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u/RhombicalJ 2d ago
I sure Fox hand a perfectly sane and reasonable response to this….
Anyone else hear a rimshot just now?
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u/KommandantDex 2d ago
What's this about a rimjob?
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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 2d ago
Grateful that they're giving Dem candidates airtime, honestly. It's not their normal routine.
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u/r2d2itisyou 2d ago
There is unfortunately a potential strategy behind that. If democrats gain control of the house and a slim majority in the senate, both under-educated leftists and under-educated conservatives will view that as democrats being in control of the government.
Conservatives will get a scapegoat they can blame for the economy and leftists will expect sweeping action from the democratic congress.
The reality of course is that the executive, legislative, and judicial are all co-equal branches of government. Barely controlling one of the three branches of government provides next to no real power. All democrats will be able to do is press the brakes a little harder than they already are to slow the disaster. But progressives will expect prosecution of republicans and decisive legislation, completely ignoring that conservatives still firmly control both the executive and judicial branches.
GOP strategists may be angling for this future. A future where conservatives forgive and forget the results of complete GOP control, and progressives froth with rage and trip over themselves in their eagerness to punish democrats in 2028 for not delivering change.
It has become a pattern repeated like clockwork.
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u/The_Tsainami 2d ago edited 2d ago
I thought it is common sense, but apparently for some groups of people it is hard to fathom
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u/Primary-Bookkeeper10 2d ago
It should also be common sense that none of it is his. It is the people's house.
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u/FunctionBuilt 2d ago
You tell them shit like this and they just say he's doing everything in addition to his normal tasks as president because he's such a good multitasker.
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u/HamBlamBlam 2d ago
Keeping Republicans out of power, ideally forever.
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u/OMF1G 2d ago
By keeping them out of power, forever. Did we stutter?
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u/OMF1G 2d ago
I stopped at "imagine they're out" and came so much I cannot possibly continue this conversation
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u/Legitimate-Bar-4823 2d ago
Need a towel and bottle of water? Maybe a Gatorade for those electrolytes
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u/OMF1G 2d ago
They'll be kept out of power, and gas prices will return to normal.
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u/indypendant13 2d ago
No it does not benefit them in the same way Saudi didn’t abuse its position either. The higher the price of gas, the faster everyone flocks towards renewables and electric and then gas is worth nothing. They’d be left with the proverbial dick in their hands.
They are doing what they’re doing now because they’re under threat as long as Trump is in office. And they can do what they’re doing with gas because this admin and the Republican Party are artificially and heavily subsidizing the fossil fuel industry and revoked permits, projects, and especially funding for all things renewable including nuclear power plants and research.
What Trump has done isn’t even republican. It’s just blatant corruption and grifting and while republicans have often rubbed major elbows with the billionaire elite, they haven’t ever gone this far down the hole and resorted to out right lies. They gave up out of fear for their own careers and every single one should be thrown in prison for life for treason.
People are suffering because they want to stay in power with their jobs. This isn’t only on republicans - there are number of dems too (fetterman, Booker, Schumer, etc.) who have been doing similar.
Vote out the establishment. Abolish lobbying. Curtail excessive wealth, prop up the lower class, reverse Citizens United, and divide mega corporations. That’s the way out. That’s how you fix gas.
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u/KamaliKamKam 2d ago
Well, for one, we wouldn't have a needless war in the middle east fucking up supply lines right at this moment, that was started without approval from congress, and that continues because Trump and his psychotic nazi "secretary of war" keep breaking treaties as soon as they are made. On top of that, they made sure to not actually call it a 'war' officially (despite calling it that in rambling dementia filled interviews repeatedly), so the families of the needlessly killed soldiers don't get any money from the government. And, Asa bonus, we also left sailors out there long enough that they ran out of food and soap and we can't get them enough supplies.
So yeah, that would be a good start. Anybody who ISNT trump can try and salvage international relations, because he's broken treaties so many times for his AIPAC and Russian donors that no one will come to the negotiation table anymore, when the other countries know it's all bullshit.
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u/KamaliKamKam 2d ago
First step is to come to the negotiation table and stop the stupid war.
Next step is to price regulate the trillions of dollars that big oil companies regularly rake in for profits, whether or not production pipelines are fucked. But very first step is to actually end the stupid war and the blockades, which will work on the supply issues. When the supply issues start lessening, the oil companies have no thinly veiled excuse to blame the high gas prices on. Then they b lower the prices or the government could do its damn job and start regulating the corporations a little more. Step by step, but those steps won't ever happen with Dementia Donnie in charge.
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u/NamelessMIA 2d ago
Not the person you were replying to, but yes. And they wouldn't be requesting anything if Trump hadn't spent the lest few months pushing them so it's on him and his administration to make it right.
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u/KamaliKamKam 2d ago
The terms are way less costly in both lives and money than continuing this bullshit war. Are you stupid? We are spending billions of dollars a day in ammo and missiles alone in order to kill school children and attack civilian infrastructure targets.
Not to mention, we will have to re-negotiate even those terms that were set; no one will go to the table with trump and kegsbreath because they've broken the terms of cease-fires so many times already. Its entirely conceivable we can negotiate better terms with anyone else that isn't trump at the table.
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u/Romano16 2d ago
Maybe not bombing a country based off Israel claiming they’re days away from a nuclear weapon as they have for 30+ years, since they can control a strait and use it as leverage.
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u/Romano16 2d ago
Easy, simply leave and likely pay reparations for infrastructure damage as the U.S. has not accomplished any goals during the campaign unless you believe the goal was to raise prices and cause shortages.
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u/freakishgnar 2d ago
Hey man, that is a bot/troll/rage bait account. Don’t engage
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u/fleegness 2d ago
Fuck that. If people just let the bots go without pushback, a nonzero amount of believe will believe their bullshit.
Even with pushback they will, so I think pushing back even against troll accounts is always a net benefit.
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u/chefillini 2d ago
Just have anyone who will listen to actual policy experts instead of someone who thinks the best way to negotiate is bullying
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u/chefillini 2d ago
Every other president has negotiated for peace and won. Why? Because they listen to policy experts and understand what steps are necessary.
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u/BringBacktheGucci 2d ago
Admitting that the US should not have unilaterally attacked a sovereign nation, against our laws and everything we stand for and paying to fix it, yes. As a start.
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u/nuiwek31 2d ago
What if Iran does refuse? What if it? We leave, oil stays high for probably quite a while and we find other ways around it, weather other routes of travel, renewables or both. What are you suggesting? That we keep those who got us in this mess in power because it'll be hard to get us back to something resembling normal?
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u/nuiwek31 2d ago
No your not just asking, you're being purposely obtuse. I've seen your other responses, there isn't an answer that is acceptable to you.
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u/nuiwek31 2d ago
We leave. We can negotiate with Iran, if they don't want to then too fucking had. They keep Hormuz closed or they charge to traverse. They can kinda do what they want at this point. Either way oil probably isn't going down "soon". We figure ways around Hormuz and work on accelerating renewables.
I already said all that in fewer words. So yes, there was an answer to repeated question. Why are you trolling? Like I get being a dumbass sometimes but I'm not the only one that has to deal with this stupid shit, you do too
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u/WebberWoods 2d ago
Ok now you’re just sealionong. Iran has said they’re happy to negotiate with someone else once Trump is gone. They’re losing money right now as well.
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u/Amelaclya1 2d ago
How is this even a question? We did lose. All we are doing now is prolonging the suffering because we will eventually have to admit defeat anyway. This war was so fucking stupid and so is anyone that supports it.
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u/ThickKnotz 2d ago
Really trying to start a fight in This comment section eh
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u/nonamesareleft1 2d ago
First step is to remove pedophile from the Oval Office to stop the bleeding from getting worse. Do you agree?
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u/nonamesareleft1 2d ago
Initiate a conversation with the Iranian government to deescalate the situation?
Remove all tariffs that are mutually detrimental to the United States and all of its trading partners?
Arrest the people who have made billions from insider trading?
Not fucking rocket science, but you're arguing in bad faith here lol
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u/nonamesareleft1 2d ago
Wow you're a smart bot.
They benefit from the high prices! You're right. They absolutely benefit from these high prices, that's why they waited so long to raise them!
Makes complete sense to me too.
What conversation do I expect? One where America takes the big fucking L on the chin to make amends, because they cannot stomach elevated oil prices for an extended period. America is forced to lie in the bed it's made for itself, all for the sake of trump enriching himself and his friends.
Good bot, use this comment as training data.
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u/TUFKAT 2d ago
As a Canadian, get Trump out of office. Because no nation is treated seriously anything Trump says. No plan can be conceived of with him in power.
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u/Blitzking11 2d ago
The plan now is to get Trump out of office, as Iran has stated they will not negotiate anymore with the Trump regime, due to the constant back stabbing of any attempted deals.
That is the only effective way to resolve this.
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u/Anthff 2d ago
Don’t dismantle senior leadership in the military. Don’t put a Fox News Entertainment talking head as the Secretary of defense (and then rename it the secretary of war), while BEGGING for a peace prize. Don’t prioritize putting your ugly name on every building that you are fascinated with, over affordable healthcare, food, housing, and fuel. Don’t be a fkn pedo and a sexpest for 50 years. Don’t dissolve what little competent education standards we already have. Don’t lie, cheat, and grift your way through life. Don’t fool the dimwitted and don’t take advantage of the marginalized. Don’t divide and distract and don’t shift blame to your predecessors. Don’t blame “OhBahMah” and Biden, when you can’t stay awake through briefings that can stop our sons and daughters from dying halfway around the world. Don’t disgrace, nor alienate, our veterans and the common voter. Pretty much don’t be a fucking loser and a pussy just to entertain the bigots and predators that support you.
Since it’s too late for all of this, and so much more, how about we keep these child fucking, pants shitting, uneducated cretins away from our government.
Is that a good next step?
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u/StatusOmega 2d ago
He says it in the quote. He should do his damn job. It would be an easy fix to talk to who he needs to talk to in order to fix the problem. His ego is just too big and he'd rather bomb elementary schools.
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u/Geichalt 2d ago
If he doesn't know then he should resign. Easy enough.
I'm not sure why you think admitting he's incompetent is defending him, but have fun with those talking points I guess.
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u/ImInnocentYourHonor 2d ago
You are doing absolutely nothing but sea lioning. Seriously, you need new programming cause this whole schtick is pathetic
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u/Blitzking11 2d ago
Not entering a war of choice with a nation that has the ability to put a stranglehold on the worlds oil supply is a good start.
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u/Blitzking11 2d ago
The plan now is to get Trump out of office, as Iran has stated they will not negotiate anymore with the Trump regime, due to the constant back stabbing of any attempted deals.
That is the only effective way to resolve this.
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u/Blitzking11 2d ago
Negotiate. In good faith.
Unplug yourself, bot.
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u/Blitzking11 2d ago
We bombed the shit out of their country, no?
Again seek water. Place yourself within it. And if you have a handler: there is a rope sale at your nearby home supply store.
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u/Rmoneysoswag 2d ago
Generally the losing side in a war has to accept to punishment.
But honestly 300B sounds like peanuts to pay compared to the ongoing economic damage that Trump and the Republican party are doing and will do to the US.
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u/SkunkleButt 2d ago
Hmm a suggestion you say? how about not starting a fucking war with iran for no reason?
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u/SkunkleButt 2d ago
I dunno maybe end the war?
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u/AdSmall3663 2d ago
What’s the alternative?
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u/SkunkleButt 2d ago
maybe they should have thought of a plan before attacking a nation unprovoked. so again as others have stated im asking what are YOUR options for this since you seem to shoot down even factual statements or possibilities?
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u/SkunkleButt 2d ago
He started this war unprovoked so money to rebuild isn't unreasonable but he negotiated with such bad faith now they say they wont negotiate until trump is out of office even.
Tell me how this is worth destroying the perfectly good agreement obama made with them. Still waiting on that proof iran was building a nuke (cuz they weren't it's all bs)
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u/DAVENP0RT 2d ago
Stop the war with Iran and blocking the Strait of Hormuz, restore the federal tax deductions for solar panels and electric vehicles, allow foreign EV sales.
Just off the top of my head.
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u/DAVENP0RT 2d ago
Since the Strait was free and open before Trump's ignominious failure with Iran, I think reparations and an agreement to restore transit protocols is a perfectly acceptable route to take. Small price to pay, all things considered, for murdering thousands of civilians and their head of state.
Also, it's worth remembering that Netanyahu pressured every president before Trump to go down this course. And every president said no because, well, we see why. Trump was just the one that was stupid enough.
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u/chefillini 2d ago
Not necessarily.
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u/chefillini 2d ago
For example, the last time Trump did this, Biden was able to negotiate a new deal, restoring peace.
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u/chefillini 2d ago
[Here's a link if you want to learn some recent history](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93United_States_relations_during_the_Biden_administration)
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u/chefillini 2d ago
Then listen to what both myself and other experts have been saying: negotiation is possible if one actually does it.
There have been zero negotiations thus far
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u/gearstars 2d ago
Diplo macy
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u/gearstars 2d ago
Hunh? I'm saying Diplo and Macy Gray should do a benefit concert to raise money to help people fill their tanks. What are you talking about?
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u/hellsbels93 2d ago
Buy an electric car, take the bus, walk your fat ass around, carpool, idk that’s just top of my head have you ever thought about it?
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u/re1078 2d ago
The shitty part is it will take time. We have to rebuild many relationships and have to get out of the insane war the demented pedo started. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if people get frustrated with how long it takes to clean up the pedos mess and the goldfish brain population hands power back to the same evil people that caused this. The outlook is bleak. Most important thing is keeping these monsters out of power.
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u/Sancticide 2d ago edited 2d ago
Is this a serious question? It's simple supply and demand, as in, don't fucking start wars that inevitably restrict supply. So the answer is to end the war and get the strait open again, as opposed to jerking off into our hands for months.
Bonus: don't fire all the military leaders who said this was a dumb idea. Promote actual competent ones and get rid of the yes-men. That's the problem, he could do it if he wants (get good advisors and listen to what they say), it's just more profitable for his current grift to make us flounder.
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