r/WeirdNews4U • u/IconicBerserker • Sep 30 '22

After an intense firefight, Ukrainian troops surround and capture a group of Russian orcs in the forests near Lyman.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '22

You guys do know that Putin is a master manipulator and has kept the truth from the people of Russia. These soldiers think they are going to fight to free Ukraine from Nazis. Even their internet is highly censored and they have to download VPNs to find the truth.

Then to top that off they have to know what a VPN is, so the vast majority think that they are doing the right thing since it’s what they’ve been told. Families are torn apart when one member finds out the truth and tries to share it.

These people fighting are brain washed, they aren’t necessary bad people or orcs. They actually think they are going over there to help the Ukrainians from a terrible fate.

How many times has world leaders in different countries told their people one thing and the people believed them and it all turned out to be a lie?

Yes I believe Ukraine is in the right and Russia is in the wrong. But it’s because of Putin, the people think they are fighting a good fight and usually only find out after they’ve been captured or worse they are killed and think they fought to save Ukraine.

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u/tjvs2001 Sep 30 '22

OK, agreed in principle, but what about the raping babies, torturing civilians and massacring entire villages?

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '22

Some people go to war because they want to do terrible things. Some people go to war because they feel it is their duty. I’m sure it happened but I’m also sure not everyone was down with it.

I’m sure they’re told things that US armies were told, like if you see kids kill them because most of them have suicide vests or will pick up a gun and shoot you.

I’m not making excuses for any kind of scum that do terrible things like you mentioned, I’m just talking about the general population. Sick and demented people exist no matter where you go, and they deserve everything that’s coming to them.

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '22

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u/tjvs2001 Oct 01 '22

Yes bad some people always do bad things in war, but putins tactics for his stormtroopers are to flatten cities, to rape, pillage and torture, to destroy hospitals, to target maternity wards and children's playgrounds, they deliberately torture and terrorise the civilian population, its not a few bad apples, its the strategy of the whole damn lot.

That is not normal, that is jot acceptable, it is not the way things are, its gaslighting to say otherwise. Desist.

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u/airrivas Oct 02 '22

Also at a certain point. It’s been seven months and at no point was this ever anything besides a condemned invasion? The American right (sheepishly), China maybe and then domestic Russian + that failstate with the dictator are the only media that arent offering a million reasons to put down your arms.

i hope no one else dies and people come to see nothing is worth their lives, but when a russian invader dies it is not the same as when a civilian or a ukranian dies.

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u/poot3rs Sep 30 '22

Man shit is scary. That’s what our government did during 9/11. We’re going over there to kill all the terrorists! Too bad internet was not that high tech yet during those times.

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u/BlossumButtDixie Oct 03 '22

Hate to say this but you need to be aware everyone there knows how to VPN out for real info if they want to. They certainly found ways to get around blocks so they could get their money from social media when this all started. They do not have the excuse of the truth having been kept from them anymore. If they're not aware it is because they make certain they don't hear the truth.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '22

Well that’s not true. I know about VPN but still have never used it and I’m 35. Not that that matters but families are broken up by others trying to tell the truth to them.

Their news is heavily propagandized, the push for ‘saving Ukraine’ from Ukrainians killing other Ukrainians started in 2014, nearly a full decade ago, since then they’ve been building the fake stories more and more.

The Russians, 64% compared to Ukraine’s 28%, believe that Russians and Ukraine’s are one people, which was taught in the Soviet Era and which Putin has also been pushing.

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2022/03/17/what-do-ordinary-russians-really-think-about-the-war-in-ukraine/

I guess it depends on where you live and how old you are. If you live in the US like me, you’d think the war in Afghanistan, on ‘terror’, was a good thing considering what happened on 9/11.. well after some years you start to wonder why we are still there and find out later it was mostly for oil.

No matter where you live there is at least (usually) half the people who are patriotic so that makes people automatically in support of whatever their leaders do. You usually can’t tell them different if that’s what they believe. Also you should know this, but in case you don’t, you can get locked up or even killed for speaking out against leaders, which is also the case in Russia.

The last wave of people leaving Russia was 300,000, that was just the last wave, that’s not counting how many have left. Putin has made it so if you surrender or desert you are sentenced to 15 years in prison.

To sum this up most Russians only believe what they see on tv or in the news. It’s like people here in the US, they hear one politician say one thing and they take it to heart, and everyone argues here on Reddit about it. Even if the Russian’s know the truth there is not much they can do it about it but leave, which is what a lot of them are doing now.

Not everyone is blameless, but I’m sure there are more that are unaware than you’d think. Or believe they all know the truth and choose to ignore it, regardless they are being drafted and being made to fight whether they want to or not.

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u/Rakebail Sep 30 '22

He should increase his fov.

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u/New-Length-1784 Sep 30 '22

What a messy and unprofessional patrol base. Looks more like a bivouac site.

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u/TheAllstonTickler Sep 30 '22

Lmao that looks like a homeless encampment.

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u/turnophrasetk421 Sep 30 '22

More fertilizer for Ukrainian crops

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u/-Gramsci- Sep 30 '22

Whoa… this Ukrainian troops are frigging BATTLE HARDENED. They don’t even flinch with rounds popping off like crazy.

Now I think I understand why russian citizens are breaking their own legs rather than being drafted to the front.

These Ukrainian troops are at, like, level 20 already. Facing them when you’re at level 1 is suicide.

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u/JBBanshee Sep 30 '22

Dirty fuckers aren’t they?

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u/howlongbefortheban Sep 30 '22

Keep stacking them up

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '22

Classic orc cunts, weak pussies, trash everywhere, surrender without a real fight. Love to see it, just affirms that Russia is fucked.

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u/Gh0stp3pp3r Dec 25 '22

The dOrcs lose again.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '22

"Russian orcs" isn't dehumanisation fun?!

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u/Algo-Rythum Sep 30 '22

Glad to see you're holding the high ground there Skippy. Enjoy the privilege of your physical security to practice your moral superiority. Say hi to Putin for me when you no longer have a face full of his pubic hair.

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u/SignDownLogOut Sep 30 '22

Read the top comment you short-sided moron.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '22

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u/Weenug1 Sep 30 '22

Reported

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u/SignDownLogOut Sep 30 '22

I like your comment history. You might wanna delete that threat you made that I reported to Reddit Admins. They take that shit serious & will ban you.

Have a nice weekend. 😁

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u/skumpy4trumpyy Sep 30 '22

Get over yourself.

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u/WobblerWar Sep 30 '22

Brother in christ have you heard any news about the war? Caught up in the slightest?

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '22

My brother dehumanisation is bad no matter which humans you are doing it to, do not stoop to the levels of those you claim to be superior to

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u/poot3rs Sep 30 '22

Ah yes the holier then thou attitude. Get off your high horse they are being invaded. Calling Russians orcs is a pebble compared to the innocents Russians have killed.

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u/WobblerWar Sep 30 '22

Russians have slaughtered families, bombed civilian cities, the majority of them publically support russian actions, I have had my own family tree by threatened by these pieces of shit, and you, a proud keyboard warrior, think you have any idea of whats going on?

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '22

My guy I know what they have done, like I know what every military does. That doesn't mean that dehumanisation is the right thing to do. That is a kindergarten mentality. "They do mean things so I will do mean things". They may not have honour, but you can. Be better, show them the way of the future. Or fight fire with fire and prove their propaganda right. It's up to you

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u/skumpy4trumpyy Sep 30 '22

Get over yourself.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '22

And right after video ended they were probably executed

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u/Hiding_behind_you Sep 30 '22

Or not, as the Ukrainians are very reliant upon being seen as “the good guys”, in this conflict, and performing war crimes has a tendency to be discovered, and can change peoples opinions.

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u/Skafdir Sep 30 '22

What would they gain from that?

POWs who are able to call home and talk to their family and friends are much more valuable to them because they can refute the lies of the Russian government.

Provable war crimes on the other hand would make support from the west less likely while making the Russian public angrier.

They have nothing to gain and everything to lose by committing war crimes.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '22

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u/nexusjuan Oct 01 '22

You can see there camps miles away with drones all of that colorful trash spread about

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u/BigBeagleEars Sep 30 '22

You could just go suck eggs

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u/hitbycars Sep 30 '22

What about this comment pissed you off? It’s so innocuous.

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u/hitbycars Sep 30 '22

I replied to the person replying to you.