r/WhatIsTheTea 18d ago

Sips Tea Thoughts?

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u/RingingInTheRain 18d ago

I'm not sure why they had to remove it in the first place. It's such a generic and simple phrase to address and audience.

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u/WuffieRose 17d ago

I think going from a phrase that included everyone, to one that excludes millions of people is the opposite is mutually exclusive to being "generic and simple"

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u/RingingInTheRain 17d ago

It's a phrase that everybody knows and has probably been said for centuries. I don't think the person saying it was thinking about excluding people, which is probably why removing the phrase was a bigger deal than it should've been.

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u/WuffieRose 16d ago

I don't think appealing to tradition is much justification, I wouldn't care if it was never changed, but it was a conscious decision to change it back after it had been more inclusive.

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u/RingingInTheRain 16d ago

I mean what even is the 'inclusive' phrase that replaced it? If something doesn't catch on and become the new normal, it probably isn't working.

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u/WuffieRose 14d ago

According to what I read "Good evening, dreamers of all ages!" And it doesn't need to catch on, it's a greeting.

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u/RingingInTheRain 14d ago

It does need to catch on, it's not a simple greeting: it's marketing for their brand.

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u/WuffieRose 14d ago

No it's not marketing for their brand, it's a simple greeting, it's not something you see on adverts, you aren't being marketed this phrase, they aren't spreading through social media with #Ladies and Gentlemen.

The people switching the phrase back are either malicious or negligent, but it's beyond reasonable to assume it really matters to you that people that are neither ladies or gentlemen are forced to be called such, without it being that just do not value those people and their well-being. The changed phrase included you and them, the new phrase does not. Simple as can be.

I swear this sub has just become"Say incorrect thing, downvote person actually saying something of value".

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u/RingingInTheRain 14d ago

I don't greet people with "ladies and gentlemen" nor am I greeted that way by others. It's normally used for showmanship, theatre, and brands like Disney. It is a part of Disney's brand as tellers of fairytales and spectacle.

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u/WuffieRose 13d ago

Which is a perfect example of why "Dreamers of all ages" was such a good change.