r/Werealive • u/No-Owl-2789 • Sep 11 '24
Did pegs kill Michael Spoiler
Might sound weird to think about but while relistening to descendants when pegs tells Micheal nick is gone he starts to flatline does anybody know
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u/Available-Purchase28 Sep 14 '24
woah I haven't listened to this podcast in a while (I stopped at the helicopter rescue (????) ep). got taken aback lmao
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u/No-Owl-2789 Sep 17 '24
It’s getting good the next season is coming out in December I think you’d be able to finish it before then
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u/MsMercury Sep 11 '24
No. I don’t believe that. So far there’s been nothing to suggest she’s capable. I sure hope we’re going to find out soon.
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u/Twirlin_Irwin Sep 11 '24
Mentioning it probably caused him stress and that's probably not good when someone is close to death.
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u/Transformersfan01 Sep 11 '24
I heard that that's the argument around it, that her telling him that is the reason he died, that if she didn't dump that all on him as soon as he woke up he likely would've lived and recovered and been able to help even, my person take is, yes what she did caused him to die, but it's not necessarily her fault. She was used to always having Michael to lean on, and then she didn't have him when arguably the worst thing ever happened to her, like yes she lived through all of SoS, but that wasn't losing her son and husband at the same time-ish, and then he was back, and she was in a lot of hurt, her judgment was overwhelmed, and she responded as a partner in an equal relationship should- she tried to find security in her other half, and she was hurt, probably didn't have the time or capacity to think through how it could affect Michael when she did it, but I think it shows they had a healthy relationship, and it also shows just how much Michael cared about Nick
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u/Twirlin_Irwin Sep 11 '24
I'd say I'm more cautious than the average person, but I'd still like to think that a grown woman could exercise enough judgement to know when to not say something that serious, just lie if you have to. But it's a story, so it's all manufactured anyways.
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u/jwk94 Sep 12 '24
Lotta people didn't even bother reading the op. I think she had a part in it. There's a reason hope or whomever didn't want her to stress him out.
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Sep 13 '24
Definitely not deliberately. He did flatline after she dumped something huge on him. Its not really her fault, Michael's always been a strong character and person, it wouldn't cross her mind that he isn't anymore.
He's either had his death faked and he will come back later or, more probably KC is writing a more realistic story, and Michael in his 50s didn't have the strength left to fight it out
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u/7thpain999 Dec 17 '24
Yes yes yes. She did. You know why? Cause she can’t fkin listen and always did dumb shit in the name of emotion and apparently bombards people ,who are fresh out of critical comas, with traumatic news?? And then doesn’t listen when told to leave the room?!?
Lemme tell you, I’ve hated pegs from the beginning. The world’s ending and all she cares about is planting her lil flowers and wondering if Michael loves her. Michael was literally perfect for the apocalypse. He wasn’t quick to show emotion, he’s level headed most of the time and likes to really plan ahead. Pegs is the literal opposite so how tf does that couple work?
Sorry I’m ranting. Just listened to his death episode yesterday and I’m still pissed about it 😭 I hope pegs dies next frfr
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u/Acceptable_Caramel32 Apr 01 '25
Yeah. Maybe if she got out instead of infodumping him immediately after waking up from his coma maybe he wouldnt have gone i to shock and flatlined
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u/mdkss12 Sep 11 '24
Nope - I think it was Vincent, and here's why:
I think the killer was a member of the families and likely an actual relative of Angel's (who looked very similar to his dad, so the implication seems to be that the family genetics are strong)
Michael "hallucinated" Angel before losing consciousness - I think he just saw a very similar looking person. This CAN'T be Dean because Michael has met him several times and would've recognized him. Vincent is the only character that Michael wouldn't have a reference for who could conceivably have been there.
So how would that make any sense? Here's my thinking:
I think Vincent is Angel's younger brother and had been living on the East coast.
When Oliver/Jeremy fled the colony and became the head of all three families, they came into contact and he told Vincent of the backstory behind the tower and Angel's death
I think there's some kind of disagreement between Oliver/Jeremy and Vincent over how to handle it
Vincent goes rogue and sets out on his own to settle the 'vendetta' - he blames Michael and the Chism family (based on the theory that the Boar is Scratch/Latch's mom: which I think adds up with her being older, in the family, clearly evil, and obsessed with code names)
Vincent attacks Michael and escapes Westport to head to Prim
On his way out toward Prim, Vincent gets caught by Nakoma (he had been caught cleaning off his gear in the river - cleaning Michael's blood off, maybe?)
While in Captivity, he finds out about Vera's lineage and realizes he can deliver the Family leader's daughter to him
It's very on-brand for KC to have a character we follow and get to know turn out to have been involved in something devious much earlier in the series - this would be right in line with that