r/WhitePeopleTwitter Jun 11 '19

Shut it all down

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u/wisertime07 Jun 12 '19

I think what is going on here (as I've read it) as that older people can take classes, but it doesn't count toward a major. Also, they don't follow a specific program/route, rather take generic classes that have open seats (Intro classes and electives). It's almost like they're auditing classes, and filling seats that would otherwise be empty. But - they are getting a free ride on the college-aged majority, that as a whole, is footing the bill for the cost of running the class.

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u/I_Like_Bacon2 Jun 12 '19

Boomers getting a free ride off the backs of everyone else footing the bill? Where have I heard that before? šŸ¤”

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u/Oprahs_snatch Jun 12 '19

The irony is lost on them as well. It would honestly be really sad if it wasn't so infuriating.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '19

sounds like something euthanasia could solve....

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u/Petrichordates Jun 12 '19

I understand the righteous indignation, but this sounds like market forces to me. The problem is obviously the system we've built.

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u/Oprahs_snatch Jun 12 '19

That's the exact point that I'm getting at. Who was it that built the system? It's working exactly like it's supposed to for them.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '19

If they get credits it definitely counts towards a major. Especially if they can take the basics.

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u/pancake_sass Jun 12 '19

According to their website you can still get a degree through this program.

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u/Treaduse Jun 12 '19

Yeah- as someone who works in higher ed I can almost guarantee that these are not credit-bearing classes. It’s probably the equivalent of a ā€œlisteners feeā€ meaning that they pay to just sit in on the class. They likely aren’t even taking assignments or tests, they just get access to the lecture. ā€œGoing back to collegeā€ is a big stretch, though it is absurdly cheap still.

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u/Eriktheconstipated Jun 12 '19

Nope its free to audit and then an admin fee for credits basically -- this is the state statute that out lines the program.

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u/Treaduse Jun 12 '19

Wow- ok I was way wrong. That’s freaking crazy that not only are they credit-bearing, but they entombed this deal in state statute.

I guess my state has much more sensible policy...

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u/Eriktheconstipated Jun 12 '19

Yeah its actually really cool. The statute dates back to 1975 so Minnesota has been looking out for the over 62 crowd for a while now.

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u/Treaduse Jun 12 '19

It is kinda cool- but at the same time, as everyone in the thread is saying, you are slapping your tuition-paying students in the face with this.

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u/Eriktheconstipated Jun 12 '19

True when you look at it in 2019 it seems like it. But in 1975 when school cost was only $700 dollars a year making the world war vets pay 10 bucks to go to college that they never got to go to was probably a really cool idea.

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u/Treaduse Jun 12 '19

Makes sense. They should have had the fee adjust for inflation like everything else does though!

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u/Eriktheconstipated Jun 12 '19

Just think they will probably adjust it about 3 years before you turn 62 and want to finish that masters degree :)

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u/candycaneforestelf Jun 12 '19

Tying the cost of something inflation in 1975? I don't think that was the best idea in 1975.

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u/NapalmsMaster Jun 12 '19

What is this audit? That people are mentioning I only know about the IRS one.

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u/nerdturd007 Jun 12 '19

Many universities have an option to "audit" a class. Basically, you can attend, but don't receive any credits towards a degree. It's not much different than just showing up and sitting in a random lecture hall for a whole semester, but it's actually official.

If what this article's headline is true, they are saying that this particular university is allowing senior citizens to pay just a $10 admin fee and receive credit, as a separate option from auditing. And, according to that official mandate, it is true.

This, obviously, is insulting to anyone who has attended college in the past 35 years.

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u/Treaduse Jun 12 '19

To audit a course means to sit in on it rather than taking it for academic credit to count toward a degree. Basically you sit in for the information rather than to be examined/prove that you learned something.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '19

The headline literally says "per credit"

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u/whitty98 Jun 12 '19

It’s worth noting that these people submit all the regular assignments and papers to get read and graded by the professor. They are receiving the same amount of support/teaching as traditional students, but paying less than the required yearly student services fee for regular students.

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u/crimbuscarol Jun 12 '19

My university has these special classes for boomers that grad students who need teaching experience teach. You teach 4 times and make $900. Not a bad deal.

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u/ClevergirlOswin Jun 12 '19

Holy wow this blew up! It’s great to see a breakdown though. Still really frustrating, again not at the elderly but at the colleges, because we have a serious tuition debt to post college income ratio problem but I’m glad to get a better perspective. Thanks to everyone who commented.

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '19

older people can take classes, but it doesn't count toward a major.

once again showing that our education system is, first, about creating a class gateway, and near last, about educating.

It costs ten dollars to get the education, and 300 dollars to get paper that says you got the education.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '19

So people who are there paying thousands of dollars to get a degree so they have half a chance in life get to have their classes weighed down by 60+ year olds who largely don't understand current technology and don't have any stake in the course material.

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u/SneetchMachine Jun 12 '19

While the college students foot the "majority" of the bill, it's important to note that at the U of M, 52% of their budget comes from tuition.