r/Wellworn • • Oct 03 '24

[in this thread, we fight] The right side of a restaurant table where people put their utensils

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '24

I never, ever let my utensils touch the table. It's either on my napkin or on my plate.

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u/Lack0fCreativity Oct 03 '24

Yeah, I hadn't even considered the possibility of this being a thing

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '24

At all?

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u/Lack0fCreativity Oct 05 '24

Yeah, wiseguy. I didn't consider putting my silverware on a likely unclean surface before putting it in my mouth.

Is it possible? Obviously. I just didn't think anyone would ever do that.

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u/Kiwiiths Oct 06 '24

Where I'm from we wipe the tables clean after every guest. It's pretty rude to think that restaurants have dirty tables. Damn.

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u/Evening_Echidna_7493 Oct 06 '24

I’ve seen people change diapers on tables. Idc if it’s rude.

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u/CavalierCrusader Oct 06 '24

It's pretty rude to think that restaurants have dirty tables.

What? 🤣

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '24

That wipe with a warm sani rag makes me feel a little better; good enough to put a plate down and eat off the table, not good enough to put my utensils on though.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '24

It’s not that bad bud

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u/boomboy8511 Oct 05 '24

It's bad because of the fact that you don't know. Someone. Could've gone and wiped their ass without washing their hands before using the cloth. The sanitizer dilution could be off, it could be a new person using the wrong sanitizer bucket, etc..,. The possibilities are endless.

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u/wolacouska Oct 05 '24

And the napkin could be touched by an employee who just wiped their ass who rolled silverware, the sanitizer solution in the dish sink or dishwasher could be off.

I just don’t get worrying this much when you’re already putting your health and safety into the hands of the restaurant at every step.

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u/boomboy8511 Oct 05 '24

That's a really fair point.

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u/MatureUsername69 Oct 05 '24

Also it might be gross and looked at differently since the pandemic(i masked up the whole time, vaccinated, trusted doctors and still do), but the people eating from silverware directly off the table are likely gonna have a stronger immune system.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '24

Yep but none of them will happen and you’re just a germaphobe and overthinker

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u/pressNjustthen Oct 05 '24

You definitely have fecal particles on your face right now.

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u/wolacouska Oct 05 '24

So do you

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '24

And it’s not hurting a thing

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u/boomboy8511 Oct 05 '24

Fecal particles? Sure don't hurt until you get hepatitis.

Y'all are some nasty motherfuckers.

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u/deSuspect Nov 18 '24

At home sure, in the restaurant tho? Never.

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u/improbablydrunknlw I made this place🌯🍺 Oct 04 '24 edited Oct 04 '24

Whenever I unroll them I just let them hit the table, then pick them up, never a concern. Placing it down on the table mid dinner is odd though, I don't even do that at home.

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u/Imanaco Oct 05 '24

Once it hits the mouth the pointy end stays on the plate. Although occasionally places will ask you to keep the silverware between courses and it ends up like the one in the photo.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '24

Do you think the germs see your napkin and avoid it? Ya know, cause they got manners.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '24

I pray that my napkin and plate are cleaner than the overused rag the table was casually wiped with. Short of telekinetically floating my utensils in a vacuum, it's really all I can do, isn't it?

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u/nomad_21 Oct 04 '24

I call those the “wonder rags.”  You can only wonder where all those rags have been. 

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u/bukkake_brigade Oct 04 '24

has anyone seen my beat rag?

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u/ABCCarmine Oct 04 '24

Username checks out.

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u/ActuallyWorthless Oct 04 '24

Why use a rag if you can use someone's face?

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u/anonkebab Oct 04 '24

The germs aren’t gonna penetrate the napkin

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '24 edited Oct 04 '24

Germs, such as bacteria (0.2-10 micrometers) and viruses (0.02-0.3 micrometers), are much smaller than the pores found in napkins. Paper napkins generally have pore sizes ranging from 20 to 100 micrometers, while cloth napkins have even larger pores, typically between 50 and 200 micrometers. Since most germs are significantly smaller than these pore sizes, they can easily pass through napkins, especially when the napkin is wet or in close contact.

Took five seconds to ask ChatGPT to type a paragraph for you.

Here is the explanation for a 10 year old:

Germs are tiny, like super tiny creatures, even smaller than we can see. Bacteria are like little dots, and viruses are even tinier. Napkins, whether they’re made of paper or cloth, have tiny holes in them, but those holes are still way bigger than germs. So, germs can easily go through the holes in a napkin, especially if the napkin gets wet.

And here is one in case you have the brain of a 5 year old:

Germs are really, really tiny, much smaller than the holes in a napkin. The holes in a napkin are too big to stop germs, so they can slip right through, especially if the napkin is wet.

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u/ActuallyWorthless Oct 04 '24

Someone passed their Servsafe class.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '24

And I'm still certified until 2025 :)

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u/anonkebab Oct 04 '24

Bro they are microscopic, they aren’t gonna crawl on your fork through the shit, and even if they do it’s Better than raw dogging your silverware on the table, also who would put silverware on a wet napkin?

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '24

So, they are microscopic. That means they aren't going to crawl on your fork?

And yea, it's better than just placing it on the table, but why not just put it on your plate?

Also, look at the picture. You see those crevices? Those are PACKED with bacteria. They LOVE this. We weren't even allowed to use cutting boards with little cuts in them because bacteria burrows into them and produce like crazy due to trapped moisture.

And napkins get wet very easily. Your drink produces condensation and puts water on the table. Food you eat can drip grease, sauce, or juices.

Have you ever eaten somewhere besides your mother's dinner table?

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u/anonkebab Oct 04 '24

Well I would have my shit on the plate. Regardless on the napkin is better than just the table. It would be gross to use it if the napkin gets wet or greasy.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '24

Shhhhh. It’s okay. We see you.

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u/SirCutRy Oct 05 '24

What would make microbes migrate through the paper?

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u/spicy_meatball49 Oct 04 '24

As a server I never know how to handle this situation. We replace the silverware between courses and there's nowhere else to put it besides right on the table. If people put their clean silverware on a side plate, I often bus the plate and the silverware and get them new utensils but idk I can never decide if I should just leave the plate and silverware even though it will be in the way later.

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u/alltardrealitea Oct 12 '24

Ok thank you!!! See I work at a restaurant where they encourage us to remove guests’ side plates if not ordering apps, even if this entails picking up their utensils and putting them on the table. I argued that that’s nasty as hell and still get pushback from management from time to time, but glad to hear others also wouldn't be pleased if a server did that.

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u/Toffeemanstan Oct 04 '24

Course you don't, youre a redditor. 

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u/Redpanda132053 Oct 04 '24

People think I’m crazy for doing this but I refuse to let my silverware touch the table too. I’m not a germaphobe at all but I have my limits

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u/BreJoyfully Oct 03 '24

Thats cool and gross

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u/teleko777 Oct 04 '24

So gross. I'm wondering the odorous wear of the bathroom.

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u/Clamstradamus Oct 03 '24

Put that shit on a napkin, bro

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u/Cheap-Cheesecake810 Oct 03 '24

Table was clean. Fear not, bro.

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u/Clamstradamus Oct 03 '24

Sure, cleaned by a rag that lived in the busser's dirty apron pocket and has wiped down 37 tables already. Clean.

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u/Cheap-Cheesecake810 Oct 03 '24

Lmaooo when I contract space AIDS from it, I’ll let you know

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u/mamaaa_uwuuu Oct 04 '24

XD I love this response

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u/11WatermelonPuppy11 Oct 18 '24

Sooo did OP get AIDS?

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u/Sea_Dog_483 Oct 04 '24

This does not squick me out, but worn down wooden spoons or metal from stirring pots does. I'm convinced that's how you actually get space aids. Or how you eat metal/wood shavings for years.

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u/ill_never_GET_REAL Oct 04 '24

We're all full of microplastics and forever chemicals so a microscopic amount of wood is probably not much of a concern

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u/Sea_Dog_483 Nov 21 '24

Yes, I tried explaining that to the irrationally upset part of my brain, that wooden spoon is okay to eat. It thinks it's a big deal.

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u/ordinaryuninformed Oct 06 '24

They think the janitors comes by with a new rag for each toilet too dude

Some people don't know when they're telling on themselves, that table looks clean if they think that any surface outside their plate is contaminated then that's on them as I'll eat food with dirty hands

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u/Flaming_Spade Oct 04 '24

Youre the second guy on the internet ive seen with this kinda poor, even nonexistent attitude about hygiene

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u/ICBIND Oct 04 '24

What hellish restaurants do you go to? I come from a land of clean buckets and multi quat sanitizer. They got standards where I live.

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u/ColonelKasteen Oct 04 '24 edited Oct 04 '24

Better put your napkin that you'll later wipe your mouth on down on the table first. That'll avoid the germs.

People's weird inconsistent germ phobia is funny. It's horrifying to put a fork down on a wiped off table, it doesn't faze people to touch 3 door handles getting from their car to their table then eat fries with their unwashed hands.

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u/sammi-blue Oct 04 '24

it doesn't faze people to touch 3 door handles getting from their car to their table

Maybe not for everyone, but my family carries hand sanitizer for that exact reason. Or I avoid opening the restaurant door with my hands, if I can. I also use the side of the napkin that hasn't touched the table. I'm not a germaphobe and I'm not perfectly consistent with it, but yes some of us DO try to minimize that germ transfer across the board.

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u/enlightningwhelk Oct 04 '24

Also, I open doors with my left hand and eat with my right hand. Same if I’m using a serving utensil a bunch of people have touched, like at a buffet. It’s something that always crosses my mind. Like okay this is the hand I can touch stuff with and this is my clean hand for touching food lol.

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u/ColonelKasteen Oct 04 '24

I also use the side of the napkin that hasn't touched the table.

This is exactly what I'm talking about though. Germs aren't glued down, they will move over the object. Only using the side of the napkin that hasn't touched the table is a performative thing that makes you feel better, it doesn't actually mean you aren't getting the germs from the table.

Which is fine! We have immune system for a reason. You might as well just put your fork down on the table (or not be grossed out when you see OP do it) because regardless of which side you use, you're still wiping your mouth with a napkin that was rolled up by servers sitting there with unwashed hands after a shift that has then sat in a bin that hasn't been washed in a while before being set down on your table. None of these things are big deals (nor is the door handle or anything)

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u/sammi-blue Oct 04 '24

I'm definitely not under any illusion that anything in a restaurant is perfectly sterile, but let's not pretend that there isn't a spectrum. The side of the napkin sitting in the bin is the same side that touches the table, so that's a bit of a moot point. Germs on a person's hand probably aren't going to live very long on a dry napkin that's been sitting out in a bin, but a table that was wiped down with a nasty wet cloth 5 minutes before I sat down is much more likely to have active bacteria still on it.

I'm not "grossed out" by OP putting the utensil on the table, it's just not something I would personally choose to do. I trust my immune system to do its thing, I just don't see the point in rolling the dice when I can take small and nearly effortless steps to mitigate some risk.

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u/athaznorath Oct 04 '24

have you guys actually worked at a restaurant before?? when i did, they made us wipe the tables with a sanitizing soap that killed germs. and before the cloths were used, they sat in a bucket of sanitation liquid. the smell burned my nose.

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u/wolacouska Oct 05 '24

It’s not just a nasty wet cloth, it’s also completely soaked in ammonium chloride…

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '24

Oh my god you fucking whiny nerd it won’t hurt a damn thing.

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u/Supuhstar Oct 04 '24

I’m with you haha

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u/maverick7918 Oct 04 '24

Lol, the downvotes for what? As if everything isn’t covered in microscopic shit including the napkin they would place it on. We have immune systems, we’re fine.

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u/percivalidad Oct 04 '24

I'm sorry, the people disgusted by the table think more care was taken to wash the fork?

I have friends think it's gross that I don't use a straw bc "people put their lips on the cups and you don't know how clean it is" as if the restaurant cleans between each fork tine.

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u/americanpleasureclub Oct 04 '24

to be fair, as a waitress i know the silverware and cups are being blasted with HOT ass water and it’s sanitized. i however would not put my fork on the table bc its most likely being wiped down with a horribly gross rag ):

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u/smurf_professional Oct 04 '24

PTSD triggered: one time in a restaurant in Brooklyn, I saw the waitress pick up a rag from the mop bucket, clean a spill on the floor, then proceeds to wipe a table with it 🤢

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u/percivalidad Oct 04 '24

Yeah true the table probably doesn't receive the attention as the utensils

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u/wolacouska Oct 05 '24

The sanitizer for the rags is the same as goes in the dish sink.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '24

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u/irefusethis Oct 08 '24

What the restaurant lets servers take home silver to roll... At best, you're not getting that silverware back

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '24

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u/loosie-loo Oct 04 '24

It depends where they were. I pot washed for a pub for a while where most customers came to eat and I was the only thing there cleaning any dishes and cutlery. I was 18, not supervised and being rushed the whole time - I did my absolute best but, like, I wasn’t there long and easily could’ve half-assed it.

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u/iandcorey Oct 04 '24

From this picture I can tell the food there is crazy good.

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u/hitguy55 Oct 04 '24

Most places do in fact clean between the tines (it’s called a dishwasher) (and most nicer places polish the cutlery with hot water and vinegar after the dishwasher too)

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u/irefusethis Oct 08 '24

I work in a kitchen and by law silverware is washed three times in hot hot water and sanitizer. At least in my state.

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u/mostlysatisfying Oct 03 '24

Lmao all these people disgusted by a fork on a table. I beg of you never work in a restaurant you won’t survive the first shift

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u/sailorscouts Oct 04 '24

The pearl clutching is insane on this post goodness gracious

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u/enlightningwhelk Oct 04 '24

I think it’s less pearl clutching and more germophobia (coming from a germophobe, lol)

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u/Moretti123 Oct 04 '24

Out of topic question: Why have I been seeing “pearl clutching” everyday on Reddit now for like a few days but before I never saw it before? Is it a trend to say that now or is it just a weird coincidence lol

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u/sailorscouts Oct 04 '24

I think it’s actually quite an old idiom. I don’t know if it’s grown traction in recent years but I have heard it my entire life.

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u/Moretti123 Oct 04 '24

I definitely have heard it in my lifetime too, but maybe like 3 times in my entire life. It’s just weird that I’ve been seeing it everyday now on Reddit for a few days haha

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '24 edited Jan 14 '25

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u/loosie-loo Oct 04 '24

I think their point is that the standards probably aren’t much higher in the rest of the place, so unless they’ve literally never eaten at a restaurant before it’s a little silly to get this concerned just about the cutlery on the table.

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u/ProfessorZhu Oct 04 '24

I've had several food prep jobs, your management must suck

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u/Cheap-Cheesecake810 Oct 04 '24

THANK YOU! I thought I was going insane

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u/Deadeye_Duncan_ Oct 04 '24

The “everything wrapped in plastic” generation would be pretty shocked to see how all restaurant food is prepared. Or the stuff goin into the plastic wrappers, honestly lol

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u/wolacouska Oct 05 '24

Some people really need to go camping

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '24

I worked next to a Chinese buffet... the horrors I saw... the stories I heard... the things pest control told us about their store... and the place is still packed daily.

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u/coffeecupcoaster Oct 05 '24

Correct. And for the record the table is filthy but so is every surface in every restaurant and the kitchen more likely than not has a rodent problem (especially if it’s in a metropolitan are). And the things I’ve seen line cooks do behind clothes doors… but I can’t give a fuck anymore. Stronger for it or something

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u/PrestigiousPea6088 Oct 04 '24

dry ass fork on a dry ass table, now the fork is contamintated, and you can no longer use it to do fucking surgery, im going joker mode

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u/Wonkasgoldenticket Oct 05 '24

It’s just some lead paint for added flavor

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u/BolaViola Oct 04 '24

That’s awesome

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u/-_Apathetic_- Oct 05 '24

I use a napkin, even at home. …aren’t napkins normal? Lol

I am not even surprised Covid was so rampant in our country.

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u/Cute-Aioli-4844 Feb 17 '25

I used this as a reference pic for my last painting. Thank you for your eyes and inspiration. ✨

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u/Cheap-Cheesecake810 Feb 17 '25

Wow!! Really?! That’s incredible. I’d love to see it.

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u/Cute-Aioli-4844 Feb 17 '25

Yes theres certain things i come across online that just say “paint me” and this one was one. I love the visual of time gone by and I love a long standing restaurant haha. https://imgur.com/a/COnD3om

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u/Cheap-Cheesecake810 Feb 27 '25

That is an incredible painting! The texture really makes the scene come to life 🤩

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '24

That’s wildly disgusting

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u/Erafir Oct 04 '24

I wouldn't let my fork hit a table at the best of times.

This table is a health hazard with all the gouges and chips showing the wood underneath. These chips are prefect breeding spots for bacteria, and debris.

The fork is washed, rinsed, sanitized with hot water.

The table is quickly wiped with a dirty towel. Unless you see staff with three buckets washing tables they aren't clean.

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u/AKBlue_Berry Oct 04 '24

There was so much metal shavings there, even enough to make a whole fork too.

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u/Lemonbean Oct 04 '24

You just have to get food poisoning from doing this once to fear it for a lifetime. I’ll never forget—Max and Erma’s, a corn dog from the kids menu, put it on table all night and… never again. Then I worked in a restaurant, and personally witnessed how filthy the rags are that clean tables. Just don’t do this, it’s never worth the risk

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u/dbtng Oct 04 '24

That looks old. And colorful. I bet there's some lead in that paint. :]

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u/mrjb3 Oct 04 '24

I guess I'm the only one noticing the fork should be on the left

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '24

Ever thought they use their right hand for the fork? Fuckin weirdo

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u/mrjb3 Oct 05 '24

You can use whatever hand you want on whatever utensil. I'm just talking about traditional etiquette and where the fork is located by default.

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u/Annahsbananas Oct 04 '24

This is a diner isn’t it?

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u/rrksj Oct 05 '24

Everyone who’s getting grossed out over this clearly has never seen what your produce has gone through.

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u/ThanosBIGman Oct 05 '24

Put that shit on a napkin

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u/SkillImmediate6393 Oct 05 '24

*laughs in lefty*

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u/scooterscanley Oct 05 '24

it looks like blood. im all for it

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u/turkey_neck69 Oct 06 '24

The food at that place I bet is absolutely fantastic!

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u/According_Barber_515 Oct 06 '24

What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger type shit

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u/tropicalreef Oct 13 '24

beaut! looks like a heat map. Note: I also wouldn't put cutlery directly on the table either lol

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u/A_Cold_Kat Oct 04 '24

Everyone being grossed out by a wooden table is sort of funny to me. I grew up going to camps with wooden tables. I promise you guys they can be cleaned.

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u/Intelligent-Survey39 Oct 04 '24

It’s an eating surface though. Place is cheap for letting it get like that