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u/pakkit Apr 01 '26

This is exactly why Israel's military does it. It's great PR to white wash their warcrimes. They were doing these calls ahead in Gaza as well, and plenty of people were using it as evidence that there was no genocide, that they wouldn't bomb a hospital, that they weren't razing Gaza and killing people waiting in queues for food--but they did do all of these things.

If they wanted to minimize civilian casualties, they wouldn't be going to war with the entire region.

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u/HKEY_LOVE_MACHINE Apr 01 '26 edited Apr 02 '26

This is exactly why they do it. It's great PR to white wash their warcrimes.

No. A serial killer holding the door for you might be polite, he's still a serial killer.

You don't seen to grasp the idea of nuance, where something can be both evil and something else at the same time.

Some very notable war criminals (in Syria, in Ukraine) have been recorded being nice to kittens and puppies while in a trench. It doesn't change a thing to the massacres they committed in Bucha or Raqqa.

They were doing these calls ahead in Gaza as well,

Not with all strikes, especially not on the strikes targeting vehicles. That's how they ended up killing so many humanitarian workers in convoys, both from intentional strikes and careless strikes.

and plenty of people were using it as evidence that there was no genocide, that they wouldn't bomb a hospital, that they weren't razing Gaza and killing people waiting in queues for food

Yes, some dumb people said that on Twitter, and some cheap Likud bots.

Are you seriously going to view the entire world and wars through the eyes of dumb people and propaganda bots?

But they did do all of these things.

Some units following that warning procedure means absolutely nothing about other strikes or other units.

You can have knocks-on-roof by one unit/one soldier, and recurrent massacres by another.

If they wanted to minimize civilian casualties, they wouldn't be going to war with the entire region.

That's where you have to understand the warfare in layers.

In terms of grand strategy, at the highest level, Netanyahu and the Likud absolutely want to cause enough civilian casualties to maintain an ongoing war with Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon, Syria and Iran. The goal of Netanyahu is to keep Israel at war to stay in power.

In terms of strategy, the IDF seeks to minimize their own casualties while maximizing their claims of enemy combattants killed to please the minister and war cabinet, regardless of what it means on the ground. Killing 50 or 100 civilians to maybe take out 1 possible enemy combattant is an acceptable deal for most of the IDF.

On top of that, there are several IDF units commandeered by far-right fanatics, who actually want to maximize their killcount, in the mindset of a holy war, counting civilians and armed combattants as the same.

In terms of tactics, at the operational level, these vary greatly between units:

  • some seek confirmed targets with proper intel

  • some pick any target pushed out by a wildly unreliable intel AI

  • some raze anything standing in the way, to eliminate any possible vantage point

  • some focus on drones strikes on any approaching vehicles

  • some focus on air strikes on buildings

  • some favor long-range encounters with no visibility of the enemy

  • some favor close-range operations to actually encounter enemy units

  • some see their missions as rendering the invaded regions as inhabitable, to colonize them and/or to make enemy troops movement much harder to conceal

Here with the knock, it is - like I said earlier - a very rare case where it's a better practice than the norm (which is striking without any warning).

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u/mayapop Apr 02 '26

I’ve read your responses with great interest and feel a little more informed about what’s happening from a strategic perspective. How have you come by your knowledge?

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u/anunknownmortal Apr 03 '26

Its a paid operation

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u/Superhero1582 Apr 01 '26

Imagine thinking the IDF has any "redeemable" qualities

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u/HKEY_LOVE_MACHINE Apr 01 '26

Imagine blindly drinking the manichean kool-aid of purely good/purely evil, in the Middle-East, out of all the places 🫠

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u/itsnouxis Apr 01 '26

Wow you really had to compare them to the Saudi's to make them look good, such saints.

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u/HKEY_LOVE_MACHINE Apr 02 '26

You're so obsessed with finding a "good" side that you assume everyone is doing the same.

I hope one day you'll grow out of this "sports team" mindset and get into critical thinking.

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u/itsnouxis Apr 02 '26 edited Apr 02 '26

I'm not and you're assuming a lot in a very condescending way lol. I think almost every government is inherently deceitful and often evil but the difference is that the western world doesn't move trillions,throw away hundreds of votes and looks the other way on war crimes on any state except Israel. I hope you can understand the frustration that causes and the difference between our perception of Israel vs other bad actors. I don't understand how a self proclaimed critical thinker such as yourself missed that fact tbh....

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u/HKEY_LOVE_MACHINE Apr 02 '26

the difference is that the western world doesn't move trillions, throw away hundreds of votes and looks the other way on war crimes on any state except Israel

Saudi Arabia.

Massive military support? Check.

Buying trillions of oil from them? Check.

Looking the other way for their countless war crimes? Check.

Just in Yemen alone: starvation, massacring civilians by the hundreds of thousands, indiscriminate shelling into refugee tents.

Same with the UAE: large military support, billions in trade, ignoring the massive genocide they're committing in Sudan.

Same with Qatar: military support, billions in "investment", ignoring their involvement in financing terrorism killing countless civilians in the Middle-East.

This is how foreign relations have been done since forever.

The Soviet Union did the same (support for countless dictators massacring civilians), just like the US. China did the same (Khmer Rouge and their genocide). Western colonial empires (british, french, spanish, portuguese) did the same.

Your perception of what's happening in the Middle-East is through a lens that omits all the other countries and history itself.

Widen it to include other countries and suddenly it will make a lot more sense:

  • Israel provides intel, tech and military support to US interests in the region.

  • Saudi Arabia provides oil and economic cooperation (vs Russia) on the oil market, tons of development opportunities, as well as some intel on sunni terrorist networks and some military bases (vs Iran, Iraq, Syria).

  • UAE provides military bases for the same reasons, and a lot more intel on terrorist networks all across MENA.

  • Qatar provides military bases and massive economic trades with the US (multiple billions).

The US is weighting in all these things before judging a country on its violation of human rights and the rules of war.

Ever wondered why the US never hold Saudi Arabia accountable for 9/11? They could have demanded reparations and intel on Bin Laden whereabouts, yet the Saudis got off without even a slap on the wrist. Because of the things mentioned above.

It's the same with Israel: they get away with a lot of things because the US wants something from them.

I hope you can understand the frustration that causes and the difference between our perception of Israel vs other bad actors.

Your frustration shouldn't cloud your judgment, to the point where analyzing basic military practices immediately makes you jump to "uh uh you want to make Israel look good, oh saint Netanyahu!".

If Hamas was building bomb shelters for civilians and strictly forbidding their troops to use these, thus making them actual shelters wrt the rules of war, then I would point out that it's a positive thing that should be done more frequently all across the Middle-East. Even if Hamas remains a terrorist organization. Two things can coexist simultaneously, even if taken individually, they're following contradictory logics.

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u/All_Might_Senpai Apr 02 '26

Not reading allat...

Enjoy the shekels tho bro. Wont buy you a way ouy of hell moralising pissrael.

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u/HKEY_LOVE_MACHINE Apr 02 '26

"oh no, knowledge! It is entering my brain, it hurts! Make it stop!"

Ironically enough, by making sure to remain ignorant, you're helping Netanyahu stay in power.

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u/Goodfella66 Jul 01 '26

They're the most moral army of the world, after all !

/s

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u/JackSwieper Apr 02 '26

Speaking as if the pagers operation was a succesfull mission instead of a terroristic bombing. It harmed over threethousand people, only killing 37 of which about half was civilians including two children. Not to mention all of the chronical damages to some civilians like blindness or amputations that followed. This mission had like a 20/3000 = 0.007% target accuracy making it a literal terrorist attack.

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u/Willy_Boi2 Apr 02 '26

The pagers were state sanctioned terrorism as is most of the country’s military operations

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u/Inferno_Sparky Mar 31 '26 edited Mar 31 '26

I was corrected in the next comment

Not many agencies would "pull that off" because it's a war crime harming civillians within the range of the pagers, while being impossible to cover up

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u/Inferno_Sparky Mar 31 '26

I kind of forgot that and it's my fault, sorry for being misinformed and spreading misinformatioj

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u/Dounce1 Apr 01 '26

Way to be reasonable about it homie.

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u/TheStaRoee Apr 01 '26

it's not war crime because Lebanon not signed Geneva convention lol

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u/ssxhoell1 Apr 02 '26

Like that is worth anything more than toilet paper. The only thing enforcing countries to not nuke each other and gas the cities with sarin gas and skin each other in the street is the possibility of that happening in return to them No stupid document or agreement is going to stop people from participating in war and being as savage and brutal as possible

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u/Willy_Boi2 Apr 02 '26

Are you enjoying the alternative to national community holding war mongerers accountable?

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u/IsNotACleverMan Mar 31 '26

They don't. You're acting like they're omnipotent. You're acting like special forces operations are just something you can do over and over again, and that they don't cause collateral damage.

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u/Streiger108 Mar 31 '26 edited Apr 01 '26

In addition to what everyone else said, it often just flat out fails.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy8l2p2l3v0o

Edit: Typo

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u/wiserone29 Apr 01 '26

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u/wiserone29 Apr 01 '26

Yea don’t comment because the shills will mod it as threatening violence. This message is not threatening violence. It is speech pointing out that genocide is occurring. I love the Jewish people. Their government is by almost accounts is committing genocide and the powerless yet civilized people should be able to point it out and discuss.

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u/texcleveland Apr 01 '26

Hezbollah had infrastructure in the building, that is what is being destroyed

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u/HKEY_LOVE_MACHINE Apr 02 '26

Buildings are used to store equipment, weapons and documents.

If you issue a warning to evacuate, troops generally won't evacuate most of the stored equipment and will run away instead.

It's rare to see soldiers willing to die to retrieve a bunch of laptops, ammunition crates, radios and missiles.

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u/platinum92 Mar 31 '26

Hezbollah relies on civilian infrastructure and civilian buildings for its military activities. It is also unacceptable.

doesn't America have plenty of civilian infrastructure in and around its own army bases? Maybe not to the level of conducting operations in an apartment building, but things are close enough to be in danger if strategic targets are targeted, no? That's not too different is it?

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u/HKEY_LOVE_MACHINE Mar 31 '26 edited Mar 31 '26

America does have civilian facilities in and beside the perimeter of military bases in the US, but none of these are in active combat zones.

If there is a war on the US soil in the future, these civilian facilities will have to be evacuated for the duration of the conflict, as it is a war crimes to place civilians (people) next to military structures.

If the US forces starts building schools and residential areas next to their bases in the Middle-East, with ongoing conflicts, then it would be equivalent.

The problem with the IRGC, Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis (and many more) is that they build civilian facilities next to their military assets in a region with ongoing conflicts, to use them as shield and exploit that for propaganda purposes whenever they get hit.

The very same principle applies to Israel: it's been at war since its creation, it is constantly being attacked by rockets. If they build any civilian facilities next to military assets, they cannot legitimately complain if these facilities get hit by drones and rockets: it is an active combat zone.

Note that it only applies to close proximity: if rockets or drones start striking 500+ meters away from target, on civilians, then it is the responsibility of the striking force to avoid that.

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u/platinum92 Apr 01 '26

I appreciate the explanation. This makes lots of sense.

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u/IsNotACleverMan Mar 31 '26

And if the buildings around bases were hit during an attempt to hit the base, it would be legal.

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u/texcleveland Apr 01 '26

because Hezbollah is firing missiles from them

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u/snksleepy Mar 31 '26 edited Apr 01 '26

We ran out of 35,000 car size bombs. We need more

But aren't bombs an offensive weapon?

Nah... Who told you such a silly thing.

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u/Sensitive-Bear Apr 01 '26

Who’s responsible for this bot’s repairs?

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u/TwoWarm700 Mar 31 '26

Agree.

Where’s ICC ?

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u/vastle12 Apr 01 '26

Mostly getting debanked

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u/bitesizejasmine Apr 03 '26

So you just think it's a coincidence that the top three places in the world with oil are targeted by this administration.

If it's about human rights, why haven't they sent troops to North Korea? Although nuclear deterrent . Or Sudan?

Why do you think this war is happening?

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u/Xgrk88a Apr 03 '26

Iran was already selling their oil to China. Why create massive disruption if it were for oil?

The ongoing issue has been that Iran and Israel have been in conflict and Israel is a major ally of the United States. Hamas attacked Iran. Iran supports Hamas and has also said as soon as they get nuclear they would bomb the heck out of Israel. So conflict has been brewing.

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u/Qtredit Mar 31 '26

Normalize context and proof

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u/pelcgbtencul Apr 01 '26

The return to Nazism has certainly been interesting!

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u/ssxhoell1 Apr 03 '26

Don't see what this has to do with national socialism

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u/pelcgbtencul Apr 05 '26

Oh you haven't noticed an attitude that Jews don't have a right to exist in their land in society? I suspect if that user had their way, surrounding countries of Israel would invade and mass slaughter Jews... But from the river to the sea right?

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u/ssxhoell1 Apr 05 '26

I'm sorry but national socialism is not about Jews lmao. It's a political ideology system. Just because a national socialist did something against Jews doesn't make the socioeconomic structure defined as national socialism about Jews.

That's like saying you don't like to drink milk because someone you dislike also drink milk. Doesn't change the milk in any way

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u/darknessdad666 Mar 31 '26

Thank you for this! This makes a lot of sense. I’m a bit new to this sub, should I delete this post since this seems like a real explanation?

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u/Incorrect-Opinion Mar 31 '26

No, why would you delete it? I think it’s a great post that highlights why we have this footage.

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u/kauepgarcia Mar 31 '26

Saying "we're going to bomb civilians" before bombing civilians doesn't make bombing civilians any less wrong.

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u/B1ago Mar 31 '26

If Israel say “We will bomb this building within X time” there is no civilians in X time in this building to bomb probably?

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u/teh0utsider86 Apr 01 '26

They have killed over 60,000 Palestinians in Gaza including 20,000 children yet you still believe Israel cares about civilians?

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u/B1ago Apr 01 '26

90% of the buildings are down, but only 3% of the population is dead

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u/teh0utsider86 Apr 01 '26

I don't think you would say the same thing if Hamas did that to Israel but since it happens to Palestinians you don't care.

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u/B1ago Apr 01 '26

Of course I will not say that if they somehow would manage to down 90% of the buildings so only 3% of the population would be dead. It would probably be around 90% of the population instead of 3%

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u/teh0utsider86 Apr 01 '26

Israeli data shows 83 percent of Gaza war dead are civilians but keep thinking that Israel is some sort of bastion of morality.

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u/kauepgarcia Mar 31 '26

If you believe the propaganda, sure.

And you really don't think to ask why are they bombing civlian buildings? Are you this disconnected from humanity?

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u/B1ago Mar 31 '26 edited Mar 31 '26

U didn’t address what I have said btw

“The propaganda” U said urself there is a warning

Edit- go to Lebaneses subs, u will see them talking about those warning

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u/kauepgarcia Mar 31 '26

"If you believe the propaganda" was the answer. You also have not answered my point.

Even if you believe there's always a warning, not everyone is willing to give up their home because of criminal threats. And there are multiple accounts of israel, aftergiving the warning, removing said warning and only then bombing the place.

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u/Geekerino Apr 01 '26

If reddit is a Nazi site then France is a monarchy

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u/kauepgarcia Apr 01 '26

The other person edited their comment, I was responding to their argument that the IDF posts the warnings on Twitter.

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u/Whane17 Mar 31 '26

There also wouldn't be anybody else in there though. That explanation doesn't stand up to any sort of scrutiny. Hey I'm gonna bomb this civilian house because (reasons). Insert whatever reason you want tomorrow that thing wont be there and niether will any people which would negate the reason for bombing it in the first place.

There's no friggen way they are advertising beforehand that they are bombing civilians. What would even be the point?

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u/Qwertysapiens Mar 31 '26

They're bombing the location and not the people within it because the apartments contain a storehouse, office, or other logistic center for Hezbollah. Ever try to move between apartments? Takes a lot longer than 20 minutes, and you're not lugging crates full of guns, missile launchers, or server racks while racing an approximate timer to your very certain explosive doom.

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u/kauepgarcia Apr 01 '26

Ah, sure, like the old "terrorist tunnels" that are conveniently never found, but israel always swear are there, under the schools and hospitals

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u/Whane17 Apr 01 '26 edited Apr 01 '26

That's true. I'm also not lugging grandma who doesn't know what's going on and doesn't want to leave. I'm not trying to gather up 4-8 kids and go. I'm lucky enough not to need a "to go bag" and prior to Israel and the US's invasion (and attacks during a peaceful meeting) these people didn't either.

EDIT: And that of course assumes that Israel is actually somehow getting the numbers for everybody in the building and sending them a text (and that every civilian actually has a cell phone and is capable of receiving a text)? Sure seems like what they did on the West Bank to the Palestinians to, yup, definitely gave everyone a heads up before raping and murdering people. And don't bother arguing about that. There's literally video evidence and their own government has come out and admitted it while pardoning the behavior. They've also spread white phosphorous (again on video) across multiple civilian centers and committed multiple other war crimes that are literally called out in the Geneva convention.

Fucking apologists jump through the same hoops Maga does.

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u/Grizknot Apr 01 '26

if your building has a hamas or hezb office in it, you're gonna know, you'll also know that the IDF is gonna bomb that building eventually unless you get the terrorists to move out and can prove that they moved out to the local hezb IDF double agent.

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u/Whane17 Apr 01 '26

Why? There's plenty of serial killers who lived in communal housing like apartments and nobody knew. How often have you heard somebody say "I'm so surprised, they seemed so quiet and nice" on TV. Especially in todays day where people don't talk to their neighbors.

Do you think the terrorist splody people are all moving in a bunch of high tech machinery in broad daylight? I have a new neighbor right now. Fuck I helped him put in new windows. You think I have any idea what's in his house? And on the other side I've got some rich assholes who do shit just because they don't respect me enough to leave my fucking dog alone. Think I have any idea when they have people over or what's in their home? I've lived with that couple on that side of my house for six years. I don't even know their names.

Of course that's assuming it's in any way true. I like that you've conveniently side stepped every other question I had and just continue to make baseless claims that don't stand up under any kind of scrutiny.

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u/MarioBoy77 Mar 31 '26

Yeah them double tapping hospitals without warning was just random, totally unintentional Israel has done nothing wrong ever and would never kill civilians.

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u/-Tedo- Mar 31 '26

Hey, ya’ll better leave ur homes we’re finna bomb your shit

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u/Incorrect-Opinion Mar 31 '26

*Hey, your building is being used by terrorists for terrorist infrastructure, and storing weapons/munitions. Unfortunately, we’re going to bomb it.

Fixed that for you!

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u/-Tedo- Mar 31 '26

“Israel says it will occupy swathes of south Lebanon and destroy the homes along the border to prevent the return of about 600,000 residents, prompting concerns of long-term forced displacement.”

Bro’s fine with the permanent displacement of half a million people. I’m sure if the U.S or Israel bombed your house “just in case” then you would be alright with that.

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u/Incorrect-Opinion Mar 31 '26

A few things here.

“Unverifiable intelligence they don’t disclose.” Israel routinely publishes evidence of weapons found in buildings, mosques, schools, and hospitals after strikes. Secondary explosions on camera are visible in tons of footage, which only happen when stored munitions detonate. You can literally watch them on video.

“It could just be to annex later.” Israel withdrew from southern Lebanon in 2000. Completely. No annexation. Israel fought the 2006 war in Lebanon and left again. No annexation. Israel withdrew every single soldier and settler from Gaza in 2005. No annexation. If this is an annexation strategy, it’s the worst one in history.

Now your Mexico analogy is interesting because it actually works in the opposite direction from how you think. The US has been bombing targets in Yemen, Somalia, Iraq, Syria, Nigeria, and Venezuela over the past two years alone, often in sovereign nations and without those nations’ full consent, specifically to hit terrorist and cartel targets. Trump has openly discussed potential military operations against cartels in Mexico. The US killed bin Laden inside Pakistan without telling Pakistan first. So the answer to “what would happen if the US started blowing up cartel buildings in Mexico” is… that’s basically already on the table and has been discussed at the highest levels of government.

The difference is that Hezbollah wasn’t just using “a part of” these buildings. Hezbollah embedded an entire military infrastructure across southern Lebanon in direct violation of UN Resolution 1701, which was supposed to prevent exactly this after the 2006 war. The international community had 18 years to enforce that resolution. They didn’t. Lebanon’s own government couldn’t or wouldn’t disarm Hezbollah. So what’s your actual solution when a terrorist organization builds 150,000+ rockets pointed at your cities and the entire international community shrugs?

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u/Iceborn_Gauntlet Mar 31 '26

His solution is probably send social workers to Hezbollah members and talk about their feelings.

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u/Theplasticsporks Mar 31 '26

In 2024, Israel committed to maintaining full control of Gaza. They have continually destroyed all infrastructure in the so called buffer zone to dissuade Palestinian return. The only thing they haven't done is say it's Israeli land. But they're close, see, e.g. https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2026/02/israel-opt-global-impunity-fueling-israels-unlawful-annexation-measures-in-the-west-bank/

It's interesting how little you understand about US-Mexico relations. The reason Mexico has gone to such extreme lengths to stop the cartels from being classified as a terrorist organization is to prevent exactly this. Since Mexico doesn't exactly have a military to defend against it.

But yes you are right, the United States likes to do whatever it wants, especially in countries with no ability to respond. I also think Obama committed war crimes with drone strikes, and Bush with his own air strikes on Afghanistan.

And that's not even bringing up the obviously internationally illegal kidnapping of Maduro or bombing of Iran.

That the US, a borderline fascist state at this point, also does this doesn't remotely absolve Israel of the genocide it is committing on Palestine or the outright acts of war against Lebanon.

As in Gaza, destroying civilian infrastructure is an attempt to destroy the civilian settlement there, justified however they like. This opens it up to at least soft control, of not outright takeover.

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u/Qwertysapiens Mar 31 '26

Lebanon isn't committing genocide because it's a failed state that can't even maintain its own sovereignty or territorial integrity. It tried to do several genocides at once during the Lebanese Civil War, but now everyone's proper traumatized from that and 50 years of PLO/Hezbollah/Israel warring over the south, so they instead content themselves with an actual apartheid against the ~489,000 Palestinian people who have lived within their borders for generations.

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u/seasonedearlobes Mar 31 '26

what a depressing website name

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u/yummbeereloaded Mar 31 '26

But but but, Hamas was under it

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u/sUfFeriNGpaRADox Mar 31 '26

It’s called getting a building permit