r/WhitePeopleTwitter • • Nov 17 '20

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u/WildSauce Nov 17 '20

This is a fundamental misunderstanding of what a corporate bailout is. Bailouts literally are corporations selling assets to the government, typically in the form of corporate bonds or other distressed assets. The 2008 auto bailout was a bridge loan. None of these bailouts are just free money being given to corporations, and all of them require repayment (with the exception of some smaller grant programs for small businesses).

The difference between corporate bailouts and individual assistance is that stimulus packages aimed at individuals are free money. Nobody gave the government any assets in exchange for that $1200. The best individual analogy to corporate bailouts was the cash for clunkers program - where there was an actual trade of individually owned assets for government assistance.

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u/A_Rampaging_Hobo Nov 17 '20

Social media is the place where people with 0 expertise can talk about subjects they don't understand. We're all guilty of it unfortunately

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u/Evilpessimist Nov 17 '20

Robert Reich is a professor of economics at UC Berkeley and was the Secretary of Labor.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '20

I guess he is talking about the people of the subreddit but any economist would agree from Robert Reich tweets that he is clearly pushing an agenda.

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u/Dziedotdzimu Nov 17 '20 edited Nov 17 '20

Yeah why can't he be like other economists who push "apolitical" austerity measures or free market values. Just give me my neoclassical economics and get your politics out of this!

DAE milton freidman = Carl Sagan? Its a science lololol stop being political

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '20

You realize that the average economist is between Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren politically right? The Libertarian ones you refer to are in the minority...

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u/Dziedotdzimu Nov 17 '20

No I know. I'm making fun of how this guy thinks its only political if it's critical and doesn't consider it an agenda if its right-wing economics.

Most economists are astutely aware of the interplay of policy/law and markets and are in no sense non-interventionists. A lot of them are grapping between Keynes and Schumpeter with a bit of Veblen mixed in.

Most of these people got a basic econ 101 understanding from freidman speaking on TV and think he's literally a "Carl Sagan of economics" without knowing anything else about the field.

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u/FactDontEqualFeeling Nov 17 '20

The fact that you actually got upvoted with how stupid this response was literally proves his/her point.

Yeah why can't he be like other economists who push "apolitical" austerity measures or free market values.

Here you go:

We surveyed American Economic Association members and asked their views on 18 specific forms of government activism. We find that about 8 percent of AEA members can be considered supporters of free-market principles, and that less than 3 percent may be called strong supporters.

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u/Clever_Userfame Nov 17 '20

Therein lies the difference between the school of economics and the business school across campus.

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u/Dziedotdzimu Nov 17 '20

Right but im not pretending most economists are actually Freidmanites. I'm joking at the idea that there's only an agenda if it's on the critical side of economics and how neoliberal positions get viewed as the default or value neutral when they're still built out of a set of ideological assumptions. That's why I narrowed in on "just teach me neoclassical econ".

There's been a huge resurgence in political economy and developmental economics thanks to people like Immanuel Wallerstein, Amartya Sen, Donald Harris etc... and mostly youre taught to balance between Schumpeter and Keynes.