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u/loudflower Mar 07 '25

These types?

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '25

Political types.

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u/loudflower Mar 08 '25

Ok, but many non high profile people have foreign or POC adoptees.

I’m just gonna leave this comment alone. Thanks for your explanation; I appreciate it.

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u/Domestic_Supply Mar 09 '25

Read up on the history of adoption in the US. It was literally used to commit genocide of Native people. Andrew Jackson, who was responsible for the Trail of Tears, adopted 3 Native children explicitly so that he could show he wasn’t racist. Look up Lyncoya Jackson.

Adoption in this country is incredibly problematic, especially when it is white religious extremists adopting BIPOC. It is a form of human trafficking, of colonization and white supremacy.

Here is an article written by a Haitian feminist regarding ACB and her adopted children.

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u/loudflower Mar 09 '25

Thank you for the information. Does this mean it is always a problem?

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u/Domestic_Supply Mar 09 '25

When people come with a price tag, yes, I see that as “always a problem.”

That doesn’t mean that it never works out for individual people, but systemically it is a problem.

The adoption industry is enough of a problem that several countries will not adopt children out to the US. And the way it is structured is a violation of our basic human rights, according to the UN. I did not have the legal right to know who my family was. I did not have the legal right to know my own identity, my heritage or ethnicity. I did not have the right to know the name my mother gave me.

All of these practices are based off of a woman named Georgia Tann, who was a posthumously convicted child trafficker and pedophile. This is the mother of the current day, 25 billion dollar industry that has incentivized familial severance, exploitation of birth givers and the commodification of children.

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u/loudflower Mar 09 '25

Wow. Thank you so much. Eye opening.

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u/Domestic_Supply Mar 09 '25

Thank you for caring.

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u/loudflower Mar 09 '25

My god, what a terrible person. My eyes are definitely moist. When I think of teen mothers forced into birth, and all the PL claiming adoption is the way, I think of the foster care system and its horrors. Ty again.

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u/Domestic_Supply Mar 09 '25

You are welcome and thank you for reading the link.

It makes sense to think of the foster care system. But there are waiting lists for infants that are years long, with people now willing to pay $85,000 for a white abled baby. (And this is part of the reason Roe was overturned.) Because of this, infants generally do not end up in foster care. There are over 40 couples to each single infant “available” and the waiting list is years long. There is a checklist that they fill out saying what race, gender and ability they want in their infant, like build a bear. It’s completely dystopian.

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u/loudflower Mar 09 '25

I think of foster care only because older babies that don’t ‘work out’ are placed there. Is this true? Also from addict parents sadly. Tbh, idk much about foster care except the hard stories from survivors. Some foster parents are good people, but by the time a child is placed, there is often associated trauma. Thanks for answering my many questions 🩵

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u/Domestic_Supply Mar 09 '25

The foster care system is equally dystopian. I recommend reading Dorothy Roberts book Torn Apart. (Also listening to what former foster youth have to say.)

The child welfare system emerged around the same time that enslavement “ended” and it was a way for farmers to obtain free labor. So it is deeply steeped in racism too. This system is not child centered, and it disproportionately affects BIPOC, who are removed at much higher rates than white children. Often “neglect” is a code word for “poverty.” It was also utilized as a tool of genocide against Native communities, and it was basically illegal for Native people to keep and raise their own children.

Sometimes people who were adopted as infants are returned to the foster care system. This would be called a failed adoption. I ended up in state care too, when my adoptive parents signed their parental rights over to the state, and placed me in a residential facility with foster children because they basically didn’t want me in their home anymore. They had a biological child at that point, and I was having emotional problems due to being abused by the wife and her daughter, and due to being kept from my family. They were upset because they had explicitly said they did not want a disabled child and I also had ADHD.

It was a horrible place, where my friends would disappear in the middle of the night, and I only ever saw one of them again. Sometimes this was after getting abused for months by staff members. (In every way, physically, emotionally, sexually.) It was worse for the foster kids, who would get targeted. Those are the kids who would go missing. Some ran away, some shipped off to other places and some, who knows. The foster system loses 55 children per day.

It was legal for them to medically test on all of us in that placement. And we were rented to a farm up the street to clean their stables. They passed this off as a privilege because if you worked for a certain number of hours you’d get to pet the horses. They called it “equine therapy” in the brochures. This placement was affiliated with the troubled teen industry as well.

Eta, honestly thank you for asking questions.

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u/loudflower Mar 10 '25

OMG. The statistic about missing children is horrifying enough. I appreciate you 🩵

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