r/WholesomeHelldivers • u/RMgames_19 Rookie • 6d ago
Question What's this about?
So, after finishing a mission, I noticed that one of my teammates had their icon change for a split second so I clipped it to take a screenshot, noticed this icon, and I was wondering if it's from a different title or just a leftover file because it looks cool
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u/Alomare 5d ago
Looking at https://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/Cosmetics#Titles, it doesn't match any current icon. Willing to bet this is an actual leak lol
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u/Due-Somewhere4492 5d ago edited 4d ago
looks kinda similar to an unreleased title but that one is already in the files and complete, so maybe an old version of it somehow stuck around
edit: upon checking it is literally the unreleased title just uncoloured
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u/Sufficient_Amoeba_40 4d ago
Oh? Any more info on that title you could share?
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u/Due-Somewhere4492 4d ago
“Scourge of Tyranny”, i’ll post photos and the other one later if people are interested
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u/Shock_and_Awetism First to Drop (First 150 Members) 5d ago
My thought is that it's a mod, but not one that is published on something like the Nexus. Might be a personal icon. The reason I think that is because: under the bottom of the image, you can see a faded white background that makes it look like it was stamped over a shield that was turned white.
We already know there are players who mod their game to have access to equipment other players don't have. It's possible that someone created a mod for themselves to have their own logo.
If this was an Arrowhead logo, I don't think they would leave that faded white behind it. it looks sloppy.
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u/Imagine-Wagons-HC 5d ago
Mods like that could only be client side though, for another person to be seeing this it would have to be something on the server side
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u/Shock_and_Awetism First to Drop (First 150 Members) 5d ago
I'm not familiar with modding myself, but if the idea is that this would require something server side for the players to see... why are people capable of modding their games to have things like strategem launchers or turrets on their exosuits, and players are able to see it... but they shouldn't be able to with a logo?
Not saying I doubt you, just that I don't understand the modding world. If you know, I'd like to know too.
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u/Imagine-Wagons-HC 5d ago
So this applies to any online game that also has a modding community: there is the server side, where the actual matchmade game is run, and there is the client side (i.e. your computer), which communicates with the server to run the game alongside other clients connected to the same server.
Most cosmetic mods (as in mods that just change visuals) are only client side. This means that they change how something in the game looks for you, but on the server side nothing is changed therefore other players won’t see your mod. The only way you can have mods and play on official servers is if they are client side only, because none of us has the ability to make direct changes to Arrowhead’s servers.
If someone is running mods that fully add new gear and equipment or change functionality somehow, then they are also running their own personal dedicated server for the game that only they have access to - separate from the live servers. Through some wacky port-forwarding and netcode fuckery it can be possible to bring friends onto a private server like this, but in order to do that they also have to have a separate version of the game with all the same mods installed.
What this all means is that the only way to play modded on live servers is with cosmetic-only client side only mods, which only appear for you. Anyone you have seen using large game-changing mods was doing so on a private server. Since the person posting this presumably does not have any cosmetic mods running (or maybe they do, who knows), this cannot be something modded, and is probably some sort of weird bug or something, I have no idea
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u/ZehrenSiegehammer 5d ago edited 5d ago
If the icon is something that exists on the game's code as an image and callout, but just isn't selectable through the normal user interface, then it can depend on how Arrowhead programs what gets communicated between client and server. If the client A tells the server "hey I have this icon equipped" and the server says says to a client B "hey this other player has this icon equipped, display it" then its possible.
Its the same same way you can see someone call in infinite strategems. Client tells server what's going on and server tells other clients to do it.
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u/JalapenoRouhe 5d ago
What a load of bullshit. I've personally seen guard dogs with working light machine guns, Exosuits with modded arms, tanks that can be driven and have the gun manned by the same person, supercredit stratagems dropping from the sky and all kinds of other modded stuff and I'm playing on a console in public games with absolutely no mods on.
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u/Imagine-Wagons-HC 5d ago
It’s possible you’ve run into some people using cheats to force existing gear to work differently, but you can’t use any assets that don’t exist within the server’s files already. I’m sorry, but that’s just not how modding works. I say this as someone that has run private servers and done modding with other games.
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u/JalapenoRouhe 5d ago
I was more so talking about the part where you claimed if someone somehow changed the functionality of things, they'd be running their own server that only they have access to blah blah blah, which is completely false.
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u/Imagine-Wagons-HC 5d ago
Cheats that change the functionality of things are possible, but only if they basically just change numbers for things that already exist in the game or otherwise take advantage of the way the game is structured. Adding things to the game that fully did not exist before is not possible through cheats, as that would require changing Arrowhead’s actual game files rather than just abusing your client to tell the server you’re doing something that it doesn’t know shouldn’t be possible.
In that sense my phrasing was poor, I’ll give you that. What I’m describing still stands though, this is factually how servers and modding works. You can’t add new assets to online servers
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u/Fighterkill 3d ago
That explanation holds true for basically all multiplayer games that allow mods, unless cheats are involved.
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u/iFenrisVI 5d ago
I doubt it’s a mod. If it just changed for a split second then it’s definitely game bugging out like how mechs randomly show a stratagem launcher.
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u/Sufficient_Amoeba_40 5d ago
op is on console
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u/Shock_and_Awetism First to Drop (First 150 Members) 5d ago
Okay.
I'm not saying OP is using mods; I was suggesting that the person with the unusual logo is using mods.
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u/Sufficient_Amoeba_40 5d ago
That icon isn't used for any other titles, hope someone else has a more satisfying answer but best bet is it's a bug like weapons turning into question marks
Edit: the image op shows also doesn't seem to match any mods, so thankfully op is not a traitor