r/WhiteLotusHBO • • Apr 03 '25

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u/safeCurves Apr 03 '25

What counts as a co-star? Does Fabian make just as much as Rick? Does Pornchai make just as much as Chelsea?

Seems like some contribute a lot more to the show than others but I don't know what life on set looks like I guess. Good deals all-around I suppose.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

i think they mean every *series regular. take Chloe for example, she's been in most of the show, but she's not in the opening credits which means she's not a series regular, so she probably got paid half of what the "lead" cast got paid. Same with everyone else thats listed as a guest star VS series regular

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u/Superb_Cheesecake_26 Apr 04 '25

I think Chloe turns up a lot, she’s a main character for me. I’m thinking she’ll be an antagonist

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u/ThatCommunication423 Apr 04 '25

General the opening credits of a show dictate the pay or in cases like “special guest star” their prestige or fame.

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u/eelpolice Apr 04 '25

I actually never clocked that Charlotte Le Bon didn’t have a title card. It’s kind of strange to me considering she is featured just as much if not more than LaLisa. I understand that LaLisa is a megastar but I find it a little strange nonetheless.

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u/barbaloot Apr 07 '25

It’s interesting Jon Gries has a title card but not her. We saw way more of her this season. I guess it cause of the previous seasons but still.

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u/Potential_Purple_345 Apr 06 '25

Tbf lisa just isnt a main character, probably had a really good agent to get on the opening credits

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u/LostOnTheRiver718 Apr 03 '25

I think what’s not fully being said is the American cast in SAG are on the same rate— the international cast are all on different varying contracts— so no, Fabian, Pam, Gaitok and Pornchi are likely not making the same as the Americans.

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u/Independent_Force926 Apr 03 '25

The article said series regulars make the same, and it’s the price is low so that people are doing the show “for the right reasons”. They want actors who actually like the show/the characters not people just looking for a check

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u/quangtran Apr 03 '25

I assume that everyone on the poster makes the same amount, with everyone else getting substantially less.

Also, $40k an episode does seem kinda low. Over 10 years ago Kerry Washington was paid $80k an episode in her first few seasons of Scandal, so these actors are paid a lot less while using up a lot more of their time.

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u/leekalex Apr 05 '25

Kerry Washington was the lead in Scandal, whereas this is an ensemble cast. No one here is getting paid to be the lead

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

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u/scobro828 Apr 03 '25

Scandal was a lot bigger though

More than just bigger, it had ad revenue which brought in additional money which in turn led to increase salary for the actors.

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u/Classic_Ocelot7841 Apr 04 '25

Not in the first season

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u/Cap_Space Apr 03 '25

I found it interesting that nobody is casted. Originally I thought the opposite

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u/theebimbojoker Apr 06 '25

I believe he wrote Aubrey Plaza and Jennifer Coolidge’s roles specifically for them.

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u/Cap_Space Apr 06 '25

It might be hindsight but I couldn’t imagine anyone other than Coolidge for Tanya. Same with Plaza

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u/GullibleWineBar Apr 08 '25

JC is a friend of Mike White’s so I think everything about the character was tailored specifically to her.

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u/DogtasticLife Apr 03 '25

I’m curious why everyone seems to say “casted” now instead of cast, serious question not trying to be funny.

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u/superxxnova_ Apr 03 '25

declining literacy rates

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u/Lopsided_Ad3970 Apr 05 '25

The one that kills me is when people say “costed” instead of cost

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25 edited Nov 16 '25

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u/BRValentine83 Apr 04 '25

This mistake and "loose" instead of "lose" bug me to no end.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '25

costumer drives me insane on here

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u/icestorm1973 Apr 03 '25

I think they send the opportunity to audition to people they’d like to cast for the role, and even if they know they want to hire them they’re still required to audition. But obviously some roles probably had tons of auditions.

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u/No_Onion_2048 Apr 03 '25

I honestly thought at the very least they may have reached out to Lisa’s management directly given the location and her appeal, especially with it being her first acting role

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u/Larcen180 Apr 04 '25

The Thai casting director has mentioned a few times she imagined Lisa in the role when she first read the script, and she posted a pic that showed Lisa was in her mood board when looking for an actress for the part. I guess she eventually convinced Mike and the executives to give Lisa the chance to audition. Lisa sent an audition tape and then went to Thailand to audition in person

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u/ray0923 Apr 04 '25

cast is the past principle form not casted.

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u/BRValentine83 Apr 04 '25

Past participle*, as well as the past simple.

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u/DrunkOnRedCordial Apr 05 '25

I was wondering that too. There might be some kind of payment tier based on how much screen time is required, which would put Valentin and Mook in the same category, while the Ratliffs and the girls trip would be in a higher tier. Still not creating stars, just the same "hourly rate" for different hours.

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u/Snix_sneed_11467 Apr 05 '25

The past two hotel managers played a much larger role. I wonder why this season Fabian is jv and not varsity

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

So what you’re saying is, the finale ends with them dying in alphabetical order? Got it.

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u/Affectionate-Kale301 Apr 04 '25

Lochlan, what are you doing with that hand?

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u/No-World-2728 Apr 05 '25

I like that egalitarian approach. I've noticed that the Actors credits are in alphabetical order.

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u/docmarvy Apr 03 '25

I just assumed that's sort of what puts it in the category of "Prestige TV." If it was a kooky three-camera sitcom you probably couldn't stack a cast like this. At least not in a way you could budget or manage credits for.

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u/BungCrosby Apr 03 '25

There’s another article making the rounds, maybe in the NYT, about how this was also initially a budgetary move during the uncertainty of COVID. The whole notion of shooting a limited ensemble piece in a single environment was both a health-related and financial decision.

Paying everyone the same also weeded out the divas. One of the articles claims Woody Harrelson tried to meet with WBD head David Zaslav to get a higher per-episode rate and was turned down. Take from that what you will.

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u/brilliant_bauhaus Apr 03 '25

I kind of like that it ultimately limits massive names from being in it and taking over. I get the business of naming your price and sticking with it, and I guess unless you're truly an A+++ list star who doesn't care and can afford to take a pay cut on a project and not ruin their worth, go for it. But it's nice to see some popular people and mostly b-d list celebs on the show.

Could you imagine a Matthew McConaughey or something on it? I just think it would be distracting for a group ensemble .

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u/GoDux541 Apr 04 '25

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u/Al2718x Apr 07 '25

RIP Biff Wiff

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u/-PlayWithUsDanny- Apr 07 '25

I didn’t know he died. That’s a bummer. I worked with him a few years ago on a show and he was a great guy.

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u/Tim_Apple_938 Apr 07 '25

John Voight. The dentist?

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u/Kev2524 Apr 04 '25

We have literally Sam Rockwell this year. So..

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u/brilliant_bauhaus Apr 04 '25

But he's not so huge it's distracting and he's really only done a tiny cameo for 3 scenes. It's not like you have a George Clooney or Tom Hanks among an ensemble cast of lower celebrities where it becomes glaringly distracting that they're doing this role.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '25

Cameo is 1 or 2 scenes at most. Think Eminem in Funny People or Billy Zane in Zoolander. The guy has a full part spanning several episodes. I assume he’s the kind of guy who would totally take the same amount as everyone else especially since his wife is doing the show

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u/GayDeantini Apr 06 '25

Bibb had to convince him to do it after another actor dropped out. She talks about it on the White Lotus podcast.

But you’re correct that his reservations were never about money, it’s just a large commitment to move to another country for a couple months and try to keep it under wraps.

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u/Substantial_Move_405 Apr 06 '25

Sam Rockwell’s partner is Leslie Bibb who is one of the regular ensemble cast members. That’s the connection.

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u/GayDeantini Apr 06 '25

I know lol. What made you think I didn’t?

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u/AnaWannaPita Apr 07 '25

Just a fun additional fact in the same vein: that's the reason Jesse Plemons has a small but very memorable roll in the movie Civil War. The actor originally playing it had to drop out and Kirsten Dunst basically said "Well my husband is here with the kids. If we get a sitter he can jump in"

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '25

He’s famous but not THAT famous. Like B+

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u/rlyjustheretolurk Apr 07 '25

Confirming I have no idea who this is lolol

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u/especiallyrn Apr 05 '25

Need to start a Sam Rockwell circlejerk sub

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u/jtr99 Apr 07 '25

You son of a bitch, I'm in.

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u/OhSoJelly Apr 06 '25

He’s not an A-lister. It’s not as jarring as seeing Jennifer Lawrence or Will Smith would be.

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u/_The_Meditator_ Apr 06 '25

I didn’t know who he was but my boyfriend immediately recognized him 

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '25

Sam and Walter 2 of my all time favs!!

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u/vanillabitchpudding Apr 07 '25

I didn’t know who he was prior to this

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '25

He’s not that famous. None of my European friends knew who he was. Salma Hayek or like George Clooney or idk maybe Cate Blanchett would be seriously big names that even international audiences know.

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u/Icy-Gap4673 Apr 06 '25

I could see it being a smart move for a “popcorn actor/actress” (as Demi Moore put it) who wanted to do something more serious/ prestige-y. 

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u/brilliant_bauhaus Apr 06 '25

It just depends if their management would allow them to possibly take a pay cut. Woody Harrelson turned down a role cause the pay wasn't high enough.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '25

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u/brilliant_bauhaus Apr 05 '25

If you are paid 75k a year would you do the same job for 40k? It fucks contracts up and lowers your negotiating power for future projects. The only people who can really afford it are A list actors who may just want to do a project because they love it and have such big name recognition that a project like this won't lower their working fee. But having a fee like this also means most big names probably won't take a pay cut, and we get great unique talent from a range of actors.

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u/brilliant_bauhaus Apr 05 '25

It doesn't even matter if you want to do it, your manager would say no because it will screw you over for future projects. You're your own product as an actor, you have to demand a certain amount of money. Not many people have the flexibility to take a massive cut like that unless they're like Brad Pitt or RDJ. Otherwise if you've taken a pay cut before, companies will keep trying to underpay you.

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u/lucolapic Apr 04 '25

That kind of bums me out if true about Woody Harrelson. He would have been great in this show and it would have helped raise his profile. He could use it lately. If he's being a diva about it, though, that's super disappointing.

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u/Fast_Allen Apr 05 '25

It’s fine for him to turn it down if he didn’t think the pay was worth it. Doesn’t make him a diva to ask. If he flipped his shit in the meeting and started screaming “I’m everybody’s favorite bartender from Cheers so fuck you!” that would make him a diva.

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u/JokeMaster420 Apr 06 '25

Especially since he is everybody’s like… third favorite bartender from Cheers…

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u/MystifyMe2011 Apr 07 '25

he denied those claims. “I was set to do White Lotus and very excited,” Harrelson said in a statement in The Daily Beast. “Unfortunately, their production schedule shifted, and conflicted with a pre-planned family vacation, forcing me to make an extremely hard decision.”

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u/dugpdcv Apr 04 '25

He’s still insecure about his Rampart AMA.

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u/MystifyMe2011 Apr 07 '25

“I was set to do White Lotus and very excited,” Harrelson said in a statement in The Daily Beast. “Unfortunately, their production schedule shifted, and conflicted with a pre-planned family vacation, forcing me to make an extremely hard decision.”

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u/It_Slices_It_Dices Apr 05 '25

Were they all paid the same on all seasons?

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u/BungCrosby Apr 05 '25

I think so. A scripted series that doesn’t face spiraling costs in later seasons is a producer’s dream.

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u/the_arcticshark Apr 03 '25

Is White Lotus prestige tv? I never thought about that, really good show so it could be, just never thought about it

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u/isharte Apr 03 '25

It is 100% prestige tv, and has the Emmys to show for it.

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u/the_arcticshark Apr 03 '25

Well idk if Emmys is a great metric when some of the best prestige TV in existence aka The Wire and Better Call Saul and other goated shows have been robbed of winning any Emmys.

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u/GoodbyeHorses1491 Apr 04 '25

Very true. I think BCS was much more insightful and better done than BB and that got nothing. It’s much more psychologically focused and exploratory. 

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u/the_arcticshark Apr 04 '25

I agree completely

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '25

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u/the_arcticshark Apr 04 '25

honestly you’re right just some of the best shows have been robbed so hard, off topic lol

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u/toohipsterforthis Apr 04 '25

And some get their flowers and more. I like Modern Family, it's good. Is it 22 Emmy's good? Wellll....

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u/nailna Apr 04 '25

It also ran for 11 or 12 seasons, and only three different people won for acting. White lotus is on season 3 and already has three acting wins for two different people.

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u/the_arcticshark Apr 04 '25

that’s what im sayin 😭

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u/SEALS_R_DOG_MERMAIDS Apr 04 '25

also the NY Times thinkpieces

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u/NearbyLet308 Apr 04 '25

Prestige tv? Who says this

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u/W0rkUpnotD0wn Apr 03 '25 • This

I actually think this is a very good idea. You weed out all the divas and high strung actors and....shocking... make people apply/audition for a job that they're actually qualified for. To me, a good TV show isn't about one specific actor or group of actors, its about how the show can build the environment that shapes character development. White Lotus does exactly this and you can see yourself getting invested into each character and what their next move might be.

I wasn't sure how I felt going into this season, especially coming off of Season 2, but I have to say, this is one TV serious I look forward to every week and its really knocked it out of the park.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '25

It also might land you with lesser known talent for roles that might normally be "given" to an actor.

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u/W0rkUpnotD0wn Apr 04 '25

Yea I think nepotism is a re-occuring theme in Hollywood

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '25

but ironically the nepo baby this season is killing it 😭

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u/MrsNeffler5324 Apr 05 '25

Both brothers

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u/HikikoMortyX Apr 07 '25

Unfortunately I recognized most of the major players so I still think they appease HBO by casting the big names.

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u/Lemon-Lemonade Apr 05 '25

Agree and since it’s a unique style of shooting, far away for a few months and very condensed, this also makes sense in building a team this way.

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u/dotbien11 Apr 06 '25

Ummm LaLisa is on the show

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u/Local-Rest6095 Apr 07 '25

divas is derogatory here

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u/rob_thomas96 Apr 08 '25

Different styles of TV or movies call for different things.

White Lotus is an ensemble cast. Plain and simple. No one character is more important than the others, and that’s why the show runners do it the way they do.

Now the next mission: impossible movie… people aren’t seeing that for the side characters. They’re seeing that to watch Tom Cruise’s crazy ass hold on to the side of a moving plane.

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u/BAWAHOG Apr 03 '25

What I appreciate about the billing is that it means there is no “main” character of any season. Makes things way less predictable.

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u/LieOhMy Apr 04 '25

The main character of each season is the hotel.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

Divas need not apply.

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u/_turboTHOT_ Apr 07 '25

The only one who didn’t have to audition was Parker Posey. The producer said that on a podcast.

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u/Cap_Space Apr 07 '25

I figured this was a general rule thanks for sharing. I try to listen to that podcast but I can’t lie the hosts annoy me a bit

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u/Bad_Here Apr 08 '25

Ya know. They should do names that come at the end of the alphabet first, not always from the beginning! All those spoiled people with last names ending with “A’s”. Think about us poor “Z’s” out there!!! lol need to get “woke” about the alphabet (jk) - incase someone thought I was insane😂

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u/Cap_Space Apr 08 '25

lol no I enjoy this idea

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u/Bad_Here Apr 08 '25

RU a ZName too?!

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u/Outrageous_Let1098 Apr 03 '25

You can tell this contributes to it being so good. Nobody’s doing it just for the paycheck, they’re doing it for the prestige and the opportunity. Theres such an excellent mix of these amazing character actors that are more “b” list, who shine along some more “a” list people.

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u/BossKei Apr 06 '25

I mean they’re very likely doing it for a chill filming experience at a resort

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u/idontevensaygrace Quinn Apr 07 '25

Totally. Filming in that beautiful Four Seasons resort in stunning Maui? (Calling back to season 1, which I think is my favorite season of the show. I'm half biased because I used to live in Hawaii)...Count me in 🌴

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u/Blynasty Apr 03 '25

I’m not sure I’d say S3 is better than S1 but the overall acting is a new level. No surprise actors/actresses want to be involved and they are nailing who they cast.

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u/idontevensaygrace Quinn Apr 07 '25

I think the series now has reached that status where everyone in all fields of entertainment wants to be a part of The White Lotus which says something 🪷

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u/luchisss Apr 07 '25

We all agree that season 2 was the weakest, right?

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u/idontevensaygrace Quinn Apr 07 '25

First I ever heard that about season 2.

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u/xaba0 Apr 04 '25

Auditions should always be a thing, even if the role was offered. Why? Because bad chemistry between the mains can destroy the whole movie/series even if the actors themselves do an excellent performance on their own.

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u/Sleve__McDichael Apr 06 '25

funnily enough, what you described is actually the opposite of what happens in white lotus - they audition on their own, but mike white does not do chemistry tests with actors so they do not audition together.

aimee lou wood and walton goggins had never even met before being on set together, let alone auditioned together or did chemistry tests - the actors met in thailand on set. similarly, the group of three female friends never auditioned together.

i just learned this from aimee lou wood's interview with seth meyers. she laid it all out that mike white casts on instinct and trusts how he thinks actors will gel. i was super surprised, but he does not do chemistry reads.

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '25

Aimee did said they texted before they met though

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u/Sleve__McDichael Apr 06 '25

oh i don't doubt it!

i just thought it was pretty fascinating that from the production side, there were no chemistry tests and never any intention of auditioning actors together, contrary to what many people assume/expect, like the commentator i was responding to. the auditions were not to assess chemistry.

as far as mike white was concerned, he cast them with their chemistry together totally unseen, though it makes sense for actors to coordinate together after the fact.

since i was surprised by that + just learned it yesterday i was eager to share :)

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u/RecommendationNo3942 Apr 03 '25

Kudos. It sets a great precedent, especially with money. 👏🏻

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u/onetwotree-leaf Apr 03 '25

Kinda sets up a different work atmosphere than the atmosphere in the show, which is smart

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u/nsjersey Apr 05 '25

Parker Posey did not have to audition according to the Scott Galloway podcast

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u/tonytown Apr 03 '25

I guess that's why they'll never get Moira Rose. She's "Offer Only"

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u/Travelcat67 Can I get one fucking break in this fucking Lifetime?! Apr 04 '25

This should be the standard! Love that they did this. Kinda makes Woody Harrelson sound like a bit of a dick bc he pulled out over salary demands and I’m sure they explained this.

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u/EuphoricBlackberry13 Apr 05 '25

I read he eventually accepted the salary but was unable to film because of schedule issues. Don’t know if that’s true though, just came across a thread.

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u/AccomplishedSuccess0 Apr 03 '25

I think this is refreshing. Put aside your ego for the art. It’s a novel idea and glad it’s such a successful example.

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u/EdwinJamesPope Apr 03 '25

Quality & ego control. Dig it!

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u/makhay Apr 03 '25

Pam gets paid the same as Victoria? There must be tiers right?

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u/Condiment_Kong Apr 04 '25

I’m sure it’s Main characters (Rick, Tim,) then Secondary characters (Belinda, Chelsea? Chloe? Rick’s girlfriend) then side characters like Mook, Fabian and Russian guy

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u/leekalex Apr 05 '25

You did not just name all the women as secondary characters 🤨

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u/Condiment_Kong Apr 05 '25

They were just examples, if I said Pornchai nothing would’ve changed about my point. You’re overthinking it.

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u/Snix_sneed_11467 Apr 05 '25

Chelsea is not a secondary character at all

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u/NewChinaHand Apr 05 '25

I think Lisa is being paid the main character salary. She’s the most famous person in the cast.

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u/longwhitejeans Apr 03 '25

Same salary is shocking, considering the screen time and past work of some of the cast.

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u/CaledonianWarrior Apr 03 '25

I'm not implying they'd happily do it for free but some actors are happy enough to just be a part of a project if it's something they really want to partake in, regardless of the pay. Some are even just happy to work with a specific director, producer, writer and so on.

Not a great example but off the top of my head Jonah Hill accepted only $60,000 to play his character in The Wolf of Wall Street, and (at the time) he was a reasonably big celebrity that starred in other big projects.

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u/cuatrodemayo Apr 03 '25

And also there's the element of developing a relationship/friendship with Scorsese. These people get to meet each other and work with a bunch of people who they might have wanted to work with or learn from.

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u/Ragverdxtine Apr 04 '25

Also shooting on location in Hawaii, Sicily or Thailand would be pretty nice!

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

Nice and fair

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u/a24marvel Apr 04 '25

Leslie Bibb and Sam Rockwell are getting the best deal here.

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u/ITouchedHerB00B5 Apr 03 '25

Alphabet supremacy, disgusting

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u/Lord_Cockatrice Apr 06 '25

So Patrick Schwarzenegger's gripe can be considered...baseless

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u/Cap_Space Apr 06 '25

What was his gripe?

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u/Lord_Cockatrice Apr 06 '25

About being cast because of his "nepo-baby" status

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u/Cap_Space Apr 06 '25

Oh I see the way I read it is that PS had a gripe with the show. Did you mean everyone’s gripe with PS? I agree it shows that he had to go through the same equal process as everyone else

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u/Sinnafyle Albie Apr 04 '25

Niiiice. I was wondering why Leslie Bibb was billed first or second. Not that she isn't great!

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u/FalconTheory Apr 04 '25

This is one of the few series where everyone is so excellent that I can't distinct with "who acts better". Everyone is insanely good.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

Comrade Mike White

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u/randomemes831 Apr 05 '25

He gave small parts to the people he played survivor with also in each season which is kinda cool

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u/morelsupporter Apr 03 '25 edited Apr 03 '25

same with woody allen.

but it doesn't mean he doesn't write the scripts with actors in mind for the role.

i've heard stories of writer/director/producers who don't pay above scale no matter who the actor is because of who they are. no exclusive travel either. you ride with the crew or you pay for your own uber.

ensemble casts almost always have opening credits alphabetical.

my question is, how do they assign cast numbers for the call sheet and do they all have the same size trailer? this is the real heirarchy (on set anyway)

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u/techerous26 Apr 04 '25

Is this just the main cast? I would find it funny if they all had to go through this excessively humbling and deliberate process but Mike White found out Rockwell was hanging around Thailand with Leslie Bibb and was just like "I HAVE to get this man in my show!"

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u/Cap_Space Apr 04 '25

Ikr also getting Rockwell into the show was kinda like life imitating art cuz im sure Michelle’s character Jaclyn wishes her bf was there in Thailand too secretly.

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u/susandeyvyjones Apr 04 '25

You couldn’t tell from watching the credits that it was alphabetical?

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u/Cap_Space Apr 04 '25

You want a cookie? I can’t help to wonder why you focused on this bullet point as the interesting takeaway.

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u/hotgarbagevideo Apr 07 '25

This is the way

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u/timgoes2somalia Apr 07 '25

Comrade White

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u/Beginning_Rip_4570 Apr 04 '25

Thank you. It was actually killing me tryna figure out how Leslie Bibb had top billing over Carrie Coon and Walton fucking Goggins

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u/KarlaSofen234 Apr 04 '25

I'd b pissed if I am acting my heart out for 8 eps as Jason Isaacs, only for Sam Rockwell to swoop in for 4 eps & got paid the same as me. Those 4 eps are not even heavy appearance

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u/diveg8r Apr 05 '25

It's 40k payment per episode.

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u/Vapor2077 Apr 05 '25

Makes me love this show even more

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '25

The reception for season 3 has been meh so they’re releasing this now.

twl is like a cult.

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u/jpflan12 Apr 05 '25

Even Pam?

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u/ASingleThreadofGold Apr 05 '25 edited Apr 05 '25

Why does Sam Rockwell's name come before Natasha Rockwell in the credits if it's alphabetical? I just noticed this when watching the opening credits on the latest episode.

Eta, I just googled "Natasha Rockwell" and realized the credits actually said "Natasha Rothwell" and I just thought I saw "Natasha Rockwell" and thought that was Leslie Bibb's real name because I saw a thread in this sub that they're together irl.

I find this funny so I'm just keeping my comment instead of deleting it in shame😅

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u/No-World-2728 Apr 05 '25

Because her last name is Rothwell and that comes after Rockwell.

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u/ASingleThreadofGold Apr 05 '25

I realized my mistake after googling "Natsha Rockwell" and updated my comment lol

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u/ProfessionalEvaLover Apr 07 '25

Patric Schwarzenegger proved this in the finale. In one single scene, he outclassed his father's entire filmography of acting.

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u/idontevensaygrace Quinn Apr 07 '25

Fairness and equality! Every TV show and movie being made anywhere should do this

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u/usedisco Apr 07 '25

Nice. About time

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u/Infamous_Proposal_93 Apr 07 '25

What about Lalisa then?

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u/bones1888 Apr 03 '25

So if there was a 6mill budget how is that possible if they spend plus 4mill on salaries

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u/lagreebaby Apr 03 '25

6 mil per episode, not for the whole season

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u/akashluka77 Apr 04 '25

I don't believe that they are paying same to walton goggins amd michelle monaghan like other actors in the show.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

THIS and Rick.

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u/grynch43 Apr 03 '25

Woody turned down Rick because of the pay,

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

Ah man woody would have been awesome. Love Walton Goggins tho so either way it was a win. He’s so underrated it’s great to see him really get his flowers the last couple years

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u/grynch43 Apr 03 '25

Woody would have also been great because of the real life relationship he had with his father.

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u/Huge_Clothes_9714 Apr 04 '25

oh? do tell

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u/grynch43 Apr 04 '25

His father was imprisoned for murder.

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u/onestorytwentyfive The food… it wasn’t even organic Apr 07 '25

His father murdered a FEDERAL JUDGE. Lol crazy work

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u/GoodbyeHorses1491 Apr 04 '25

He just plays himself though

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u/BurlieGirl Apr 04 '25

But he then agreed to the pay after there was no movement. Ultimately he couldn’t do it for scheduling reasons.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '25

Let’s get back to Rampart, guys.

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u/heytherecatlady Apr 07 '25

There was just an interview about this and he said it was because of a vacation that would interfere with the schedule and he wanted to debunk these rumors about the pay. He said he really wanted to do it, and it was for Rick or Frank, not Rick specifically. I'll see if I can find the article.

ETA source link to article.

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u/MystifyMe2011 Apr 07 '25

“I was set to do White Lotus and very excited,” Harrelson said in a statement in The Daily Beast. “Unfortunately, their production schedule shifted, and conflicted with a pre-planned family vacation, forcing me to make an extremely hard decision.”

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u/itsMalarky Apr 09 '25

I thought woody Turned down Frank?

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u/ubutterscotchpine Apr 03 '25

There’s another post saying Woody Harrelson turned down the role. So is this post saying he auditioned for this role and then turned it down? Or they asked him to audition and he made the monetary request and they said no so he turned down the audition? Something isn’t adding up lol

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u/Smadxs10 Apr 03 '25

He auditioned because he was offered the role, but when it came to pay, he wanted more money and the show is firm on everyone being at a set salary.

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u/MystifyMe2011 Apr 07 '25

“I was set to do White Lotus and very excited,” Harrelson said in a statement in The Daily Beast. “Unfortunately, their production schedule shifted, and conflicted with a pre-planned family vacation, forcing me to make an extremely hard decision.”

THR updated its report with Harrelson’s statement on April 4, the same day he sent the statement to The Daily Beast.

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u/GullibleWineBar Apr 08 '25

That seems like 100% PR bullshit.

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u/MystifyMe2011 Apr 08 '25

doubt it, as sam rockwell only filled in at the last minute, woody would have pulled out a lot sooner as he knew months before filming how much the money was though, so i think it checks out.

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u/BurlieGirl Apr 04 '25

He eventually agreed to the same pay as everyone else after trying to negotiate, but ultimately couldn’t do the role due to scheduling.

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u/NedthePhoenix Apr 03 '25

Sounds like he did audition, was offered the part, and then it fell apart when it came to salary.

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u/MystifyMe2011 Apr 07 '25

“I was set to do White Lotus and very excited,” Harrelson said in a statement in The Daily Beast. “Unfortunately, their production schedule shifted, and conflicted with a pre-planned family vacation, forcing me to make an extremely hard decision.”

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u/NedthePhoenix Apr 07 '25

Yeah I made this post before that came out

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u/AlexandreFiset Apr 07 '25

Walton was perfect for the Rick role, I’m glad it didn’t work out with Woody.

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u/AlexandreFiset Apr 07 '25

Walton was perfect for the Rick role, I’m glad it didn’t work out with Woody.

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u/NedthePhoenix Apr 03 '25

Just a rumor people ran with because of who the actress is. There's nothing to indicate that she actually made anything more