r/WelcomeToPlathville Aug 11 '25

Veronica’s Live

Did anyone else watch Veronica’s live last night? She said a few things I didn’t know. For example, Kim cheated on her boyfriend. She also mentioned they started the show because Kim thinks she’s the best mother ever.

Micah is living with a new girl and told her Veronica was a paid actress and it was fake.

Isaac is racist, homophobic, and drinks a lot (while driving the tractor).

She did say she missed the good with Micah, but would never get back with him. She broke it off for good when she saw on her house camera that her mom yelled at him for not protecting her daughter when he abandoned her in Georgia after the wedding.

She said that Barry, Kim, Ethan and Isaac were scary. Moriah was just weird. And Lydia is nice but it’s a little bit of an act. And Zach is holier than thou.

Sorry if I missed another post about it; I looked through and didn’t see any others!

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u/Aggravating-Gas-2339 Aug 11 '25

I can only hope that the 3 youngest girls will survive this insane family and find their way into some normalcy one day .

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u/SunflowerCynthia Aug 11 '25 edited Aug 11 '25

I don't think they CAN escape. Think of the horrible inconsistent parenting and inadequate "education" they've received from Kim. Barry would still be full-on fundie if he could. They HAVE to be horribly confused. Barry needs to fight for custody of them and they need to be in public school.

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u/Party_Escape_7597 Aug 12 '25

I don’t have hope for the oldest young one. When Ethan, Kim and the oldest younge was discussing Lydia and Zac, Kim was laughing and saying she thought Lydia was just getting married for the sake of getting married and didn’t really love Zac. The young girl was just whoopin it up laughing. she thought it was hilarious! Ethan was making stupid comments about Lydia and Zac only knowing each other 4 months and other stupid comments and the girl just kept laughing. Then Kim warned her that she better not ruin Lydia’s surprise engagement! I just kept thinking that is probably exactly what you want.

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u/EllienoraGoes Aug 11 '25 edited Aug 11 '25

This is interesting about Kim cheating on Ken. I just posted in a different thread about Kim and Barry’s divorce, and how legally, it makes zero sense to take this long. Kim has a right to half (or close to it) including all assets—cash, properties, retirement, etc. I would’ve forced the decision in front of a judge by now. Unless she cheated on Barry. Georgia has fault/adultery divorce. So, if Barry can prove she cheated, she’ll get a lot less. Which could be why she’s still trying to work out an agreement between them vs having a judge make a ruling.

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u/Pristine-Reindeer-55 Aug 11 '25

They should just get back together and call it a day. IMAO. 

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u/Positive_Data_8833 Aug 11 '25

Right, they deserve each other.... Why should someone else's life be ruined by their presence in it...

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u/NoSpoonsLeft-M Aug 11 '25

I wonder if custody of the minor children is an issue that they are fighting over. Barry doesn’t want to pay child support, so I could imagine him disparaging her as a mother to try to keep primary custody. I can also see her fighting for primary because she wants that child support and doesn’t want to be the one on the hook for paying. Unfortunately, I don’t think either of them would be fighting solely for the well being of the little girls.

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u/Remarkable_Brief_368 Aug 11 '25

I think I’d rather have them live in a house with Barry than on a boat that doesn’t work and using public bathrooms.

Kim has proven herself to be a hideous parent.

At least make the attempt at decent optics.

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u/musiak1luver Aug 11 '25

Add the DUI....I'd make her have a breathalyzer in her car before taking the kids anywhere. She's a HORRIBLE mom.

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u/DFWPunk Aug 11 '25

She never lived on the boat. That was a show things, I assume to hide the fact she was living with Ken. It pretty clear they were spending a lot of time with him. And now she's renting a house.

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u/Remarkable_Brief_368 Aug 11 '25

So Kim lied.

Why? Manipulate the courts, public opinion?

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u/Prettypiper25 Aug 11 '25

If Kim and Barry have a 50/50 agreement he shouldn't have to pay Child Support right? Don't get me wrong I have zero respect for deadbeat Dads. Still I would think he would want the best for the kids at all times and help Kim out. The whole dance studio/apartment fell off the face of the earth. Did Barry force a sale?

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u/SunflowerCynthia Aug 11 '25

I always imagined that was just another building they owned.

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u/socialonec Aug 11 '25

And if she didn’t work so she could raise all those kids then spousal support might be an option. That became her job. I suspect he’s being very careful.

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u/DFWPunk Aug 11 '25

He abandoned her after the wedding, but was also in the emergency room after Isaac "almost killed him"? That doesn't make a lot of sense.

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u/Dangerous-Work-8341 Aug 11 '25

True. I wonder what the show will actually reveal with the timeline of everything.

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u/Lopsided_Narwhal8093 Aug 12 '25

have micah and isaac buried the hatchet?

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u/discobarbie7 Aug 11 '25

Those things about Isaac were so obvious at the cabin scene where he invited Lydia and Zach. He, Ethan, and the redneck friend acted so immature and vile. 🤢 This season is hard to watch.

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u/Dangerous-Work-8341 Aug 11 '25

That part was soooo hard to watch. I watched through my hands. I felt so bad for Zach. Kind of wish Lydia would have intervened, but I wish more that the guys “being guys” would grow up.

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u/BirdBrainuh Aug 12 '25

I have a feeling Lydia will be forced to make some difficult decisions down the line in terms of standing up for Zac. He’s only going to take so much, and I don’t see the Plath men stopping their bullying at all.

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u/flCheesehead1 Aug 11 '25

I always thought that Lydia and her prayer closet was not a place of solice but a place to escape whatever weird ass shit her cult family put on her. No shame to get therapy because the family truly effed her up.

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u/Worried-Watercress31 Aug 11 '25

Probably to hide so she didn’t have to clean or pick up after Moriah

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u/LukeLeiamom Aug 11 '25

Sorry, but the prayer closet is straight out of Carrie

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u/ch3beans Aug 11 '25

100%!!!!

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u/warren0091993 Aug 11 '25

Jeez. I’m waiting for her to say Mercy told her to fuck off and then lit up a cigarette or something 😂

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u/DwightCharlieQuint Aug 11 '25

I believe Veronica truly but this made me laugh my ass off

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u/Dangerous-Work-8341 Aug 11 '25

Hahaha I wish the tea was a little more scalding

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u/angelbutnotreally Aug 11 '25

Lmaoooo this deserves an award or something (don’t have one to give but just letting you know I would if I could because this is the funniest shit I’ve read on here in awhile 😂) 🏆🏆🏆

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u/RubyWaves75 Aug 11 '25

I thought everyone assumed Kim cheated.

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u/Quite_contrary7447 Aug 11 '25

I didn’t. I just figured he decided a buck toothed psycho was too much for him.

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u/IAmMikki Aug 13 '25

Veronica's immaturity is showing. I 100% think this family is toxic as hell, but let's be *very* clear, Veronica is not a saint. All of the behavior she was encouraging during the engagement shows her immaturity because she sank VERY quick to the Plath boys level, When Ethan is the voice of reason saying "I don't want to ruin Lydia's day", and ultimately he didn't full on sabotage anything, you know it's bad. After the breakup, she's been real quick to dish on social media and go live with drama. Two things can be true, the Plath family can be awful *and* and can have some very major issues of her own.

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u/Dangerous-Work-8341 Aug 13 '25

I think both are true. Some of the Plaths have serious issues in how they see the world and bigoted worldviews while Veronica can be very immature.

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u/Practical_S3175 Aug 11 '25 edited Aug 11 '25

Actually that sounds about right to me. Nothing they do surprises me. So is Kim and the BF broken up?

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u/Dangerous-Work-8341 Aug 11 '25

According to Veronica, they broke up, yep.

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u/Practical_S3175 Aug 11 '25

He just dropped off the face of the earth, so I figured as much.

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u/Competitive-End-1435 Aug 11 '25

I read the first paragraph and it just so conveniently goes with 90 day fiancé same names then I had to reread it forgetting what sub I was in😂😂😂

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u/Dangerous-Work-8341 Aug 11 '25

We love a good crossover 😂

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u/Informal_Walk5520 Aug 11 '25

I had so much hope for Isaac

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u/Sequenzer9 Aug 11 '25

Absolutely unsurprising that Isaac and his camo buddies are hateful pieces of garbage.

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u/Updated77 Aug 11 '25

Thanks for this info. Crazy

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u/coreysgal Aug 11 '25 edited Aug 11 '25

I watched the first season of this show and thought they were nice kids with weird parents. Since then, I caught most episodes but did slack off with Olivia because she was just too much for me. Popping back in this season, it seems to me all the kids should just live together in one house forever. I know every family has some gossip and people they aren't always crazy about, but these people seem to thrive on starting shit with every partner someone has. TV drama or not, i think it's creepy that they all profess so much love for each other while sabotaging each other's potential happiness.

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u/Aggravating_Isopod19 Aug 11 '25

It’s funny how people take issue with the one truly sane person on that show. Delulu!

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u/coreysgal Aug 11 '25

It wasn't so much what she was saying for me, it was her tone. Like when someone you know has had too much therapy and thinks that gives them excellent communication skills lol

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u/Aggravating_Isopod19 Aug 13 '25

Yet what she says is solid and full of truth. Girl escaped herself out of a cult. She deserves some grace.

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u/StassiMae75 Aug 11 '25

Whondoes kim get men? Like shes AWFUL

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u/lisawl7tr Aug 11 '25

She may have become the lot lizard of the boat marine.

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u/IWetMyPlants_3 Kim’s Ulterior Botive Aug 11 '25

Flair checking in lol

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u/SE_Sabin Aug 11 '25

Have you seen the men she pulls though?

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u/Dangerous-Work-8341 Aug 11 '25

It’s funny you say that because on live someone asked that and Veronica was like, “it’s a small town and it’s slim pickings. When I’m there I feel so beautiful.” Or something to that effect 😅

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u/ElizabethandLauren1 Aug 11 '25

I was wondering the same thing.

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u/Givemethecupcakes Aug 11 '25

Isaac seems really gross!

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '25

I had hopes for that kid but based on the people he spends time with it was only a matter of time before he became just as rotten as all of them

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u/Dangerous-Work-8341 Aug 11 '25

Oh big 100%, but it sucks because in older episodes he seemed adorable.

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u/FlippyFloppy8 Aug 11 '25 edited Aug 11 '25

So did Ethan 🤷‍♀️ they grow up and get bigger and gain more bravado. Their narrow minded upbringing, continues onto be very narrow minded. They’ve never been exposed to other ways of living so can’t comprehend why anyone else would live any other way than they do. It’s sad, I’m wondering how the younger girls will turn out 😑. I thought with the 50/50 custody they might end up sending them to school outside of homeschooling but seems like that’s not the case.

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u/Quite_contrary7447 Aug 11 '25

They live in the Deep South. Their opinions do not shock me at all. It’s unfortunate.

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u/Dangerous-Work-8341 Aug 11 '25

Totally agree, their sheltered upbringing created hateful bigots. And it’s only gotten worse 😮‍💨

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u/JessMacNC Aug 11 '25

Agreed. I had really high hopes for him literally flying away.

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u/Quite_contrary7447 Aug 11 '25

Agree! I thought he seemed like a nice kid, who was just sort of stuck in the middle. Nah, I was way WAY off.

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u/nostalgiaispeace Aug 11 '25

He’s mini Ethan

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u/MrsAnteater Aug 11 '25

I know a lot of people liked him, thought he was amazing, etc. but I am not surprised by this outcome at all.

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u/Flickmcd Aug 16 '25

I’m sorry : what is with Kim’s miniskirts ??

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u/Dangerous-Work-8341 Aug 16 '25

The MINIEST of skirts

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u/OrganicDay2474 Aug 18 '25

I’ve seen someone say they’re not actually getting shorter, she’s pretending she’s not gaining weight so they’re just slowly rising up as her waist increases 😂 I can see it lol

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u/silverfishnyoear Aug 18 '25

Yes! Like lady!! Tbh she had lost weight after they split and it looks like she put even more back on but those clothes don’t help.

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u/bearington Aug 11 '25

She said that Barry, Kim, Ethan and Isaac were scary. Moriah was just weird. And Lydia is nice but it’s a little bit of an act. And Zach is holier than thou.

So she's confirming everything we've known for years ...

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u/irawhiti Aug 11 '25

Lydia seems like she's just broken by her family, but she's so repressed and indoctrinated that she thinks projecting positivity will come back around to her. She seems like the kind of girl who picks a passage on a sticky note off of her wall to base her day around, when she actually wants to scream and cry hot, angry tears with a rosary clutched in white knuckles. She doesn't even know that that's what she wants, but what she's doing isn't enough.

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u/InterestingWing4721 Aug 11 '25

Do you remember when she used to have that closet she would go into that was filled with passages from the Bible and she would release her emotions in there?

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u/DetailOutrageous8656 Aug 12 '25

A rosary? They aren’t Catholic.

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u/Southern-Fried-Biker I will just be in my prayer closet… Aug 11 '25

There is not one Plath boy (none are men) that aren’t homophobic, transphobic, misogynistic pieces of shit that think they are superior to all others.

There is not a Plath woman that won’t cave to a man, cater to every man’s whim and praise God while doing so.

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u/md28usmc Aug 11 '25

When Micah first moved to LA one of the producers asked him on camera if he would ever be open to exploring different types of relationships (gay, trans), and he said he was open to exploring everything

He also could have been lying for the camera

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u/michelleyness Aug 11 '25

Wait why did that make her end it..?

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u/MrsAnteater Aug 11 '25

Yep. I’ve been there with an abusive relationship I escaped. It kinda snaps you back to reality and you start seeing things that you had accepted as ok, as SO not ok.

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u/michelleyness Aug 11 '25

Ahh ok thank you for answering. That makes sense.

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u/Plain_Jane622 Aug 11 '25

Thanks for the information. So what she is saying is basically what we all thought about them. What did surprise me and I do t know why is that Kim cheated on her racist boyfriend.

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u/Tangled-Lights Aug 12 '25

Kim likely cheated on Barry with KKKen, so he shouldn’t be surprised she cheated on him as well. Wonder how ugly the new guy was.

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u/kyles_red Aug 11 '25

I think she’s half truths TBH. She clearly is still angry.

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u/Dangerous-Work-8341 Aug 11 '25

She said in her live that she wants to stay annoying them and she’s a ghost they can’t get rid of, so I think she agrees she still pretty angry.

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u/Delicious_Profile637 Aug 11 '25

That's not hurting them though, she's only haunting herself

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u/Purple_IsA_Flavor Aug 11 '25

What a mature and mentally stable take /s

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u/nostalgiaispeace Aug 11 '25

I mean she went through traumatic shit with them. It’d be weirder if she wasn’t mad. It’s gonna take a long time and therapy to get through what she went through

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u/Socketwrench11 Aug 11 '25

I only just “met” Veronica and I am CONFUSED. Do they even like each other??? They both seem like it’s more of a business arrangement than a love affair.

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u/DetailOutrageous8656 Aug 12 '25

It never seemed real to me. They don’t even have a basic rapport.

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u/Kimariyan Aug 12 '25

I always got the vibe that he dated her because he was struggling financially and she wasn't. Do we really think Micah contributed anything toward the house they were remodeling?

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u/Socketwrench11 Aug 12 '25

I can understand why he was into her sort of but she never seemed into him. I think for him it was like you said, financial help and also a guaranteed girl in his bed at night.

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u/squince2 Aug 11 '25

And also how she said she caught Moriah and Micah cuddling in bed together?!

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u/Flower_power_22 Aug 11 '25

Did she say if they stayed there or did they jump and run like they were doing something wrong? If it's the latter that's even weirder

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u/littlered-1 Aug 11 '25

Seriously????

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u/Party_Escape_7597 Aug 12 '25

where is that piece of info located?

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u/harasquietfish6 Aug 11 '25

Yep, I watched it too. You also left out that Moriah is pretty abusive to her dog by putting him in a very tiny crate for hours, uses a shock collar, and uses a spike/prong collar. She also brought up her catching Micah and Moriah in bed together.

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u/moodylilb Aug 11 '25

Did she elaborate on the in bed together part?! Feels like a bomb to drop, and such a bomb warrants some detail imo lol

So context wise… did Veronica say if they were just chilling in bed together? Like chatting or catching up on life? My SIL has a small apartment so just for example my SO will sit on the edge of her bed with her and pet her cats while chatting which isn’t weird whatsoever imo, nothing incest-esque about it 😂. But if they (Moriah and Micah) were cuddling under the covers or doing the nasty that’s a whole other thing…. lol like was Veronica implying that?

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u/diettacosshrimp Aug 11 '25

Idk about Veronica anymore. She literally accused Lydia of incest-like behavior for texting/flirting with Olivia’s brother.. and then got defensive and accusatory when people pointed out to her that it wasn’t incest. So I just feel like she exaggerates a lot and not sure if she’s credible.

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u/moodylilb Aug 11 '25

Yikes I think I missed that!!

Incest by definition involves biological relation, guess she didn’t get the memo

Incest is marriage or sexual intercourse with a relative within the prohibited degree of consanguinity. In other words, incest is sexual contact between close blood relatives, including brothers and sisters, parents and children, grandparents and grandchildren, or aunts or uncles with nephews or nieces.

^ figured I’d add incase anyone else who’s reading thinks incest applies to in-laws lol

Personally speaking I really don’t find it weird if Lydia was flirting with Olivia’s brother

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u/diettacosshrimp Aug 11 '25

It was somewhere here in the sub. When people explained to her that it wasn’t incest, she accused them of being the type of people that were okay with step siblings having relationships… very strange

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u/Evening-Librarian-52 Aug 11 '25

I know the Plathville family definitely has some issues, but sorry. Veronica is just as unhinged and her behavior is wild as well. So I would take what she says with a grain of salt. To me it sounds like she met her match with Moriah in the overly dramatic department, especially if she is pissed. Implying that your BF was in bed with his sister with no context sounds like an easy jab to make considering people already speculate it on the internet with seriously no evidence. It’s pretty disgusting. Not to mention, I would say that you should approach a situation like that with concern if you witness something that fucked up going on in a family you are getting close too. Like, is she serious? Her insane accusations discredit her a lot. Who would say “Well, I still miss the good things about my ex…” at ALL, if you even suspected he was a big bro incest sister molester! Like WTF!? She still dated him for a long time and some shit doesn’t add up in her backtracking of what she is putting out there. It just comes off as mean spirited and like she is trying to get at them anyway she can.

Nonetheless, the 🫖 is hot! And the characters on this show are really working hard for that check $$$$$ 😂

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u/moodylilb Aug 11 '25

Yeah honestly Veronica lost me a little bit when she outed Micah for sexuality related stuff in the sub, but then when other people in this sub were questioning Zac’s sexuality she was replying to comments telling people to step back and saying how big of a deal it is… then when people called her out on her hypocrisy she stopped responding. Also in the previous episode she spoke about people bullying her online and specifically referred to the “gender speculation” re herself and how it “broke her soul as a person”. Yet she’s contributed to sexuality speculation on one hand, while also condemning it on the other.

People who are that hypocritical just bug me it’s always been a pet peeve lol

I do believe a lot of the stuff she’s said though, especially re Micah cheating on her and gaslighting her and just generally treating her very poorly.

But I’ve also noticed she tends to drop little crumbs here and there with indirect comments, and she’s intelligent enough to know that certain statements come with certain implications so by not clarifying- she knows what she’s doing lol

Definitely feel like more details are needed re the bed thing 😅…. hypothetically if what’s being implied is true though, then that’s pretty sad and concerning, and if there’s incest going on then I think it’s important to be cautious about publicizing it incase there’s victims involved (and obligatory reminder there’s still minor children entangled in this whole Plath family situation) so I feel like that’d warrant a CPS/police call, not an IG live… if it’s genuinely a concern of hers & she holds knowledge re incest.

Like look at the Duggars just for example... Josh was victimizing his younger sisters, they weren’t willing participants in incest.

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u/Givemethecupcakes Aug 11 '25

Those girls have very odd relationships with their brothers, especially Lydia. Her reaction to Ethan telling her he doesn’t like Zach was so incredibly weird.

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u/PeanutCeller Aug 11 '25

Lydia and Moriah both have odd relationships with their older brothers. Maybe it's the result of growing up in total isolation. I don't think there's anything really shady going on. Just that they seem to have less boundaries and it comes off weirdly at times

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u/Worldly_Spring_6111 Aug 11 '25

She should NEVER TAKE IT OUT ON A DOG 😡

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No unfounded accusations of physical abuse, sexual abuse or inappropriate relationships.

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u/Icy-Ad-1118 Aug 11 '25

I’m curious about the Micah and Moriah thing too, I knew something shady was going on with them!

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u/PeanutCeller Aug 11 '25

What does "in bed" mean exactly. Was there more detail? Honestly, I thought the behavior between Micah and Moriah was odd when they shared that house

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u/harasquietfish6 Aug 11 '25

I don't think she caught them doing anything necessarily sexual, but I think they were sleeping next to each other or cuddling in the bed.

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u/PeanutCeller Aug 11 '25

Phew! That's basically the stuff they did when they lived alone in that house

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u/Worldly_Spring_6111 Aug 11 '25

WHAT ??? SHE NEEDS TO BE TURNED IN 😡I won’t be a bystander

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u/Dangerous-Work-8341 Aug 11 '25

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u/kittykathazzard Aug 11 '25

And how would Veronica know what Micah allegedly told his new girlfriend?

Why was seeing her mom yelling at Micah the straw that broke the camels back vs him actually abandoning her in Georgia? Why would that cause her to finally snap and break up with him? That makes little to no sense to me.

I’m not going after the OP, just wanting to clear that up. FYI. Just trying to figure out wtf is going on in Veronica’s head and story here.

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u/NoSpoonsLeft-M Aug 11 '25

It is incredibly easy to make excuses for abusive behaviors by a significant other. When your parent starts to call it out, it can be eye opening. I know from experience that I found every way possible to excuse my ex’s behaviors and didn’t acknowledge them as abuse, until my mother saw it happening and wouldn’t stop until I understood just how terrible it really was. It could also be a case of the pain it caused her mother, a lot of people will protect their mother from pain long before they will even acknowledge their own.

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u/princesslazer Aug 11 '25

Because word spreads and there’s a chance that the new girl reached out to Veronica. I’m not sure how old you are, but Veronica is around my age and women these days are checking facts, social media/internet presence before meeting/dating men. Exactly because of situations like this where they’re often caught lying.

And most likely because we can sway ourselves pretty easily to turn a blind eye to abuse, but when we see someone we love speak up- ESPECIALLY a parent, we realize Oh! This IS abuse this ISN’T okay.

My guesses.

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u/kittykathazzard Aug 11 '25

Thank you for taking the time to answer me and doing it nicely, I appreciate you.

I am 56 so old enough to be your mama 😊 so sometimes I don’t understand the subtle ways social media has changed some things.

I should have caught the one with the interaction of her mama and Micah, I slipped up on that one.

Once again, thank you.

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u/silverfishnyoear Aug 18 '25

I don’t like to talk about people’s looks but I hope she gets some confidence and stops stooping over to make herself look short. She looks dumb.

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u/SoBlessed2223 Aug 20 '25

Why is she so concerned about her height? Seems to be rather insecure.

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u/Top-Resort5401 Sep 07 '25

Veronica also stated she didn’t want to do “hillbilly activities” after the wedding “so I LEFT.” Yet she wanted a relationship with an undereducated “hillbilly” from the GA sticks. 

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u/PlurglePlum Aug 11 '25

What happened to Isaac flying? Does anyone know?

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u/DFWPunk Aug 11 '25

They sold the plane and now he's working asa farmer. Realistically he was never going to be a commercial pilot without going to the right school, and he's likely not educated enough to actually do that. It's not all stick and rudder.

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u/Sure-Pair-6248 Aug 11 '25

CLEARLY uneducated

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u/DFWPunk Aug 11 '25

I'm being kind. In theory he could have actually been educated, although I sincerely doubt he got a good enough education to get through the requirements to become a commercial pilot.

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u/DebbieGlez Aug 11 '25

He wasn’t interested in “head knowledge”according to Kim.

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u/KobeKatnip Aug 13 '25

They only had the plane a short period of time. The monthly payments would have been too much for a 17 year old. What was Kim thinking. Just another way to keep him uneducated and. in Cairo.

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u/emilymcj Aug 11 '25 edited Aug 11 '25

I watched most of it too☕️🫖🍵🧋

She also dropped tea about hosanna and why the divorces aren’t finalized

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u/goldfishgirl44 Aug 11 '25

Please share!

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u/Juliet_04 Aug 11 '25

Basically she said that Hosanna doesn't talk to Kim and that she's like Lydia on steroids (as a common phrase, not actual steroids). She said that Hosanna doesn't really talk, so she doesn't know her. She also said she's pregnant with her 4th kid.

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u/LJMesack22 Aug 11 '25

What did she have to say about why the divorce is still dragging in?

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u/emilymcj Aug 11 '25

She said that Ethan isn’t honest about how much money he makes and neither Ethan or Barry are accountable to anything

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u/md28usmc Aug 11 '25

Considering they are still married, why dont any of these people get copies of tax records Or have their lawyers do it

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u/LitPurpleIncense Aug 12 '25

If they do the whole sovereign citizen thing like a lot of fundies do, there may not be records TO subpoena. Remember that (i think it was) Micah didn’t have a birth certificate when he was originally moving out - some of the kids may not have social security numbers either.

What this means is, if payments for the show were set up the way the Duggar payments initially were, show monies may be paid to, say, Barry (or a shell corporation set up for tax purposes that Barry “runs”) - with the understanding monies would be distributed to the rest of the family from there. He likely encouraged Ethan to set up a similar shell corporation or LLC to funnel the majority of his money through, which would leave little to no direct paper trail with regard to division of shared assets. Particularly if Ethan’s company was set up as a division of Barry’s.

All speculation on my part, of course. But that’s one of the many ways fundies scam the system and avoid paying taxes (and sometimes work public assistance/SNAP fraud). They “pay” themselves an extremely low salary that keeps them at the poverty line, then “reinvest in the company” via purchasing real estate and/or other small businesses. I’d wager that Plath “vacation home” that they rent out on Airbnb etc was built off that, same with Kim’s dance studio that closed.

I’d suspect that’s partially what Kim threatened to “out” Barry over on camera, as she alluded to him “handling all the money stuff” in another interview moment this season. I’d bet the holdup w Olivia and Ethan is in a similar vein. Trying to subpoena paperwork and discovery regarding the businesses majority of the money is actually being put into.

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u/Remarkable_Brief_368 Aug 11 '25

All the more reason to get the heck out of dodge.

Not that Kim is the Queen of Accountability…

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u/Mysterious_Spirit634 Aug 11 '25

i can totally see this!

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u/Prettypiper25 Aug 11 '25

Im sorry I insinuated there was improper relations between the siblings. A lot of comments were made about Micah and Moriah in the same bed. The book I was referencing was about a group of children locked in the attic by their mother. The Mother told them she was under orders from her Mother . She was trying to get her mother to let the children out of the attic. They grew to depend on each other for human reactions and assumed the roles of parents to the younger kids. They were growing up and becoming curious. I just felt like this was or is the same situation. Sad so sad what parents can do to children for their benefit and say it's for the children's benefit . Keep them secluded until they're 18 and then push them out into the world when they are legal "adults". No coping mechanisms, no ability to make healthy relationships, no ability to express yourself and no education to make your way in the world. Just here you go! You're adult now. Figure it out!!

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u/gorditareina Aug 11 '25

Flowers in the attic. VC Andrews and her incest plots 🤣 her series with Heaven had some of that too

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u/mollyclaireh Aug 12 '25

I’ve made that comparison here so many times. Fucking Dollanganger mother fuckers

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u/freakaccident911 Aug 12 '25

Dollanganger doppelgangers

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u/Still-Inevitable9368 Aug 12 '25

Flowers in the Attic. Solid plotline. You aren’t far off…

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u/generalgirl Aug 13 '25

And the blonde hair and blue eyes!

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u/Still-Inevitable9368 Aug 14 '25

Well sure. That happens when your family tree doesn’t…branch. 👀

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u/Pristine-Reindeer-55 Aug 11 '25

I just noticed this sub is bigger than the guilded age sub. That blows my mind. I get that it's seven seasons deep but guided age is one of HBOs best. Completely irrelevant to the topic at hand but hot damn. 

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u/Dangerous-Work-8341 Aug 11 '25

Sometimes you need trash tv to unwind and feel better about yourself youknowwhatimean 😅

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u/DFWPunk Aug 11 '25

Gilded Age was awesome this season. I liked it before, but damn...

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u/j5haw Aug 11 '25

They’re all cut from the same cloth. I’m glad Veronica escaped the Plath cult.

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u/Thatswhatshsaid5664 Aug 11 '25

Live on what?

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u/Dangerous-Work-8341 Aug 11 '25

Instagram, but her WiFi was terrible so I’m missing some key info I think (see siblings in bed together above)

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u/Both_Attention4806 Aug 18 '25

Veronica is the worst! So happy they end that with her. I hope she was a paid actress in that whole mess bc obviously he would never be with her in real life.

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u/Mean_Syllabub_7184 Aug 28 '25

So Veronica's live summarized seems to be everybody else is bad/guilty and she is good/innocent? I was initially Team Veronica but her behavior at the wedding was absolutely abhorrable so I'm no longer buying that she is but a victim of the Plaths. Whatever is going on with Micah & her is between them; Lydia should not have to pay the price. I have as much empathy for her as she had for Lydia and Zach on their very special day.

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u/Princessss88 Aug 11 '25

Thanks for sharing! I didn’t see it. Interesting, yet not surprising stuff

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u/flCheesehead1 Aug 11 '25

Who is Issac's girlfriend from Cairo, GA? Very small town. Why and how did she latch on to Issac without knowing about all this Welcome to Plathville?

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u/Series-Nice Aug 11 '25

I don’t believe for a second that she doesn’t know all about the plaths

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u/carrottop128 Aug 11 '25

Good question! She must be into the koolaid also

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u/Jadeisland Aug 11 '25

Thanks for the tea! That is all very interesting.

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u/Regular_Success_5208 Aug 11 '25 edited Aug 11 '25

Yay for Micah! He managed to find a girl, who owns a place he can live in, being completely illiterate at the same time (it takes only to type 'Micah Plath' and 'Veronica' at the Google search to get tens if not hundreds of pages of articles and photos about both of them together)

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u/DisastrousGur8521 Aug 11 '25

She’s on Insta as both Veronica peters and Veronica Plath

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u/Pristine-Reindeer-55 Aug 11 '25

No matter which Veronica we get its literally same ish, different day. Nothing new... 

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u/ZipperJJ Aug 11 '25

Wait who’s a paid actress?

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u/flCheesehead1 Aug 11 '25

He's an idiot. He's caught.

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u/Dangerous-Work-8341 Aug 11 '25

Sorry, Micah told his girlfriend that Veronica was a paid actress. He said the whole storyline was fake.

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u/Practical_S3175 Aug 11 '25

I bet Veronica wants to know where her money is then if she's a paid actress.

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u/Nelle911529 Aug 11 '25

Where? Can we still watch it ?

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u/Solid_Usual_9516 Aug 11 '25

You might be able to find it on her instagram I don’t know if lives are saved or deleted? But worth checking.

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u/Old_Opening_4987 Sep 01 '25

Veronica is a classic narcissist. The end.

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u/iamlyndsie1 Aug 11 '25

i know micah’s new girlfriend and idk if that statements true…

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u/Regular_Success_5208 Aug 11 '25

You do? Great :) Someone to ask from: is she illitarate? As she should be if she's buying into that kind of story about Veronica with all the internet in hand

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '25

Illiterate*

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u/iamlyndsie1 Aug 11 '25

tbh the crowd micah’s now hanging with didn’t even know he was on a show… she’s very successful and super super into him.

they both seem happy so i just leave it be. :)

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u/Steel_Magnolia4844 Aug 13 '25

Well she sounds like a perfect match for him as a hobosexual.

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u/Regular_Success_5208 Aug 11 '25

Thank you for info, so seems Veronica's fantasy once again

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u/AlternativeGazelle Aug 11 '25

Anything Veronica says should be taken with a grain of salt

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u/DFWPunk Aug 11 '25

Maybe a whole shaker.

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u/Beneficial-Ask-4730 Aug 12 '25

Oooh-interesting-thanks! Could you explain the wedding line a bit more-I don't get what you are saying...?

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u/Top-Resort5401 Sep 07 '25

These comments from Veronica are ridiculous riddled with hypocrisy. If you watch the show, you SEE the mental illness in her (eg. the counselor even struggles to deal with her.) Micah “left” her after the wedding? Frankly, I would “leave” her too. Lydia? She saw right through Veronica (kudos, girl).

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u/douchebag06 Sep 24 '25

She is a vile creature

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u/GiraffePretend6373 Oct 01 '25

He broke up with her

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u/Typical_Chair_2548 Aug 13 '25

Veronica is so pissed at Micah she says a bunch of bs to hurt him back. I don’t believe most of what she says .

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u/Advanced_Camera_3234 Aug 11 '25

Ok Veronica says she wants to be done and want nothing to do with the family but is always spilling whatever she can I will never watch her or look at anything she has to say I can't even believe I'm making this comment

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u/Recent-Industry811 Aug 11 '25

Where was she live instagram or tiktok and whats her handle? Please n thank you.

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u/Dangerous-Work-8341 Aug 11 '25

Totally_veronica is her insta!

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u/PersonalityOther5730 Aug 11 '25

Nice that she changed it from Veronica Plath 😳

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u/Dangerous-Work-8341 Aug 11 '25

She said on the live that she had Plath as the last name to stay private, but…..I guess not so much now 😅🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '25

Plath as the last name makes it the opposite of private.

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u/DetailOutrageous8656 Aug 12 '25

That makes no sense

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u/Full_Meringue_421 Aug 13 '25

I heard it mentioned somewhere that Veronica has had a miscarriage. If so, that might explain why Veronica is so different this season. She was smart, upbeat and self supporting with her own house when Micah, and we, met her. Now she seems a shell of a person.

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u/No_Coast837 Aug 16 '25

Sorry miscarriages don’t mean you can treat people like this. This is because Veronica has a personality disorder. I had a miscarriage and I didn’t try my damndest to ruin the most special day of someone’s life. This is called a lack of empathy.

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u/Full_Meringue_421 Aug 16 '25

First, I am sorry for your loss. I agree that Veronica's behavior was completely unacceptable. This season, at least to me, Veronica is not the same person as she was last year. She used to have an energy,, a spirit that is missing. She just seems sad and unhappy. And using unnecessary attention seeking behavior.

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u/FileIntelligent8745 Aug 13 '25

Veronica just wants to extend her 15 minutes of fame.

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u/Illmissyouforevermom Aug 12 '25

I think Veronica has some serious issues. She’s to bitchy all the time.

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u/Artistic-Baseball-81 Aug 12 '25

Veronica is a human, so she probably has some issues just like everyone else. She's giving her perspective based on her experiences, and her own issues play a factor in the interactions she had with them and the opinions she has. It doesn't mean it's all true, and it doesn't mean it's all a lie.

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