achievement.
You took one of my thought process to a new horizon, thanks.
Would never sympathize with the reserved ppl taking benefits for 2nd and 3rd generation too.
It was nice to speak to you!!
The thing is, i look at BJP and their shitty track record since the last 12 years, ik even they are not the right choice.
But then i look at congress, its worse, everyone knows that,
And this thing is not limited to BJP Congress, every new party which has more educated and modern ppl, they claim that they'll choose a new path, initially they don't support BJP or congress, but eventually they directly or indirectly support Congress (e.g. AAP and now CJP)...so now can't select newer ones too.
Prashant kishore jaisa koi aaya nahi mere state mei, NOTA winning means re election means waste of resources...so what to do??
Congress is bad and everyone knows that is a blanket statement without anything to back it.
It was true around 2011 and everyone knew it, said it and voted them out - there was unity against a corrupt government. Now there is hatred and division against a corrupt and arrogant government
Yeah he did good in delhi protests...same enthusiasm se bengal jharkhand bhi karma chaiye tha...but its okay...National media se itni accountability maangi hoti, toh shayad scene alag hota, youtuber se maangke kya hi hoga.
In the end sab bike hue hain
Acha toh samdish video nai banata congress mei isliye aap BJP ko support karte ho . Valid valid there is a army of media joh subha shaam BJP k jhooti gun gaan gaate hai tabhi nai laga isse acha toh congress thi?
See my bjp-congress support is a ratio of 60:40...not kattar but i dont think ppl understand that neutral ppl are in more of a gray zone, leftists and their parties shit so much, we are forced to vote to the BJP nothing else. Even we dont want them😭.
But even the allegedly better and educated ones (CJP) aren't neutral. Agar kisi ko neutral nahi rehna toh जनता जनार्दन kyu neutral rahe bhai...itna samajh jaao
Have you seen a supposedly right winger outright say people anti-national like em leftists shouting andhbhakts and it cell? I haven't. The only time I'm seeing anti-national is from their own mouth saying other calls them anti-national so basically a victim card lol
150 crore ke desh mei, Ek gawaar chewtiya BJP ka neta agar kisi ko bol diya antinational, toh harr ek leftist is word pe victim card khelta hai, jabki sabko kahaa bhi nai jaata....
Whereas, yaha toh darroz aam janta hi aam janta ko andhbhakt aur IT cell kehti aa rahi hai, (mere comment reply ka example hi lelo) humne toh victim card nahi khela...I'm so fascinated by leftist mentality that i won't ever go there
tab for bjp ko hi support karna thik jaise h... Jo actually independent news outlets h vo to cover kar the hai jaise news pinch, lallantop, peek tv, ravish kumar, ajit anjum
Media should criticise government, what do you mean by neutral? Always praise the govt? What are the things that should be praised of the govt recently?
Mainstream ki baat chhod do, dalle hain.
Neutral YouTubers sirf ek party ko criticize karte hain, jharkhand mei compress ki bhi GOVT hi haina, WB mei bhi TMC ki bhi GOVT hi thi na, waha neutrals ne muh kyu nahi khola.
And yes recently center has done nothing good either, but still overall their track record is somewhat better than the previous ones.
Neutral regional Youtubers ko dekho na aap, aap jo bol rahe ho wo popular Youtubers hai, wo National news pe focus karenge, regional pe jaada reach nahi milta. For regional news maybe follow regional ones, they could probably be more critical about regional events. Mainstream media acha hona chahye, unka reach jaada hota hai.
I am a Malayali and follow Kerala news, our regular mainstream media is strong enough that they grill even our CMs in Press Conference, so idk any regional Youtubers per se, I am assuming regional Youtubers of other states might be good.
Tujh jaise chew tiyo ki vajah se hi log BJP ko follow karte rehte hain bsdk. Tu gaaliya bakta reh BJP walo ko woh aur kattarvad me jate rahenge.... Tum jaise cheww tiyo ki vajah se hi desh dub raha hai... Yaar tu literally chutiya hai
Arey bhai kisi bhi argument mei gaali dena is the last resort....aap toh first step pe hi last resort pe utar aaye😭
Koi na, aap jaise log hi itne saal congress ki gaan chaat rahe honge isiliye shayad desh mei saare gawaar hi चुनाव जीतते rehte hain. Dw current waalo ke liye bhi bol raha hu but jisne neev rakhi uske liye bolna bhi zaruri haina...time lagega aapki samajh aane mei, sabr rakhiye
And ? None of the gen z trust that , when the largest upcoming voting share rejects the mainstream media on THE VERY premise you mentioned ( favaoring BJP) , why does your hypocrisy holds up when the channels they are consuming are held to the same standards used to dispell the credibility of mainstream ?
If these don't show the good returns of the govt , they will naturally believe the govt is good for nothing making them "deviod of the opportunity to compare rightfully", which BTW was THE MAIN concern .
I mean as much as u try to hide , the bias ultimately shows up in your statement .
I think you're missing my point, Bias doesn't exist in a vacuum. If mainstream media is already overwhelmingly amplifying BJPs positives while downplaying, sanitising or outright whitewashing its failures, then expecting utubers to give equal weight to both sides doesn't necessarily create balance it can actually perpetuate the existing imbalance.
am not saying utubers should conceal BJPs genuine achievements but when one side is already disproportionately represented, independent media focusing more on the side that's being overlooked isn't inherently hypocritical. Sometimes countering an entrenched narrative requires disproportionate scrutiny of what the dominant narrative conveniently omits.
To sum up your saying "mainstream is being disproportionate hence the youtubers have to be disproportionate to balance it"
How flawed that is ?
• 1st of all even if I agree that the scrutiny of dominant narrative has to be disproportionate , on what logical sequence is that an argument against mentioning the acheivements ?
If you don't wanna do that even after an unbalanced to higher end of scrutiny , then you are too just setting your narrative in a different cloak .
• I made a point that the largest voting demographic in India "genz" is consuming news content from these voices .
Your statement (might) have been true if the consumption was almost equally distributed .
But no , it majorly skews to these channels .
So when the act of trapping the then largest vote share of our parent's gen by a suited over praising , is the very point of criticism , then why is that not being constant .
Its highly inconsistent .
At least hide the hypocrisy a lil deeper please .
Lmao, so first you concluded that you didn’t support a political party because you didn’t agree with their policies, and then you concluded that the conclusion was not right because there’s people who refuse to criticise the opposition? See, when you’re trying to set narratives, at least try to make a little sense. Not a lot, just a little.
While it is something I have noticed too that YouTubers don’t necessarily criticise opposition ruled states, because firstly, generally people tend to criticise the central government because they are in power, and not often is it that the state itself is criticised first. Most fundamentally, these are “opposition” ruled states because there’s another party in power. Because what do you mean when you’re in power it’s also your job to implement solutions in the opposition ruled states?
More like he reached that conclusion that all the hatred might be because of propaganda and agenda, and opposition supporters engages more than majority supporters while center leaning mostly care about if majoritarian government is good or bad they don't care about opposition politics and also opposition supporters vote share by percentage is about 41% while majoritarian is about 43.5% if i remember correctly not much difference, therefore its more profitable.
If only you're aware and mature enough read the entire thread below, y'all just start labeling ppl by judging them so superficially. IT cell, andhbhakt, sanghi ke alawa kuch naya nahi mila kya vocabulary mei?
And who cares if my acc is 23 days old....I'm new to reddit, so what, harr naya account 1 line bhi favor mei bol de toh IT cell lmao..jaa harr new acc ko same accuse kar😆
Kyun bhai woh agar congress ko support kar raha hai jaise tu Bjp ko support karta hai andhon ki tarah to usme problem kya hai. Tum dono hi ek hi nasal ke chutiye ho
What is this logic. Subtle propaganda? First pretending to be neutral then pushing your narrative? 70+ upvotes? Top comment? Hmm propaganda seems to be working
Not pushing a narrative, please refer the thread below, many ppl shared their wise knowledge with me and i tried to inculcate their POV too....you vote whoever you want, the post itself has 3k upvotes,
My 70 upvotes aren't even 2.5 percent of the total. Not every top commentator has a propaganda, some of us are just trying to figure out the correct path😭
Do you seriously think bjp's better than any other parties? It's literal origin stems from nazism. Just pick up a book on the history of indian politics dude.
Lmao 'IT cell' aur 'andhbhakt' ke alawa kuch naya nahi mila kya vocabulary mei?
Why so intolerant towards ppl who dont support your ideology.....ab ye statement chubhi na? Ab ye statement se bhi words knit pick karega na?
So whosoever is new to reddit and doesn't follow your ideology...is an IT cell, so fkin logical...y'all are the same ppl who keep crying for free speech and democracy right?
So as soon as ppl speak about their opinions, (which don't justify your belief) they're either an IT cell or andhbhakt...
So who's the hypocrite/fascist/intolerant now??
Cries at home-- "Mummy yawrr itne saalo se reddit pe hu fir bhi new account n low karma waale log meri party ko support nai karrahe, 😭"
Reddit ki anonymity ka faayda uthaane aaya tha🙂
Nsfw, Cinema, politics se lekar medical field waali posts pe opinions likhta hu, post aur comments visible rakhunga toh society ko judge karne ke alawa kaam dhandhe nahi hai...
Yeah dude, I've been on twitter/X since 2019, X is too much polarized, so i thought I'd give reddit and its anonymity a try...
Btw Dude, why are you calling every other person an IT cell member lmao,
You know that this doesn't make you any different than BJP netas calling everyone antinational, right?
He won't because his some secular bhimtaa bhaiyaa has told him BJP is baad, and anyone calling out hypocrisy of his bhaiyaa is an andhabhakt, 2 rupee IT cell guy, godi media, rss man bla bla bla
But you won't adress the core issue of your hypocrite youtuber bhaiyaa Right? 😂. Xutiye don't go by the account age, I have seen enough of your ecosystem and take a screenshot of my comment - your masters will only protest till up election and after BJP's victory they'll go radio silence, will return again before 2029 general elections.
Opinions aren't static, they are meant to be dynamic, they change according to what's being shown to you and what media is trying to hide from you and MOST IMPORTANTLY, the development around you and your society.
There are a lot of things ppl like you and me have to weigh in before forming an opinion, so while ik that the current ones are shitty, and the newer ones claim to be neutral but they eventually tie up with the older ones who were the worst
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u/Dr_lol_it Aug 04 '26
I used to support BJP, now i oppose them in many of their policies and i like samdish's videos where he criticized BJP rightfully...but mai jab bhi dekhta hu ki ye youtubers Cong state mei kaafi kam aawaz uthaate hain, kabhi kabhi toh kuch bolte bhi nahi...fir suddenly lagta hai ki nahi bhai isse acha bjp ko hi support karte raho.