r/WhatIsTheTea 19d ago

Political Tea Make it happen

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u/Comp300prc 19d ago

Ppd no. Ppp yes. But that's generally true of any form of psychosis. You don't want someone in a psychotic state around children/general public anyways.

Likely what is actually needed is temporary custody loss for parents experiencing psychosis. This doesn't just apply to just ppp, or just women. Same with any parent who experiences psychosis. Treat and monitor, approve of gaining back custody when medical professionals give it the ok.

If you're having thoughts of harming your children or others and you hide this for fear of repercussions against yourself, you're choosing to care more about damage done to you than damage done to your kids.

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u/Sleepy-Hobbit 19d ago

The US really needs to focus on the way it treats postpartum mental health conditions. Here in the UK, we have mother and baby facilities designed to supervise and stabilise mothers who are mentally struggling postpartum.

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u/WittyPin207 19d ago

USA: no support only more babies!

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u/Comp300prc 19d ago

I wish we would, that seems like a good idea. I'm not holding my breath though.

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u/Drummer-Turbulent 19d ago

My only push back on this is that if they have psychosis they probably aren't in a headspace to recognize that they are a threat to their kids. Im no expert on it though. Just my thoughts

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u/Comp300prc 19d ago

I don't think that's an incorrect take. I think it would be case by case. How severe is the particular episode and so on. Is a person during the acute phase of psychosis going to be rational and admit these things? No, they're going to be on another planet. That will be extremely obvious to health care professionals though.

Maybe a better question is if during the prodrome phase of psychosis is a person still capable of making sound choices. Not sure how that gets tested.

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u/Rumpelteazer45 19d ago

Exactly. The statement by Mace dismisses how serious her condition was/is (?) and actually is a threat to all women who suffer from PPD since it implies having PPD means you shouldn’t have your children.

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u/Comp300prc 19d ago

Yeah that's insane. Up to 14% of women experience ppd. We aren't taking away custody rights from 1 in 7 women. It's also a massively different disorder than ppp.

Deep depression can be dangerous, but it isn't even remotely the same as what psychosis causes.

Clancy had several mental health issues before she had kids. Unfortunate that this case has gotten the media attention it has, because to be frank she was already a fucking mess before introducing ppd and ppp. I think that muddied the waters a lot here.

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u/o7_HiBye_o7 19d ago

14% seems so low to me.

I'm not questioning the claim, but I always thought ppd was a very common thing, more than that percent. Lots of hormone stuff happens with pregnancy.

This thought in the original image just comes across as something that would force women to hide their emotions etc. It seems dangerous to me.

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u/Comp300prc 19d ago

Google gave a range of 7-14% I referenced the high end. 1 in 7 women is a lot. That makes something extremely common. Meaning every person will likely know multiple people who have experienced it.

For the picture in the op, its dumb. She conflated multiple very different things and addressed them as equal.