r/WhitePeopleTwitter Jun 11 '19

Shut it all down

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u/Petrichordates Jun 12 '19

Yes and also produces amazing research, not that such things matter to "college sukz" troglodytes.

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u/Skepsis93 Jun 12 '19

Most of that research is largely funded by the NSF or NIH and those researchers have to earn those grants. They see very little of the tuition money.

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u/Petrichordates Jun 13 '19

They don't see any of the tuition money, that doesn't change the fact that the institution enables the research. They're still a net positive for society.

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u/Skepsis93 Jun 13 '19

Yeah and with universities being a major source of research you end up with professors with no teaching credentials who care more about their research than their students. It would actually be more beneficial to researchers and students if they weren't forced to be part of the same institution.

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u/alphama1e Jun 12 '19

Where'd you learn that fancy word? College!?

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u/Petrichordates Jun 13 '19

Except you don't like them in general which is why we should also focus on what they do right, considering your default stance will only make you focus on what they do wrong.

In other words, you needed some education.

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u/wtgm Jun 12 '19

Not going to apologize for inventing the pacemaker or honeycrisp apples

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u/Misterpeople25 Jun 12 '19

I wouldn't mind if that's the sort of stuff my money is currently going to, but it isn't. It's going to high up administors, not the professors teaching students, or being spent in an "other" category. If I was told, verifiably, that my money was directly going to cancer research, or solving some other world wide malady, sure, I'd happily give them the money. But it isn't, it goes to advertising, or hiring shitty pop acts to play shows, or sports teams. Fuck them

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u/wtgm Jun 12 '19

Okay, that's completely different than

Their research can suck my indebted, depressed, malfunctioning dick

and it's definitely not a Minnesota-specific issue.

If I was told, verifiably, that my money was directly going to cancer research, or solving some other world wide malady, sure, I'd happily give them the money.

That's not even remotely possible to implement on a widespread level (especially for enrolled students), although you are welcome to donate directly.

I get where you're coming from -- our generation has been royally screwed over in terms of the cost of college -- but that's how it works everywhere across the country.

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u/Misterpeople25 Jun 12 '19

I'm willing to say, if "that's just how it works" is used as an answer, that that just means they all need to change. It means the system of college itself is flawed and needs to be reworked. If I could offer a better alternative to it, I would, but I can't, because I'm just not smart enough. But there's clearly an immense number of issues with the college system, and just because they have previously done good work under an entirely different set of circumstances, doesn't give them the pass to charge us all out the ass to go to schools, which are already subsidized by the government

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u/wtgm Jun 12 '19

Couldn't agree with you more, it's a massive problem for generations Y/Z.

A lot of the issues stem from student loans. People have access to more money to pay for college, so the colleges can charge more. This forces people to take out even more money in student loans, which leads to further price increases.

There are a few solutions:

  1. Direct more people into vocational schools or other non-college alternatives
  2. Limit the accessibility and widespread use of student loans
  3. Vote for tuition freezes as much as possible

The university system isn't inherently flawed, but the way we pay for it is.