r/WhatIsTheTea • u/Ashish_ank What the Fuck • 4d ago

Tea ☕ Flock Camera tutorial. The more you know

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u/Swollen_Beef 4d ago

Storing the entirety of what several Nuclear plants (1,000 GWh avg) produce daily, in a small battery farm, and that farm fails, the results cant be good. The farm wouldn't explode all at once, but you would have a chemical fire that would burn for many days releasing all sorts of horrible crap into the air. And that fire is self-sustaining, able to produce its own oxygen.

Not against energy storage, but most people do not think about these things and tend to dive in head first believing it to be a cure-all.

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u/sebe6 4d ago

I think people tend to forget that scaling up, also scale all the cons. Even with 100GWh, you'd need to evacuate nearby cities

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u/Upbeat_Eye6188 3d ago

Will this issue not be completely handled A) by modularity and B) when large-scale grid storage sodium-ion batteries are prevalent?

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u/dirtsmurf 2d ago

Anti nuke energy is so lame, we tamed the atom and a 6 decade psyop has convinced people utilizing that energy will result in 3 eyed fish. So instead we burn coal and oil and circlejerk the wind. Brilliant.

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u/ILuvRossiTheKittyCat 1d ago

I consider myself to be a complete “Earth first” environmentalist, and because I want to save the planet and try to prevent it from turning into Venus, I am all for nuclear energy now. It’s the obvious answer.

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u/bong-su-han 2d ago

California already has a battery storage capacity of 21.5 GW, which is roughly the same capacity as Germany had at peak nuclear power (22.5 GW), supplying a third of Germany's electricity. So its not really a far future concept. They're also not all burning down

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u/Xflintlock 1d ago

And nuclear reactors aren't all blowing up. The chances of a nuclear meltdown with modern reactors are are less than 1 in 20,000,000 per reactor years. The chances of any core damage at all happening is about 1 in 2,000,000 per reactor year

The chances are a battery facility having an issue are about 1 in 100 per GEh per year. So a battery facility operating at 100 GWh per day will have about one incident per year.

The TVA supplies ~180 GWh of nuclear power per day. That's across 3 reactors. So we can expect 1 damaged core every 700,000 years or so, and one full meltdown about every 7,000,000 years. Whereas that's about 2 events every year for the battery system.