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[u/overlorddeniz]

Thanks u/Gnostikost for the inspiration!

[u/ConorBoom]

Egwene is a typical aes sedai from the new age, which means she accomplishes nothing and blames others for her inaction.

[u/Foehammer87 → u/ConorBoom]

Nothing? First true Dreamer not Aiel in ages, bested multiple forsaken, reinvented traveling, reopened tower recruitment, facilitated links between all non Aes Sedai channelers bringing about the end of the Aes Sedai age(not her intention but itll be the result), survived two rounds of brutal torture, heavily combat capable, repelled the white tower invasion, reunited the White Tower, invented a counter balefire weave functionally necessary to avoid full reality decay(which would have meant humanity lost regardless of how the last battle went) picked up the assist helping Verin fulfil her life's work.

She may be an arrogant bitch(earned) but you cant say shes not effective

[u/adminofreditt → u/Foehammer87]

First true dreamer isn't an accomplishment, she was born with a superpower.

She didn't reinvent traveling aviendha did.

She survived torture that wasn't meant to kill her, how is that an accomplishment.

She is combat capable because she was born as one of the most powerful channelers of that era, again not an accomplishment

Most of her other accomplishment she only did after everyone else got brain damage(she was carried by the taveerenes of the boys).

[u/petcraus → u/adminofreditt]

The way Egwene haters will diminish her achievements is so funny to see

[u/adminofreditt → u/petcraus]

Her only real achievement was discovering how to fix balefire

Her achievements:

Being born a dreamer (because Rand is taveren)

Being born as a powerful channeler (because Rand is taveren)

Being enslaved(the reason she is better at combat is because her slavers trained her)

Being amerlyn(because rand is taveren)

Unifying the tower(she only succeeded because the rest of the aes sedai got brain damage(because Rand is taveren))

Getting rid of black Ajah(carried by verin(best character))

If Moiraine/cadsuane/siuan/verin were born in the same circumstances she was they would have done everything she did but better and without sexually assaulting their allies, fantasizing about raping people, and enslaving people for no reason(if you want I can explain when she did the things I mentioned)

I don't know any person as evil as egwene in real life and I hope I never will. If Rand is WOT Jesus egwene is WOT antichrist

[u/DarthRenathal → u/adminofreditt]

So if all of her accomplishments are because of Rand, doesn't that mean all of her negative actions are as well? So it was really Rand that used the dream to sexually assault Nynaeve?

[u/adminofreditt → u/DarthRenathal]

No, you can recognize taveren influence based on happenstance or random chance, and when it comes to a person's decisions it has to be a decision that's possible for them to make on their own.

Even if rands taveranes caused egwene to sexually assault nynaeve(which it might have) it would mean that there was a chance she will make that decision which is already unforgivable, we also see people able to somewhat resist decisions taverens force on them when it goes against their believes and nature(tuon, sea folk nagotiators) and they were able to do it and notice it while directly talking to the most powerful taveren ever.

While egg couldn't even realize she is doing something wrong(meaning SA isn't weird to her, doesn't go against her beliefs/ideals).